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NYT: We Were Badly Misled About the Event That Changed Our Lives

jaeger19 said:
Yes . Everything I said.
So what’s your issue?
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As stated. In the official records during the covid pandemic, many who died with covid rather than of covid were included as covid deaths. That includes a number of individuals involved in traffic accidents who just happened to have covid as well.
 
MAGAnificent said:
As stated. In the official records during the covid pandemic, many who died with covid rather than of covid were included as covid deaths. That includes a number of individuals involved in traffic accidents who just happened to have covid as well.
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No they weren’t.
That’s bull. People who died OF COVID got a death certificate of with COVID as immediate cause.
If Covid hastened a death or was a contributing factor then it was listed .
For example if a person in a car wreck had Covid and that’s why their respiratory system didn’t respond to treatment like it should have .

But if Covid wasn’t a factor it was not listed on the death certificate. Why would it? Why would all these physicians risk their licenses to
put an improper cause of death?

Can you explain that rationally?
 
jaeger19 said:
No they weren’t.
That’s bull. People who died OF COVID got a death certificate of with COVID as immediate cause.
If Covid hastened a death or was a contributing factor then it was listed .
For example if a person in a car wreck had Covid and that’s why their respiratory system didn’t respond to treatment like it should have .

But if Covid wasn’t a factor it was not listed on the death certificate. Why would it? Why would all these physicians risk their licenses to
put an improper cause of death?

Can you explain that rationally?
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We are repeating the same points ad nauseum. We will just have to agree to disagree.
 
MAGAnificent said:
We are repeating the same points ad nauseum. We will just have to agree to disagree.
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No. This isn’t about opinion. The truth is important.
There is no incentive for physicians “ en masse” to fabricate a covid diagnoses on a death certificate.

This is yet another lie propagated by the right wing anti vaxxer crowd.
 
jaeger19 said:
No. This isn’t about opinion. The truth is important.
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Your opinion is on that is noted and disregarded.
jaeger19 said:
There is no incentive for physicians “ en masse” to fabricate a covid diagnoses on a death certificate.
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I did not say they fabricated a diagnosis of Covid. I said that on many occasions they called it a Covid death simply because the patient happened to have Covid, even if the patient did not die of Covid.
jaeger19 said:
This is yet another lie propagated by the right wing anti vaxxer crowd.
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But then you have not yet shown the ability to differentiate between anti-mandate and anti-vaxxer. If you ever do, you will make more sense.
 
MAGAnificent said:
Your opinion is on that is noted and disregarded.
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Yeah not opinion. I even cited the standard form and directions for filling it out.
MAGAnificent said:
I did not say they fabricated a diagnosis of Covid. I said that on many occasions they called it a Covid death simply because the patient happened to have Covid, even if the patient did not die of Covid.
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That’s fabricating a Covid diagnosis as cause of death.
MAGAnificent said:
But then you have not yet shown the ability to differentiate between anti-mandate and anti-vaxxer. If you ever do, you will make more sense.
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Because there is no “ differentiation”
Heck what national mandates. ?

You are trying to differentiate yourself from an anti vaxxer while spewing the same nonsense they do.

If the truth makes you uncomfortable, that’s on you.
 
jaeger19 said:
Heck what national mandates. ?
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The one that the turd "Joe Biden inflicted on the military is one" prime example.
jaeger19 said:
You are trying to differentiate yourself from an anti vaxxer while spewing the same nonsense they do.
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That is not an intellectual response. To be pro-vaccine, I do not have to pro-vaccine mandate as well. It's really kind of dumb to suggest someone like me who has taken all of the Covid vaccines, most recently in late 2024, annually takes the flu shots, in the last few months has taken the RSV vaccine, has taken both Shingrex shots, and all three pneumonia vaccines as anti-vaxx.
jaeger19 said:
If the truth makes you uncomfortable, that’s on you.
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You are the one who is uncomfortable, or just butthurt that not everyone takes your alleged medical expertise seriously.
 
MAGAnificent said:
The one that the turd "Joe Biden inflicted on the military is one" prime example.

That is not an intellectual response. To be pro-vaccine, I do not have to pro-vaccine mandate as well. It's really kind of dumb to suggest someone like me who has taken all of the Covid vaccines, most recently in late 2024, annually takes the flu shots, in the last few months has taken the RSV vaccine, has taken both Shingrex shots, and all three pneumonia vaccines as anti-vaxx.

You are the one who is uncomfortable, or just butthurt that not everyone takes your alleged medical expertise seriously.
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The military has been forced to take vaccines forever*.





* Slight hyperbole
 
MAGAnificent said:
The turd who occupied the oval office prior to Trump's second term.
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According to Trump he won the 2020 election so the person who occupied the oval office before Trumps second term was Trump
Or are you gonna say that Trump was lying about the election
 
Quag said:
According to Trump he won the 2020 election so the person who occupied the oval office before Trumps second term was Trump
Or are you gonna say that Trump was lying about the election
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Biden (turd) held office in that four-year period, just not legitimately.
 
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