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Peaceful Muslim said:
What i wanted to clarify, if someone is using this method under the name of serving Islam of course they are mistaken tell me something, what good came out of 9/11 if the so called muslim did it for the sake of muslims?? this is why i said those organizations relate in noway to true Islam concepts in War
I know you will relate the same to Hamas actions.. remember when i told you when "if i came to the US and bombed you then call me a terrorist" Hamas at least are resisting in an actual war .If Hamas went to the US and bombed a building there, everybody will condemn that action..

I think trying to reason with people so far away brainwahsed is useless. Many of these people obviously haven't gotten to know a Muslim very well. I imagine if they actually were to get to know a Muslim very well and got to know some of the culture in the Islamic World, looked back on their ignorant statements, they would feel really stupid.
 
ManOfTrueTruth said:
I think trying to reason with people so far away brainwahsed is useless. Many of these people obviously haven't gotten to know a Muslim very well. I imagine if they actually were to get to know a Muslim very well and got to know some of the culture in the Islamic World, looked back on their ignorant statements, they would feel really stupid.

Ok MOTT, so that's how you're gonna play it. Just pretend you haven't been stone cold busted in a lie. Brilliant tactic.

ManOfTrueTruth said:
I was an American soldier at one time and served in Bosnia. I saw how the US government covered up a genocide of a European Muslim people.

So MOTT. How many rounds do you get in the final basic training marksmanship qualifying range? How many platoons in a basic training company? Where did you do basic? Does your anus pucker when you lie?
 
teacher said:
Ok MOTT, so that's how you're gonna play it. Just pretend you haven't been stone cold busted in a lie. Brilliant tactic.



So MOTT. How many rounds do you get in the final basic training marksmanship qualifying range? How many platoons in a basic training company? Where did you do basic? Does your anus pucker when you lie?

Why would I lie? I do not have to prove anything to you.
 
ManOfTrueTruth said:
Why would I lie? I do not have to prove anything to you.

Ah, a "soldier" who can't answer simple military questions. Of course you have nothing to prove to me. But if you want to be taken seriously here, (of which I know something about), besides by Peaceful Muslim, I would suggest you prove that you where a soldier. But you can't so I'm gonna have some fun with you. For one this bullshit...


ManOfTrueTruth said:
I was an American soldier at one time and served in Bosnia. I saw how the US government covered up a genocide of a European Muslim people.

I will not let stand. For another, I WAS a soldier, and there is little thing us present and former military can't stand. And that is people claiming to have served when they haven't. I've caught you bro. I'm gonna be on you like skin. This is not a debate, this is a hunt. Get used to it. All you have to do is answer some simple common questions and I'll recant, apologize, and folks around here may believe what you say. Believe me sport, they don't now. So why waste your time here? This is not a Bin Laden propaganda outlet. What's even worse for you is that Clinton was in for the Bosnia deal. So you can't play right against left on this one.

Why would you lie? Because that's what liars do.

How about some more questions? Can you wear a tie with Class B dress? Three up one down is what rank? What is Time In Grade? What's a perfect score on the grenade range?
 
Peaceful Muslim said:
What i wanted to clarify, if someone is using this method under the name of serving Islam of course they are mistaken tell me something, what good came out of 9/11 if the so called muslim did it for the sake of muslims?? this is why i said those organizations relate in noway to true Islam concepts in War
I know you will relate the same to Hamas actions.. remember when i told you when "if i came to the US and bombed you then call me a terrorist" Hamas at least are resisting in an actual war .If Hamas went to the US and bombed a building there, everybody will condemn that action..

On September 11, 2001, before the dust settled, I did not know for sure that it was a Muslim, all I saw was the method they were using. But, due to conversations fresh in my mind with a Muslim supporter of the Taliban I had some likely suspects:

“It just looks to me like chastisement, and death for nonbelievers here on earth is what is being advocated. If I am interpreting this correctly, that’s not nice. These could easy be misinterpreted, if that is what I am doing but I really don’t think so, to justify terrorist fanatics.” (Posted August 30, 2001 at 10:35 PM) {typo corrected}

On August 31, 2001 at 11:22 PM, the Muslim said, “i will write more tomorrow when i have a better chance to read your post in it's entirity. muslim.” That was the final communication. On September 01, 2001, at 12:03 AM, in response to that final communication I said: “Don’t worry about people turning around a point, if a point is true that’s all we have to worry about, anyway most people on here just run when a good argument catches them. If I find a good argument I will use it; truth neither of us have to fear.”

