Obama Approval 37% [W:13]

[zimmer]

Most Americans disapprove of the way Obama is handling his job, the poll suggests, with... 37 percent approving of it.

Poll: GOP Gets The Blame In Shutdown : NPR

Because President Al Sharpton is such a "uniter" and master negotiator. Oh! He doesn't negotiate with representatives of the American people...

Obama waves to America after being asked if he will negotiate on October 9, 2013.

 

[Somerville]

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Because he's such a "uniter" and master negotiator. Oh! He doesn't negotiate with representatives of the American people...

Obama waves to America after being asked if he will negotiate on October 9, 2013.

Nice photoshop job.

It looks like the President, even with a low approval rating, is doing a better job than Congress - from your link

Most Americans disapprove of the way Obama is handling his job, the poll suggests, with 53 percent unhappy with his performance and 37 percent approving of it. Congress is scraping rock bottom, with a ghastly approval rating of 5 percent.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

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Is not Obama a representative of the American people?

He was voted into office just as Cruz was

 

[Somerville]

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and then there are other polls

Polls: Public places more blame for shutdown on GOP - NBC Politics

As the federal government’s shutdown nears its second week, a pair of new polls released Monday suggests the fiscal standoff has begun to weigh on the Republican Party.

No one – not Republicans in Congress, President Barack Obama or his Democratic allies on Capitol Hill – comes away looking particularly great as a result of the shutdown, according to separate polls released Monday from the Pew Research Center and Washington Post/ABC News. But the negative fallout from the shutdown is more sharply pronounced in public opinion toward the GOP.

Thirty-eight percent of Americans said Republicans were to blame for the shutdown, versus 30 percent who blame the Obama administration and 19 percent who blame both, according to the Pew poll, which was conducted in the days since the shutdown came to pass. (For context, a Pew poll before the shutdown found that 39 percent would blame the GOP, 36 percent would blame Obama and 17 percent would blame both if the shutdown were to occur.)

The ABC News/Washington Post poll, meanwhile, found that 70 percent of Americans disapprove of the way congressional Republicans are handling negotiations over the federal budget, while just 24 percent approve.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

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Hey look at that, Obama's rating has only just now dipped to the rating Bush averaged throughout his second term.

Oh well, at least he couldn't possibly do any worse than Congress, right?

 

[joko104]

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Nice photoshop job.

It looks like the President, even with a low approval rating, is doing a better job than Congress - from your link

The difference is people don't vote for or against "Congress" when the vote. Most people despise "Congress" - and vote for their incumbent. I think the longer this goes on, the more blame will shift to Obama and the Democrats who are demanding the House of Representatives abandon their Constitutional right to decide what they want to fund and what they do not - with Democrats and Obama shutting down all of government, Reid literally now openly willing to cause people to die, and threatening to destroy the America economy if House Republicans will not vote that Obama has the power of a dictator.

 

[joko104]

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Hey look at that, Obama's rating has only just now dipped to the rating Bush averaged throughout his second term.

Oh well, at least he couldn't possibly do any worse than Congress, right?

Yes, Obama is as popular as Bush became in his second term. That's something for Democrat partisans to brag about! :lamo

Even the most extreme efforts by the Democratic media and press to blindly back him on everything is breaking down.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

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Yes, Obama is as popular as Bush became in his second term. That's something for Democrat partisans to brag about! :lamo

Even the most extreme efforts by the Democratic media and press to back blindly back him on everything is breaking down.

I guess you would've pwned me if I was Democrat partisan. Unfortunately, I'm not a waterboy for either party.

 

[vesper]

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Wow Obama has dropped 4 points in 4 days. If this continues he will be worse off than Congress by Halloween!

 

[Visbek]

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RealClearPolitics average has him at 44% approve / 50% disapprove. It's around the same as he was in the first half of 2011. It has improved, perhaps insignificantly, in the past week.

 

[Somerville]

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The difference is people don't vote for or against "Congress" when the vote. Most people despise "Congress" - and vote for their incumbent. I think the longer this goes on, the more blame will shift to Obama and the Democrats who are demanding the House of Representatives abandon their Constitutional right to decide what they want to fund and what they do not - with Democrats and Obama shutting down all of government, Reid literally now openly willing to cause people to die, and threatening to destroy the America economy if House Republicans will not vote that Obama has the power of a dictator.

If you bothered to read the npr article, you would see that it is the GOP going down. Since when has anyone asked to vote for dictatorial powers for the President? You know - in this world, not the world where the talking heads and bloggers live.

 

[joko104]

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If you bothered to read the npr article, you would see that it is the GOP going down. Since when has anyone asked to vote for dictatorial powers for the President? You know - in this world, not the world where the talking heads and bloggers live.

