Oakland store worker pulls gun on looting mob

[Checkerboard Strangler]

For...?

What law did he break and why does he deserve to go to jail for a especially long time?

In the mind of @Rich2018 just SAYING the WORD "gun" equals life in prison with no parole.
I don't think he should have shot anyone, and he didn't, however if any of these punks are juvenile their parents need a few visits from the police to find out why they are raising their children to behave like thugs.

 

[Rich2018]

For...?

What law did he break and why does he deserve to go to jail for a especially long time?

His crimes - brandishing a gun.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

His crimes - brandishing a gun.

He was literally being physically assaulted.

And even if you think drawing when you are being beaten by a violent crowd is excessive, which imo is delusional but setting that aside, that is something you think someone should be put away for a long time?

Not a fine? Not a suspension of a concealed carry permit? Literally just straight to jail for years?

If you can't draw when you are being assaulted by a large hostile crowd...when tf can you legally defend yourself at all? Do you need to wait until they've already killed you and come back from the grave with a gun?

 

[Rich2018]

He was literally being physically assaulted.

So what ?

If you can't draw when you are being assaulted by a large hostile crowd...when tf can you legally defend yourself at all? Do you need to wait until they've already killed you and come back from the grave with a gun?

And who's to say that he was being assaulted ?
And would he have been assaulted if he hadn't been so confrontational ?
Was there a clear threat to his life ?

 

[Roadvirus]

For...?

What law did he break and why does he deserve to go to jail for a especially long time?

He defended himself. That's against the law in @Rich2018's world, apparently.

 

[CLAX1911]

What even started all this? Were the cyclists trying to...rob the store? Why was there a mob and why were they violent? Were they part of the conservative protesters that were protesting the progressive Oakland government the video mentioned?

Oakland has completely given up on keeping peace.

 

[zincwarrior]

His crimes - brandishing a gun.

Self defense is clear, even in Cali. You have no logical basis for your claim.

 

[Roadvirus]

So what ?

You're right! He should've let himself be beaten more and had his entire inventory stolen! He violated their right to be thieves!

And who's to say that he was being assaulted ?

His wounds will.


Robert, the store employee who pulled his gun on the group, said this all happened after people in that crowd began punching him and one reached for his gun.

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“At the last minute and just bow, hit me right in the face and then I heard someone shooting up in the air and they took off then,” Robert said.

Video shows Oakland shop employee pulling out gun on large group

The viral video shows an Oakland liquor store employee pulling a gun on a group of more than 100 people after they say the mob tried to loot his store and assault him.

www.nbcbayarea.com

Was there a clear threat to his life ?

According to him, yes:


Robert, the store employee who pulled his gun on the group, said this all happened after people in that crowd began punching him and one reached for his gun.

“I mean he yanked on my belt pretty hard and the firearm started to go down my pants. So, I pulled it out and backed him up, backed them all up," he said.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

So what ?

WHAT

My brother in christ, my fellow American, my comrade, my fellow citizen of the Earth…HE WAS ACTIVELY BEING PUNCHED IN THE FACE.

This feels like the kind of thing I’d say to a child but…would YOU like it if a crowd of people were punching you in the face?

And who's to say that he was being assaulted ?

Me. I watched the video. He was being assaulted by and by a very large hostile crowd.

And would he have been assaulted if he hadn't been so confrontational ?

In the video we saw he wasn’t confrontational. In fact he was punched in the face multiple times and didn’t draw his gun until someone in the crowd tried to reach for it.

Was there a clear threat to his life ?

There was a clear threat of bodily harm. You don’t only get to defend yourself from lethal threats.

 

[Common Sense 1]

He is lucky he was armed or this would be a very different story.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

In the mind of @Rich2018 just SAYING the WORD "gun" equals life in prison with no parole.

He defended himself. That's against the law in @Rich2018's world, apparently.

Not going to lie I thought you were exaggerating and that he couldn’t possibly believe that. It seemed entirely beyond all possible reason.

I was wrong. I actually had to put down my phone and sit stunned for a minute when I read the “so what” reply.

 

[JMB1911A1]

He was literally being physically assaulted.

And even if you think drawing when you are being beaten by a violent crowd is excessive, which imo is delusional but setting that aside, that is something you think someone should be put away for a long time?

Not a fine? Not a suspension of a concealed carry permit? Literally just straight to jail for years?

If you can't draw when you are being assaulted by a large hostile crowd...when tf can you legally defend yourself at all? Do you need to wait until they've already killed you and come back from the grave with a gun?

He defended himself. That's against the law in @Rich2018's world, apparently.

@Rich2018 is a Brit. In the UK, you can be arrested for defending yourself from a criminal. I believe that the preferred behavior is to get on your knees and beg for your life.

In the UK, homeowners who defend themselves against burglars and violent criminals are routinely arrested and thrown in prison - NaturalNews.com

www.naturalnews.com

This case also illustrates the need for standard capacity magazines. I just ordered some +5 extenders for my M&P 9 which will take them from 17 rounds to 22 rounds.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

@Rich2018 is a Brit. In the UK, you can be arrested for defending yourself from a criminal. I believe that the preferred behavior is to get on your knees and beg for your life.