On September 11, 2001, I did not know that Al Quacka would first deny responsibility.

On September 11, 2001, I did not know that on October 29, 2001, many “liberals“ in this country would still be claiming that we did not have proof of who did it or that the day after I would be downloading this letter from Saddam‘s website:

“On the basis of what we said about Iraq while confronting aggressions, the world now needs to abort the US aggressive schemes, including its aggression on the Afghan people, which must stop.
Again we say that when someone feels that he is unjustly treated, and no one is repulsing or stopping the injustice inflicted on him, he personally seeks ways and means for lifting that justice. Of course, not everyone is capable of finding the best way for lifting the injustice inflicted on him. People resort to what they think is the best way according to their own ideas, and they are not all capable of reaching out for what is beyond what is available to arrive to the best idea or means.
To find the best way, after having found their way to God and His rights, those who are inflicted by injustice need not to be isolated from their natural milieu, or be ignored deliberately, or as a result of mis-appreciation, by the officials in this milieu. They should, rather, be reassured and helped to save themselves, and their surroundings. It is only normal to say that punishment is a necessity in our world, because what is a necessity in the other world must also be necessary in our world on Earth. But, the punishment in the other world is faire and just, and the prophets and messengers of God (peace be upon them all) conducted punishment and called for it in justice, and not on the basis of suspicions and whims.” (Saddam Hussein Shabban 13, 1422 H. October 29, 2001.)

All I knew for sure on September 11, 2001, was that who ever did it was vaporized, and that they must have used civilian disguise to get on the planes.

So I guess in anticipation of all of it on September 11, 2001, at 10:59:42 AM, before the dust settled, I said “Responsibility! Who cares? Death all terrorist shall share.”

===============

Since I remember August 2001, and those conversations with the Muslim supporter of the Taliban, and the verses of the Koran that caused me to have likely suspects for September 11, 2001, before I knew who dressed in civilian clothes on September 11, 2001, to get on the planes. Therefore, I have no choice but to repeat my argument and ask for an unequivocal answer:

Since “Muslims are against hurting civilians in any way,“ and since you “believe that 9/11 served the people who want Islam to look bad and justify the war against it,“ and since the 9/11 attackers wore civilian disguise, consequently, the use of civilian disguise in warfare serves the people who want civilians “to look bad and justify the war against it,” therefore, those people that use civilian disguise in warfare are the enemies of Islam.

Peaceful Muslim, in your opinion, is that a valid argument?
 
teacher said:
Ah, a "soldier" who can't answer simple military questions. Of course you have nothing to prove to me. But if you want to be taken seriously here, (of which I know something about), besides by Peaceful Muslim, I would suggest you prove that you where a soldier. But you can't so I'm gonna have some fun with you. For one this bullshit...




I will not let stand. For another, I WAS a soldier, and there is little thing us present and former military can't stand. And that is people claiming to have served when they haven't. I've caught you bro. I'm gonna be on you like skin. This is not a debate, this is a hunt. Get used to it. All you have to do is answer some simple common questions and I'll recant, apologize, and folks around here may believe what you say. Believe me sport, they don't now. So why waste your time here? This is not a Bin Laden propaganda outlet. What's even worse for you is that Clinton was in for the Bosnia deal. So you can't play right against left on this one.

Why would you lie? Because that's what liars do.

How about some more questions? Can you wear a tie with Class B dress? Three up one down is what rank? What is Time In Grade? What's a perfect score on the grenade range?

What is this? Do we have another wannabe or simply an individual looking to borrow credibility as he bashes the U.S. military institution? There have been others. (One even remains on the site after being caught trying to imply that he was an officer in Iraq and he and his "men" have a different view on Iraq. Needless to say, he no longer say's anything military.)

Is teacher wrong? Stay tuned.....
 
teacher said:
Ah, a "soldier" who can't answer simple military questions. Of course you have nothing to prove to me. But if you want to be taken seriously here, (of which I know something about), besides by Peaceful Muslim, I would suggest you prove that you where a soldier. But you can't so I'm gonna have some fun with you. For one this bullshit...

