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Obama Aid to Pakistan Proposal $$ - Could Create 265,000 US Jobs

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According to the Christian Science Monitor, "The Obama administration is requesting $3 billion in foreign aid to Pakistan in fiscal year 2012, along with $2.3 billion in funding to boost that nation’s counterterrorism capacity."

If this money were withheld, and kept in the US to create jobs (depending on investigation of Pakistan's role in Bin Laden hideaway), 265,000 jobs could be created from that money (at $20,000/year). Granted this isn't much, but it's enough to put a roof over a family's heads, buy food, pay the electric bill, and a car note. Lots of poor unemployed souls begging in the streets would be happy to have it.

The 265,000 jobs works out to 5,300 jobs for every state in the US. Actually, the number could be much higher. If the jobs were in Homeland Security fighting illegal immigration, many more jobs would become available, as thousands more illegal aliens could be apprehended, opening up thousands more jobs.

In addition, still more jobs could be opened by the increased input of consumer spending in US stores (AKA the US economy), from the replacement of foreign workers (who send Billion$$/year out of the USA), with American workers who spend their money in the local communities, thereby boosting those American businesses, and enabling them to hire more people.
 
Would that be jobs created or just saved? Would that be jobs created for one year where the government counts a job that will last three years as three jobs or will it just be jobs created for a month like working on the census? Why can't we just say that anyone who gets a government check is "employed" and be done with it? Welfare folks, Social Security recipients could all be "employed".

I don't know but if we cut off all aid to Pakistan, is it possible they could make up the difference by selling some of their nuclear weapons to, oh, Iran?
 
Ahh yes, the gov't creating jobs!

Where have I heard this bull**** before? And where in the hell are their gov't employees making 20g's a year? We gonna invent a new teir of employee, GF what, 25 or something, on their pay scale? Who the hell earns 20g's for the gov't? They start at twice that, so cut that 265k number in half to start off, and then tell me what these people would be doing besides unionizing on the taxpayer dime. As that's seemingly all gov't jobs accomplish.

You see the gov't at work on the sides of the roads. 20 people standing around, 1 person working. So out of 130k jobs created, about 10k people would actually do a damn thing.

No thanks, just keep the damn money and pay off some debt. You don't have to spend every dime you make, liberals.
 
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I do not think the government will be able to create any jobs, and in regards to dontworrybehappy's comment, I kept hearing that providing tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans was going to create jobs as well, and that was another failed economic policy. The only way the government ever creates jobs is by investing in science and research at the academic level which in turns produces innovation and private sector growth in technology and thus job creation. The rest are all clamouring to get free trade agreements around the world so they can outsource and help this country fall flat as they laugh all the way to the bank.

While Pakistan is not entirely trustworthy, to break cooperation with them would be terrible and result in another failed state and breeding ground for Islamic extremism.
 
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tlmorg02 said:
While Pakistan is not entirely trustworthy, to break cooperation with them would be terrible and result in another failed state and breeding ground for Islamic extremism.
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Are you not aware that Pakistan's description is basically "another failed state and breeding ground for Islamic extremism" even with the 2 billions bucks a year? Dude, you can't throw money at a state and expect to solve it's problems. Pakistan is basically another Iran.

No, cut off Pakistans money. They were protecting the worst terrorist to attack our shores in its history. **** PAKISTAN.
 
Pakistan's government is basically being held in place by the United States. And while there is indeed some merit in saying "to hell with Pakistan," the government there still is very cooperative with the US and have aided in many missions against Al Qaeda and the Taliban.
 
dontworrybehappy said:
Are you not aware that Pakistan's description is basically "another failed state and breeding ground for Islamic extremism" even with the 2 billions bucks a year? Dude, you can't throw money at a state and expect to solve it's problems. Pakistan is basically another Iran.

No, cut off Pakistans money. They were protecting the worst terrorist to attack our shores in its history. **** PAKISTAN.
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Pakistan is not like Iran in any way, shape or form.
 
StillBallin75 said:
They both have nuclear programs.
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No, Iran has a program to develop functional nuclear weapons. Pakistan possesses a large arsenal of nuclear warheads, that is like having a program to engineer a car compared to having a whole fleet of working vehicles. If Pakistan falls completely apart it holds the potential to be 10x more dangerous than Iran.
 
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No, cut off Pakistans money. They were protecting the worst terrorist to attack our shores in its history. **** PAKISTAN.
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There's no evidence that Pakistan was protecting OBL. That's pure speculation.

Rumsfeld was on the radio the other day and brought up a solid point regarding this: The FBI is probably the best law enforcement agency on the planet and they have domestic criminals sit on their "most wanted list" for years, sometimes decades. Is it really that shocking that Pakistan wasn't aware of one man's presence?

How many of your cousins would you have to look up the address for if you wanted to drive to their place?
 
dontworrybehappy said:
Ahh yes, the gov't creating jobs!

Where have I heard this bull**** before? And where in the hell are their gov't employees making 20g's a year? We gonna invent a new teir of employee, GF what, 25 or something, on their pay scale? Who the hell earns 20g's for the gov't? They start at twice that, so cut that 265k number in half to start off, and then tell me what these people would be doing besides unionizing on the taxpayer dime. As that's seemingly all gov't jobs accomplish.

You see the gov't at work on the sides of the roads. 20 people standing around, 1 person working. So out of 130k jobs created, about 10k people would actually do a damn thing.

No thanks, just keep the damn money and pay off some debt. You don't have to spend every dime you make, liberals.
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Examples of government jobs : US troops in Afghanistan, firefighters, Police officers, FBI agents, ICE agents, CBP, Border Patrol, National Guard. I was in the Army Corps of Engineers for 5 years. We did the hardest work in America. We did it in hot weather wearing army fatigues including hats and combat boots. We did it rain or shine. We did from dawn to dusk, and we ALL did it, not 1 guy out of 20.

And as I said, plenty of people would be happy to have a job paying $20K/year, when that's $20K/year more than they're getting now.
 
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