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This is a poor choice and I would imagine that there will be some vandalism. Doesn't mean it's right to vandalize, but this isn't about building bridges. It's inflammatory.
Exactly my point.
This is like Annheiser-Busch building a "History of Beer" Museum next to a monument dedicated to all those died in Drunk Driving accidents because they want to "Build Bridges" with those that have suffered due to alcoholism.
This is like Jane Fonda making a building that's dedicated to the "Life and Times of Jane Fonda" next to the Vietnam Vets memorial, stating she hopes that by seeing her life people will come to understand her better and realize she's not so bad.
This is like the Japanese making a building in the 1950's dedicated to Japanese Culture right next to Pearl Harbor in hopes of "Building Bridges" with the Americans.
Would those things necessarily be wrong legally and should be stopped legally? No. Would they be foolish, tactless things to do that would make one think your reasonings are bull**** because the very people you'd be trying to reach with such a message are the ones you're actually just pissing off by doing it? Absolutely.
I'm not sure if I'm understanding your objection to the building of this Mosque/Community Center correctly.
Is your issue with the fact that they want to "build bridges" with non-Muslims?
That somehow that is an offensive thing to do because some Muslims killed people?
What if there was no such reason? What if they just wanted to build a place of worship, period? Should the whole of Islam be guilt-tripped for what a few deranged individuals (who do not speak for Islam to begin with) did?
I don't understand why you want to collectively punish the entire Muslim community by associating them with the terrorists.
For the record, I'd have no problem with a beer company building a museum next to a memorial of drunk driving victims.
Just like a gun manufacturer can't be held responsible for the Columbine massacre and would be entitled to build a gun museum nearby.
As for the Japanese, what would be so wrong with them wanting to "build bridges" with a nation they were once at war with?
I've just inked a deal with a consortium of Japanese investors that wish to erect a museum celebrating WWII Kamikaze pilots.
The site we've tentavely selected is adjacent to the USS Arizona.
I've just inked a deal with a consortium of Japanese investors that wish to erect a museum celebrating WWII Kamikaze pilots.
The site we've tentavely selected is adjacent to the USS Arizona.
How is a mosque the equivalent of a museum celebrating kamikaze pilots?
I've just inked a deal with a consortium of Japanese investors that wish to erect a museum celebrating WWII Kamikaze pilots.
The site we've tentavely selected is adjacent to the USS Arizona.
Considering that comparison is in no way an honest one, maybe you should come up with some better argument.
This is two blocks away first off, which in New York City terms is quite far, plus you cannot blame 9/11 on Islam.
My American investment partners have expressed interest in erecting a museum celebrating the Manhattan Project, J. Robert Oppenheimer, the Enola Gay and her crew, and "Little Boy" and "Fat Man".
Site selection has become contentious, however....Hiroshima is the obvious choice, but the Nagasaki location has many supporters.
We don't expect any opposition from the locals for this, or the Kamikazi museum project in Hawaii...
My American investment partners have expressed interest in erecting a museum celebrating the Manhattan Project, J. Robert Oppenheimer, the Enola Gay and her crew, and "Little Boy" and "Fat Man".
Site selection has become contentious, however....Hiroshima is the obvious choice, but the Nagasaki location has many supporters.
We don't expect any opposition from the locals for this, or the Kamikazi museum project in Hawaii...
The site locations for all three projects are quite offensive, no?
Switzerland....my, my....you've found yourself in the Muslim belly of the beast, huh?
Do you ever make any sense?
I'll enjoy the forum on my terms, thank you very much.
So, I guess "other" describing your "lean" means lefty apologist?
Perfect sense.....that uncomfortable little Minaret ban must have really gotten your undies in a bunch.
The only way the NYC Cordoba House project could be considered the equivalent to your other scenarios would be if instead of a mosque/community center they were building a museum celebrating terrorism. Do you think that mosques are terrorism museums?
Perfect sense.....that uncomfortable little Minaret ban must have really gotten your undies in a bunch.
DO you think that mosques are terrorism museums?
Not really. I'm an atheist. I really don't care about religious buildings, but I did vote against the ban because I believe in freedom of religion.
My argument effectively illuminates an equivilent offensiveness many may find in all three project proposals. Hence your apologist attempts to deflect with silly questions.
It still doesn't bother me at all, because my mind doesn't automatically connect "Muslim" with "terrorist". I don't think of 9/11 and think about Muslims or Islam, I just think about terrorism. Probably because I've never believed that religion was the main reason these people did what they did. I believe their motives go much deeper that that and are ultimately political in nature.
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