It is the power of Congress to decide what to fund and not fund. The House of Representatives does not want to fund Obamacare nor raise the debt ceiling. President Obama along with his Democratic senators have declared they will (and have) shut down the government and will destroy the American economy and otherwise harm anyone and everyone if Republicans will not abandon their right to decide what to fund and not fund. Their demand of Obama and Senate Democrats is that the House of Representatives do whatever they are told to do and to totally surrender the Constitutional authority to Obama and the rich people's Senate.

No matter how many times the press and media tells the lie, it is the Democrats in the Senate that shut down the government. Republicans in the House have only refused to fund Obamacare - which is their Constitutional right to do. Obamacare legislation did NOT provide for proper funding, therefore funding it is NOT established law.

 

[Zyphlin]

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[VanceMack]

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Nice photoshop job.

It looks like the President, even with a low approval rating, is doing a better job than Congress - from your link

The president is measured as the individual Congress is measured collectively. I'd like to meet the 5% that think congress is doing a good job...and then send their ass to Venezuela.

 

[VanceMack]

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If you bothered to read the npr article, you would see that it is the GOP going down. Since when has anyone asked to vote for dictatorial powers for the President? You know - in this world, not the world where the talking heads and bloggers live.

The only people 'going down' are the shills that carry the water for Obama no matter how pathetic a job he does.

 

[Somerville]

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The only people 'going down' are the shills that carry the water for Obama no matter how pathetic a job he does.

Interesting you would believe such, the polling suggests otherwise:

Republicans could lose their House majority because of the shutdown

It's been recently claimed (for instance, at RealClearPolitics and The New Republic) that the GOP is at little risk of losing its majority in the House. New surveys suggest that thanks to the shutdown and debt ceiling battle, the situation has changed.

House Republicans enjoy an exceptional advantage in the form of gerrymandered districts. In the 2012 elections, Democrats won the national popular vote by 1.5%, but they needed a 7.3% margin to take control. So broadly speaking, opinion would have to swing by about 6% or more for control of the House to become competitive.

Gee, I wonder why they would do some gerrymandering. It's not like more Americans voted for Dems in the 2012 elections than for Republican candidates - oh, wait, yes they did 1.3 million more votes than Republican candidates in 2012

Since the election is over a year away, it is hard to predict how this will translate to future seat gain/loss. If the election were held today, Democrats would pick up around 30 seats, giving them control of the chamber. I do not expect this to happen. Many things will happen in the coming 12 months, and the current crisis might be a distant memory. But at this point I do expect Democrats to pick up seats next year, an exception to the midterm rule.

Note that in these calculations I did not even include the worst of the news for Republicans. In a followup series of questions, PPP then told respondents that their representative voted for the shutdown. At that point, the average swing moved a further 3.1% toward Democrats, and 22 out of 24 points were in the gray zone. That would be more like a 50-seat gain for Democrats - equivalent to a wave election.

Nice, when told that their Republican representative had voted for the shutdown, the Dems could gain 50 seats!! Not likely but all that is needed is for 17 seats to shift.

Now what was that about the Obama water-carrying "shills"?

 

[Perotista]

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Because President Al Sharpton is such a "uniter" and master negotiator. Oh! He doesn't negotiate with representatives of the American people...

Obama waves to America after being asked if he will negotiate on October 9, 2013.

your photo is kind of childish. Perhaps NPR is right or not, but I prefer the RCP average. RCP averages 8 different polls. President Obama's approval rating per is at 37%, but per Gallup it is at 46% and of all people, the Rasmussen Poll which Democrats tend to hate has the presidents approval at 51%. The last of the 10-7-13 polls, the Economist has the President's approval rating at 48%. Now you throw in Fox, Reuters, CNN and Quinnipiac which makes up RCP 8 Poll average you have 44.6 approval rating vs. a 49.8. Averaging 8 polls together gives one a more accurate rating of how the people see the president than just one poll as a snap shot of the day. I also gave you 4 different polls also as a snapshot of the day, 7 OCT and they ranged from 37 to 51%. Any polling firm can have a bad day and come up with a skewed poll.

 

[Perotista]

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Interesting you would believe such, the polling suggests otherwise:

Gee, I wonder why they would do some gerrymandering. It's not like more Americans voted for Dems in the 2012 elections than for Republican candidates - oh, wait, yes they did 1.3 million more votes than Republican candidates in 2012

Nice, when told that their Republican representative had voted for the shutdown, the Dems could gain 50 seats!! Not likely but all that is needed is for 17 seats to shift.

Now what was that about the Obama water-carrying "shills"?

