No, you don't get it. You are not saving anyone. you are not a hero. You are not protecting the world. The reality is that if gunshots started around you and you had an obvious assault rifle you would be dead. Why? because anyone with even the most smallest of brain shoots the armed man first. yeah, you are there with your assault rifle and all that makes you is a gigantic target. If you do survive the police will have trouble telling you from the actual shooter and you will just confuse the situation. That is reality. You need to stop living in the movies. From your perception the gunfire starts and while you are trying to figure out whether or not the shooting is over or still a threat and where to go the killer is moving on and will eventually see you. You don't know what is going on, and you are clearly a scared rabbit ready to twitch fire and frankly I would much rather you not fire. I don't trust your reasoning or abilities. I know you are far more likely to be a danger to the people around you and an interference to law enforcement than saving the day. believe me, you don't want people like me armed around you because you would be one of the people I would take down. If it has a gun and is not a police officer I would waste it. That means you hero boy.
Nope. What you suggest is completely unrealistic. Do you think that either Aurora or Newtown would have been "committed" under some new system ?
Sooo.. fish in a barrel is preferred because it makes CSI a little easier at first glance. :roll:
You will need to explain your entire thought as I am not proficient in whatever it is you are talking about.
I apologize for your reading comprehension. If you cant see how it ties in to your post its not my fault.
Actually yes. Aurora at least as Holmes would have been barred from buying firearms as his pysch evals would have flagged markers and prevented a sale.
Newtown is something else as he took weapons legally owned by his mother and used them. Part of that is his mother's fault for actually having weapons available to a nutjob.
Tell me how it's unrealistic to link pysch evals to firearm purchases.
Israel does this.
in other words you had nothing of any importance to say. OK, I got the message.
No, you don't get it. You are not saving anyone. you are not a hero. You are not protecting the world. The reality is that if gunshots started around you and you had an obvious assault rifle you would be dead. Why? because anyone with even the most smallest of brain shoots the armed man first. yeah, you are there with your assault rifle and all that makes you is a gigantic target. If you do survive the police will have trouble telling you from the actual shooter and you will just confuse the situation. That is reality. You need to stop living in the movies. From your perception the gunfire starts and while you are trying to figure out whether or not the shooting is over or still a threat and where to go the killer is moving on and will eventually see you. You don't know what is going on, and you are clearly a scared rabbit ready to twitch fire and frankly I would much rather you not fire. I don't trust your reasoning or abilities. I know you are far more likely to be a danger to the people around you and an interference to law enforcement than saving the day. believe me, you don't want people like me armed around you because you would be one of the people I would take down. If it has a gun and is not a police officer I would waste it. That means you hero boy.
I will cede you psyche evals. I am OK with such. I am also OK with such as 3 day waits, so as to conduct a more thorough background check.
But I also want the good guys to have guns always. And no more "gun free zones".
OBTW, perhaps not mentioned, but all that a "gun free zone", or a "drug free zone" designates are harsher penalties if caught with such in that zone. Not unlike "higher fines when workers present" where there are road repairs ongoing.
Yeah, and that is why I don't need a gun to do damage!well, you have me convinced.... you most assuredly should not be armed.
I should be, but not you.... you're dangerous.
That is an absurd argument no one made captain obvious.
So this is why I chose stricter regulations on who can buy assault rifles, and the responsibilities those people have for securing them.
NRA Newtown response: National program to place armed security in schools
LaPierre in part blamed mass shootings on "vicious, violent video games" such as "Bulletstorm," "Grand Theft Auto," Mortal Kombat" and "Splatterhouse." He also reached back in time to place blame on movies like "American Psycho" and "Natural Born Killers" for portraying "life as a joke and murder as a way of life."
He went on to say that congress should put armed officers in every school in America. Who'd a thunk that a lobby for gun manufacturing comes up with the solution that we need to sell more guns? What a shocker.
Anywhoo... I find it interesting that he chose to put a stupidity rift on this issue between his lobbying for the gun manufacturing industry and the video game, movie and music industries. He made it appear as "Guns? it's not gu.... LOOK OVER THERE!"
Sometimes I'm not sure that both sides of the table understand the Second Amendment and why such an Amendment exists.
Schools don't need "armed guards" however teachers should be allowed to conceal and carry if they wish to do so.
Besides, it's the progressive ideology that breeds these school shootings/mass homicides. Progressives tell kids they're all number one, and the second they realize they're number two they go "bang-bang" and loose their minds. Of course the media doesn't help by glorifying the shooters and turning them into "15-minute pop stars." It also doesn't help when kids are being taught to balk at religion - that morals and religious ethics are somehow "goofy."