I'm not a soldier right now. If I don't want to answer questions I don't have to. I am not so concerned if I am taken seriously by EVERYBODY here, can't be friends with everybody can I? I wouldn't have any principles if I was friends with everybody. It's not BS what I am saying, that I can assure you.




I will not let stand.

Well you are going to have to let stand their buddy.

For another, I WAS a soldier

Good for you, let's everybody give you a medal now.

and there is little thing us present and former military can't stand. And that is people claiming to have served when they haven't.

I have served. As crazy as it might sound to you, I am capable of thinking for myself and developing my own views, even though I was once a soldier. Maybe you were a robot when you were a soldier and never developed your individuality or thoughts or views, but I, as a soldier am capable of thinking for myself and developing my own views, even though I did follow orders as any good soldier should do.

I've caught you bro. I'm gonna be on you like skin. This is not a debate, this is a hunt.

And if you are not on a witch hunt for "terrorists" then I guess you are on a witch hunt for supposed "liar." You haven't caught anybody bro. Really, you should learn to relax a little and not take things so personal. Just because another former soldier has a different point of view than you, doesn't mean that former soldiers is a quote "liar" and just because you don't like the message, doesn't give you the right to kill the messenger. If my word is not good enough for you then you should just ignore me and go about your business, I would prefer that you did. Really, I think you are somebody who is insecure about himself.
 
Really, I am bored with my private sector job and am unhappy. It's a great paying private sector job, buy money simply can't buy you happiness. So, I am thinking about joining back up in the military and perhaps I will be sent to Iraq to go and fight for the evil machine, but in my mind, I will not be fighting for a flag but for the men in my unit. At least, in the military, we had comradship, when one got promoted we bought the person a beer to celebrate and we looked after each other. But in the private sector, all you see is people who become angry with the person who got promoted because of envy and people, in office politics stabbing each other in the back to get ahead, lying to each other. No comradship or loyalty, unlike serving in a combat unit in the military. I miss that about my old unit. The comradship and it brought happiness.
 
ManOfTrueTruth said:
I'm not a soldier right now.
And you never were.
If I don't want to answer questions I don't have to.
You're not the boss of me.
I am not so concerned if I am taken seriously by EVERYBODY here, can't be friends with everybody can I?
Fine, but do you understand the difference between EVERYBODY and NOBODY?
I wouldn't have any principles if I was friends with everybody. It's not BS what I am saying, that I can assure you.
Friggin liar. I'm telling steen.
I have served.
Bullshit.
As crazy as it might sound to you, I am capable of thinking for myself and developing my own views, even though I was once a soldier.
Certain fields in the military not only encourage these skills but TRAIN you for them. But you wouldn't know that, would you?
Maybe you were a robot when you were a soldier and never developed your individuality or thoughts or views,
Yea buddy. I'm well known around here for my lack of individuality.
even though I did follow orders as any good soldier should do.
A soldier would never say that.
And if you are not on a witch hunt for "terrorists" then I guess you are on a witch hunt for supposed "liar."
Bingo. teacher's one man crusade to expose you. Oh, don't you doubt I will be relentless, obsessive, never wavering, you might just say I will "stay the course".
You haven't caught anybody bro.
So I caught a nobody.
If my word is not good enough for you then you should just ignore me and go about your business, I would prefer that you did.
Keep wishing in that hand, you know what the other one is filling up with.
Really, I think you are somebody who is insecure about himself.
Oh yea, that's my problem.

Now how about some more questions? You get a hash mark for how much time in service? What is the rank of the man nicknamed "top"? What is an SQT test? What is the slotted device at the end of a M-16 called?
 
Suit yourself teacher, I shall, ignore you then. So, PeacefulMuslim, as you can see from the example of teacher here, we do have alot of ignorant assholes who enjoy a good witch hunt and cannot tolerate a difference of opinion, skin color or difference of religion.
 
Now how about some more questions? You get a hash mark for how much time in service? What is the rank of the man nicknamed "top"? What is an SQT test? What is the slotted device at the end of a M-16 called?

Easy there teach.....this ol' sailor can only answer half of that myself.:shock:

But lemme guess....

