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When did you take the blue pill?
When did you take the blue pill?This is not true.
Bull.It's not the right that is politicizing science, it's your beloved ultra-left.
Tgat again is not true and you were shown it was not.What science and the intelligence community has determined is that it was most likely a lab leak. We will probably never know for sure as the commies in China have not shared the cultures from the original lab workers who died of Covid.
I don’t take you seriously.I do not take undated op eds seriously.
No worries. I do not take you the least bit seriously either.I don’t take you seriously.
I am not in on any of the investigations against Fauci. I do have an extremely low opinion of him.Compare that to the right claiming “ fauci needs to go to jail, he’s a criminal etc.
Until the communist government in China shares the cultures from the lab workers that were the first known infected, your quoted research does not really mean anything.You are of course welcome to cite the research papers supporting that it was a lab leak.
Much like factual information, which I posted and you seem determined to ignore.No worries. I do not take you the least bit seriously either.
Why?I am not in on any of the investigations against Fauci. I do have an extremely low opinion of him.
It means a hell of a lot more than your complete lack of evidence.Until the communist government in China shares the cultures from the lab workers that were the first known infected, your quoted research does not really mean anything.
To be fair, he could just be trolling hard.It means a hell of a lot more than your complete lack of evidence.
Without any scientific evidence at all.
You are stating that science has determined it’s a lab leak.
You are basically lying.
Originally, I held him in high regard. His initial false claims that the US was not involved with gain of function research at the Wuhan lab soured me on him.Why do you have a low opinion of him?
I agree. No scientific evidence at all....and there probably never will be without Chinese sharing the lab cultures of the infected lab workers with the rest of the world.It means a hell of a lot more than your complete lack of evidence.
Without any scientific evidence at all.
You are making it up. What I am stating is that the prevailing theory is now a lab leak.You are stating that science has determined it’s a lab leak.
You seem quite frustrated that I do not accept your opinion as the last word. Is it an ego thang?You are basically lying.
Since scientists began playing around with dangerous pathogens in laboratories, the world has experienced four or five pandemics, depending on how you count. One of them, the 1977 Russian flu, was almost certainly sparked by a research mishap. Some Western scientists quickly suspected the odd virus had resided in a lab freezer for a couple of decades, but they kept mostly quiet for fear of ruffling feathers.
Yet in 2020, when people started speculating that a laboratory accident might have been the spark that started the Covid-19 pandemic, they were treated like kooks and cranks. Many public health officials and prominent scientists dismissed the idea as a conspiracy theory, insisting that the virus had emerged from animals in a seafood market in Wuhan, China. And when a nonprofit called EcoHealth Alliance lost a grant because it was planning to conduct risky research into bat viruses with the Wuhan Institute of Virology — research that, if conducted with lax safety standards, could have resulted in a dangerous pathogen leaking out into the world — no fewer than 77 Nobel laureates and 31 scientific societies lined up to defend the organization.
So the Wuhan research was totally safe, and the pandemic was definitely caused by natural transmission — it certainly seemed like consensus.
We have since learned, however, that to promote the appearance of consensus, some officials and scientists hid or understated crucial facts, misled at least one reporter, orchestrated campaigns of supposedly independent voices and even compared notes about how to hide their communications in order to keep the public from hearing the whole story. And as for that Wuhan laboratory’s research, the details that have since emerged show that safety precautions might have been terrifyingly lax.
Now they tell us, but most of us knew pretty quickly they were lying to us. People in power who lied to us need to be held responsible.
As usual, you are making it up as you go along. You do not have the foggiest idea. You just go along with other libruls.COVID most likely came from natural sources. It’s a fact, no matter how much you’d prefer it not to be.
Since scientists began playing around with dangerous pathogens in laboratories, the world has experienced four or five pandemics, depending on how you count. One of them, the 1977 Russian flu, was almost certainly sparked by a research mishap. Some Western scientists quickly suspected the odd virus had resided in a lab freezer for a couple of decades, but they kept mostly quiet for fear of ruffling feathers.
Yet in 2020, when people started speculating that a laboratory accident might have been the spark that started the Covid-19 pandemic, they were treated like kooks and cranks. Many public health officials and prominent scientists dismissed the idea as a conspiracy theory, insisting that the virus had emerged from animals in a seafood market in Wuhan, China. And when a nonprofit called EcoHealth Alliance lost a grant because it was planning to conduct risky research into bat viruses with the Wuhan Institute of Virology — research that, if conducted with lax safety standards, could have resulted in a dangerous pathogen leaking out into the world — no fewer than 77 Nobel laureates and 31 scientific societies lined up to defend the organization.
So the Wuhan research was totally safe, and the pandemic was definitely caused by natural transmission — it certainly seemed like consensus.
We have since learned, however, that to promote the appearance of consensus, some officials and scientists hid or understated crucial facts, misled at least one reporter, orchestrated campaigns of supposedly independent voices and even compared notes about how to hide their communications in order to keep the public from hearing the whole story. And as for that Wuhan laboratory’s research, the details that have since emerged show that safety precautions might have been terrifyingly lax.
Now they tell us, but most of us knew pretty quickly they were lying to us. People in power who lied to us need to be held responsible.
As usual, you are making it up as you go along. You do not have the foggiest idea. You just go along with other libruls.
I literally provided you with a current analysis that surveyed scientists opinions.As usual, you are making it up as you go along. You do not have the foggiest idea. You just go along with other libruls.
And once again, multiple people are telling you you're wrong. And they are bringing evidence, unlike you.You are making it up. What I am stating is that the prevailing theory is now a lab leak.
Why are you concerned about gain of function.?Originally, I held him in high regard. His initial false claims that the US was not involved with gain of function research at the Wuhan lab soured me on him.
No. YOU don’t have scientific evidence.I agree. No scientific evidence at all....and there probably never will be without Chinese sharing the lab cultures of the infected lab workers with the rest of the world.
You are making it up. What I am stating is that the prevailing theory is now a lab leak.
You seem quite frustrated that I do not accept your opinion as the last word. Is it an ego thang?
Easy. If the Covid pandemic started with a lab leak at the Wuhan Lab, it was due to poorly run gain of function research. And it the US was in any way involved, even just financially, your little buddy Dr Fauci is complicit at some level.Why are you concerned about gain of function.?
No, you absolutely do not.No. YOU don’t have scientific evidence.
I however do
Without the original lab cultures from the infected lab workers or a proven host animal, you are just pissing in the wind..Tge current best scientific evidence from dna sampling , from zoonotic studies , etc
Suggests that it was of a zoonotic origin and not a lab leak.
You just told a lie yourself. I am not and have never been an anti-vaxxer. I have personally taken six Covid vaccine jabs. How many have you taken. I am anti-vaccine mandate. I think it should be up to each individual where or not to take it. When you assume that everyone who does not agree with mandates is an anti-vaxxer, you really do not appear intelligent.Oh no. There is no frustration on my part.
I just wish you anti vaxxers wouldn’t lie.
It's not just about scientific evidence. Without the original cultures or at least a verified host animal, the intelligence agencies have a say as well.The prevailing scientific theory is that it WAS NOT A LAB LEAK .
Not a rational statement.You are literally killing people with your lies
Look how the lefties go partisan right away in reaction to this huge admission from the NYT.
Shouldn't we all be angry that we were lied to about something that killed millions?
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