The truth is progressives breed a society of kids who believe they're entitled to anything and everything and the first person to challenge them on their messed up pathology (that was drilled into their heads) is going to get met with violence.
Right, because progressive households are just littered with guns. Your assessment is beyond idiotic.
Guns have absolutely nothing to do with my opinion on how progressives pamper children.
A gun is nothing more than a tool. I could kill someone with a pen or pencil, knife, beer can, beer bottle, chair or just about anything that exists in a progressives home.
My point was that progressives breed killers - and I don't care what method they use - when they snap they snap.
Right, because common knowledge tells us that progressive households are just littered with guns. Your assessment is beyond idiotic.
Citation needed beyond your completely idiotic drive-by psychological assessment that makes no sense.
I'd even like for you to simply show us that these shooters are progressive. This last guy was the son of a doomsday prepper... is it your contention that doomsday preppers are generally progressive?
Well, it ain't the guns. Its the loose cannons that have their finger on the trigger.
But in all truthiness, progressive ideology has brought us a childbirth rate with unwed mothers now more than twice what it was in 1980. Male children with no daddy in the home are six times more likely to be felons. The indisputable fact is that the decay of family values leads to higher incidence of anti-social behavior. Add to it the fomenting of class envy (ring a bell Obama voters ?), and it is inevitable that you will get more acts of outrage, evil against innocent.
That horse is not going back in the barn.
"If it feels good, do it". OK. Here we are. Does not appear to be a forward-thinking strategy now, does it ?
I will give you that the shooters rate no normal category, such as liberal or conservative, etc. They are crazy. Exponentially so, by standards that you and I adhere too.
However, it is a more progressive society over the last 30 years that mentally enables the crazies. Cause we are now unique amongst all the other well-armed first world countries with regard to gun crime, and the massacres. That includes when comparing us to that first-world 1960 US of A. We have evolved, a bit for the worse.
It will self-correct. At a high price is all.
Citation needed beyond your completely idiotic drive-by psychological assessment that makes no sense.
I'd even like for you to simply show us that these shooters are progressive. This last guy was the son of a doomsday prepper... is it your contention that doomsday preppers are generally progressive?
Still waiting for any credible research rather than made up finger-pointing crap.
btw... it takes a gun to be a shooter so guns to have some part in it. And claiming progressives, who are more known to NOT have guns for mass shootings, an argument shooting yourself in the foot.
......... That reckoning is now upon us, and we owe it to those children and their families to take it seriously. As a nation, we must reconsider the treatment of the mentally ill. We must challenge a popular culture that accepts stomach-churning violence in our movies and video games. We must look at the use of high-capacity ammunition magazines and military-style assault weapons.
Committed gun owners like me can and must listen to reasonable ideas about preventing mass violence. But whatever steps we take must be comprehensive — and must bring the entertainment industry and mental health community to the table. We cannot snap our fingers, push one-track legislation that focuses exclusively on guns and pat ourselves on the back. Such an approach certainly won’t fare well in Congress. More important, it won’t fully address the problem.
read more:Sen. Joe Manchin: Between Obama and the NRA, another path to stopping mass violence - The Washington Post
As much as you try to claim it, progressives didn't build the societal ills you are complaining about. Shifting economy built it. It's not a result of "if it feels good do it" mentality or lack of church or anyting like that. During the 80's everything shifted from one income households to a two income household... due to economic pressures to do so. If you want a breakdown in family and what they used to call, "latch-key kids" start looking there. Then at the miraculous appearance of an abundance of cheap cocaine from out of nowhere.
I don't need to cite what I have observed.
That's all you needed to say. You say you don't but the fact is you can't. This comment is in direct scynch with another poster noted in my sig.
Am not going to waste my time documenting crime rates, etc. Many on both sides of the aisle realize the impact that I note:
I respect Joe Manchin. He echoes much of what LaPierre said. LaPierre, whose job is to hammer the gun-owner's legitimate view. aka the "non-liberal" view.
You can easily find out that my words about illegitimate births and crime are true. Unwed Moms is a progressively fomented position. It then generates higher crime rates. It is just one slice of the pie, but they all have the same center.
Almost all of these mass murdering youngsters were heavy into violent video, and twisted internet chat rooms. Peer refuge for the warped mind that did not exist just 20 years ago, much less 40.
Now you post better if you can. Many of us are far more experienced than you. In time, you will be able to say that to others.
Running to the basement is a cop-out, btw. Do not soil yourself once again.
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