The problem with prognosticating the house is that everyone loves their own congressman, but they hate the other 434. Charlie Cook and Larry Sabato differ with your poll above. But the poll above and both Cook and Sabato mean nothing this far out. Look back to 1996 when the shut down occurred much closer to the election and the numbers of who blamed the republicans over the president and the democrats were much wider. 51% blamed Republicans 28% President Clinton and the Democrats. In a year in which Clinton trounced Dole, the Republicans lost only 2 house seats and gained 2 senate seats. A wash over the shutdown.

But here is a new poll from CNN and the narrative. The important numbers are 63% angry at Republicans and 53% angry at President Obama. That is a far cry from 51 vs. 28 back in 1996. Here is the whole thing.

A new CNN/ORC International poll shows that no one is coming out ahead in the current federal funding impasse, but Republicans are taking more heat than the Democrats.
According to the survey, 63 percent of those questioned said they were angry at Republicans, with 57 percent also angry at Democrats, and 53 percent unhappy with President Obama. Nearly half of those surveyed said the shutdown has caused major problems.
Those numbers are higher than during the shutdowns of 1995-96, when President Bill Clinton and Republicans, under then House Speaker Newt Gingrich, reached an impasse over government funding. Republicans took most of the blame during that stoppage (as evidenced by the famous New York Daily News cover from November 1995).
When the crisis ended, President Clinton’s approval numbers rose to some of their highest of his first term. But this time around, with President Obama receiving a much higher share of the blame in polls — and with no end in sight — it doesn’t look like any winner will emerge anytime soon.


Read more: In New Poll, Americans Blame Everyone for Government Shutdown | TIME.com

 

[davidtaylorjr]

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and then there are other polls

Interesting Huff Post poll, looks like it's not as lopsided as people would have us believe....
Government Shutdown Blame? Poll Fingers Republicans And Democrats

 

[VanceMack]

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Interesting you would believe such, the polling suggests otherwise:

Gee, I wonder why they would do some gerrymandering. It's not like more Americans voted for Dems in the 2012 elections than for Republican candidates - oh, wait, yes they did 1.3 million more votes than Republican candidates in 2012

Nice, when told that their Republican representative had voted for the shutdown, the Dems could gain 50 seats!! Not likely but all that is needed is for 17 seats to shift.

Now what was that about the Obama water-carrying "shills"?

I think you missed the point of the post....

 

[iguanaman]

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The difference is people don't vote for or against "Congress" when the vote. Most people despise "Congress" - and vote for their incumbent. I think the longer this goes on, the more blame will shift to Obama and the Democrats who are demanding the House of Representatives abandon their Constitutional right to decide what they want to fund and what they do not - with Democrats and Obama shutting down all of government, Reid literally now openly willing to cause people to die, and threatening to destroy the America economy if House Republicans will not vote that Obama has the power of a dictator.

You missed the memo. The GOP has stopped mentioning stalling the AHC act and have moved on to cutting entitlements. Who is the patron saint of lost causes again?

 

[Fenton]

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You missed the memo. The GOP has
stopped mentioning stalling the AHC
act and have moved on to cutting entitlements. Who is the patron saint of lost causes again?

When did the GOP fund the ACA ? This morning, 5 seconds ago ?

And the only party to switch narratives mid stream are the Democrats, as they wen't from claiming the GOP wanted to "take away your healthcare" to "the GOP wants us to defualt".

You know because everyone hates Obama-Care.

Its interesting to note how much media bias, how much effort and energy it took the Democrats to get GW Bush down to 37%.

You remember, all of their blood for oil nonsense and "he lied people died".

I mean you people had the media on your side.

What did WE have to do to get Barry down to 37% ??

LOL !!! Nothing.

Sit back and watch him and his idiotic policies fail, and thats with the media STILL on your side.

 

[zimmer]

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Nice photoshop job.

It looks like the President, even with a low approval rating, is doing a better job than Congress - from your link

Congress is not the Republican Party... it's both...

When Bush hit 37% the press had an orgasm... and they hammered Bush43 for years before he got there... Obama has had a the powder puff propagandists propping him up for 5-years... why aren't they harder than a rock and shooter their loads at this new ObamaLow?

ROTFLOL... we know why... don't we?

 

[humbolt]

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You missed the memo. The GOP has stopped mentioning stalling the AHC act and have moved on to cutting entitlements. Who is the patron saint of lost causes again?

It looks as if the ACA is going to fail all on it's own, without a push from anybody. Actually, had Obama accepted a 1 year delay, the GOP would have been doing the administration a favor in light of it's absolutely smashing debute. You should re-examine what constitutes a lost cause, maybe.

 

[iguanaman]

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It looks as if the ACA is going to fail all on it's own, without a push from anybody. Actually, had Obama accepted a 1 year delay, the GOP would have been doing the administration a favor in light of it's absolutely smashing debute. You should re-examine what constitutes a lost cause, maybe.

Right. The GOP was doing us a favor. Way to spin your loss. You do know that you lost right?