In the UK, homeowners who defend themselves against burglars and violent criminals are routinely arrested and thrown in prison - NaturalNews.com

www.naturalnews.com

The UK is like a cartoonish real life incarnation of all the worst slippery slopes. It’s like a walking advertisement for why the US constitution is a good thing lol.

This case also illustrates the need for standard capacity magazines. I just ordered some +5 extenders for my M&P 9 which will take them from 17 rounds to 22 rounds.

Sexy.

I should look into if extended mags are offered for my SAR-9.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

WHAT

My brother in christ, my fellow American, my comrade, my fellow citizen of the Earth…HE WAS ACTIVELY BEING PUNCHED IN THE FACE.

This feels like the kind of thing I’d say to a child but…would YOU like it if a crowd of people were punching you in the face?


Me. I watched the video. He was being assaulted by and by a very large hostile crowd.


In the video we saw he wasn’t confrontational. In fact he was punched in the face multiple times and didn’t draw his gun until someone in the crowd tried to reach for it.


There was a clear threat of bodily harm. You don’t only get to defend yourself from lethal threats.

There IS NO LEGAL self defense according to @Rich2018 --- we've all seen this TV show before, it's a Rich re-run.
The guy was supposed to lay down with his belly exposed and give up.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

@Rich2018 is a Brit. In the UK, you can be arrested for defending yourself from a criminal. I believe that the preferred behavior is to get on your knees and beg for your life.

In the UK, homeowners who defend themselves against burglars and violent criminals are routinely arrested and thrown in prison - NaturalNews.com

www.naturalnews.com

This case also illustrates the need for standard capacity magazines. I just ordered some +5 extenders for my M&P 9 which will take them from 17 rounds to 22 rounds.

You just HAD to resort to a joke like NaturalNews?
I could have supplied no less than a dozen links outside of NaturalNews and found something credible.
But yes, in the UK, you are required to RETREAT and even then, you might still be arrested anyway for defending your own life.
You might even be civilly liable for damages if you injure your assailant.

But it is easy to find this outside of NaturalNews dot com.

 

[JMB1911A1]

The UK is like a cartoonish real life incarnation of all the worst slippery slopes. It’s like a walking advertisement for why the US constitution is a good thing lol.


Sexy.

I should look into if extended mags are offered for my SAR-9.

MTX M&P9 +5 Magazine Extender with Spring - XTech Tactical

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I like these because they fit the contours of the grip better than the usual competition oriented extenders.

 

[JMB1911A1]

I should look into if extended mags are offered for my SAR-9.

For the SAR 9:

21 round:

SAR USA SAR9 9mm 21 Round Extended Magazine | The Mag Shack

Fit: SAR USA SAR9 pistols Material: Durable steel body Follower: Black anti-tilt polymer Baseplate: Black polymer Rear-facing round indicators

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32 round:

ProMag SAR SAR9 9mm 32 Round Extended Magazine | The Mag Shack

Fit: SAR SAR9 pistols Material: Steel Follower: Black, anti-tilt polymer Baseplate: Polymer Side-facing witness holes

themagshack.com

I have some Pro-Mag 32 rounders for the M&P9 but they sometimes misfeed. Work great in my Sub 2000 through so they stay dedicated to that gun.

 

[JMB1911A1]

You just HAD to resort to a joke like NaturalNews?
I could have supplied no less than a dozen links outside of NaturalNews and found something credible.
But yes, in the UK, you are required to RETREAT and even then, you might still be arrested anyway for defending your own life.
You might even be civilly liable for damages if you injure your assailant.

But it is easy to find this outside of NaturalNews dot com.

Well, you can blame Google's algorithms for that search result.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Well, you can blame Google's algorithms for that search result.

I don't depend entirely on a SE algorithm and every sane person knows NaturalNews is sick joke.

 

[Gozaburo]

So what ?



And who's to say that he was being assaulted ?
And would he have been assaulted if he hadn't been so confrontational ?
Was there a clear threat to his life ?

How did you end up like this? Generally curious as to how someone can become so feckless to the point that they would default to concern trolling about some guy defending himself instead of being more concerned about why we have angry roving looting mobs in a first world "civilized" nation.

Also gun debate aside, this aura you project is fundamentally anti-American. You should be deported immediately.

 

[Maidenrules29]

@Rich2018 Please go away.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

@Rich2018 Please go away.

no no. I want him to stay and explain himself.

 

[Chock Full o Nuts]

I am now just here for how rich this thread has become.

But I have learned that I shouldn't defend myself against a mob randomly beating my ass.
Or at least don't use a firearm..

I mean you have to weigh the mobs safety vs your own.. If one pulls out a bat, well follow suit. Equal..
If one pulls a firearm, well..

Anyone that goes to the gun in this situation, without regard to the crowd kicking his ass is Chock Full o Nuts.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

So what ?

Dawg you better come back and explain this one. This is too wild to just drop and then disappear.

 

[RF667799]

Dawg you better come back and explain this one. This is too wild to just drop and then disappear.

I see you've met @Rich2018.

Have him explain to you that shotguns, handguns, and rifles aren't portable while he's at it. And that there's nothing wrong with well administered concentration camps.