1. four (years served honorably.)
2. My buddy who I shoot with is called "Top" I believe he was a Master Sargeant in the Marines. Was I right? In the Navy, we call him, "Master Chief."
3. In the Navy...... it means,
SQT Seal Qualification Training (US Navy)
SQT Ship Qualification Trials
SQT Ship's Qualification Trial/Test
4. I'm guessing a "sight?":rofl (Never fired or trained on an M-16. Now, if you wanna talk C.I.W.S., we have something to discuss.;) )

I'm not saying dude was a liar at all. I haven't a clue. But I do have to agree that nothin' pisses me off more than a wanna be soldier or someone falsely misrepresenting their service in the military.
 
Captain America said:
Easy there teach.....this ol' sailor can only answer half of that myself.:shock:

But lemme guess....


2. My buddy who I shoot with is called "Top" I believe he was a Master Sargeant in the Marines. Was I right? In the Navy, we call him, "Master Chief."

And in the army they call him First Sergent. SPORTS: Slap the magazine, Pull the Forward Assist, Oberserve inside the chamber, Release the charging handle, Tap the forward assist, Squeeze the trigger. SPORTS.
 
ManOfTrueTruth said:
Really, I am bored with my private sector job and am unhappy. It's a great paying private sector job, buy money simply can't buy you happiness. So, I am thinking about joining back up in the military and perhaps I will be sent to Iraq to go and fight for the evil machine, but in my mind, I will not be fighting for a flag but for the men in my unit. At least, in the military, we had comradship, when one got promoted we bought the person a beer to celebrate and we looked after each other. But in the private sector, all you see is people who become angry with the person who got promoted because of envy and people, in office politics stabbing each other in the back to get ahead, lying to each other. No comradship or loyalty, unlike serving in a combat unit in the military. I miss that about my old unit. The comradship and it brought happiness.

I thought we went over you trying to play entry level psychology games with me. You are not that smart. You can't answer simple military questions yet you go into a big spiel about camaraderie and beer. You're obviously trying to convince us you served with that generic bullshit anyone can make up. But you can't answer my questions. You just made it worse, not better. Was that a little desperation there? You are against this war yet you say you will go to Iraq and kill Muslims? That is so pathetic. You are very poor at this indeed. Dig that hole MOTT. This just keeps getting funner. Yea, let's play psych games.

Which side is your nametag on in Class A's?

It's like I found a little lost puppy sleeping on my porch. He thinks he's a big dog but it's gonna take some training to teach him who's boss. Poor little puppy, you were never a guard dog, you just miss your momma's teat. Just admit you're a puppy and (in the voice of the abominable snowman) I'll love you and hold and squeeze you and feed you and take care of you and bath you and spank you when your bad and read to you and make you a home and call you my own. Cause I own you MOTT. Saying you served when you didn't was a mistake.
 
Teach, why are you goading and baiting this poster?

Go easy on the coffee bro!:rofl

Is goading really a word? I'm not sure. :confused:

It sounded cool though. :3oops:
 
Captain America said:
Easy there teach.....this ol' sailor can only answer half of that myself.:shock:

But lemme guess....

1. four (years served honorably.)
2. My buddy who I shoot with is called "Top" I believe he was a Master Sargeant in the Marines. Was I right? In the Navy, we call him, "Master Chief."
3. In the Navy...... it means,
SQT Seal Qualification Training (US Navy)
SQT Ship Qualification Trials
SQT Ship's Qualification Trial/Test
4. I'm guessing a "sight?":rofl (Never fired or trained on an M-16. Now, if you wanna talk C.I.W.S., we have something to discuss.;) )

I'm not saying dude was a liar at all. I haven't a clue. But I do have to agree that nothin' pisses me off more than a wanna be soldier or someone falsely misrepresenting their service in the military.

Yea Cap, but you were a sailor. Not a soldier. My questions are geared that way. You know, sight would work actually. I was going for flash suppressor. Top in the Army is the First Seargent. Same difference. Skills Qualification Test, or something like that.

I am saying the dude is a liar. And now he's going to ignore me. How convenient. What would you do if you were stone cold busted?

Close In Weapon System. That sucker is BAD. See, an old dog face can talk Navy, yet this (explicative deleted) can't answer simple soldier questions. Yea bro, he was never in the service, I'd put money on it now. Glad to see you feel the same way about that as I do. I think that is common to those who have served. I think I'm making the best case I can with what I have to work with.

Enjoy the show.
 
teacher said:
I thought we went over you trying to play entry level psychology games with me. You are not that smart. You can't answer simple military questions yet you go into a big spiel about camaraderie and beer. You're obviously trying to convince us you served with that generic bullshit anyone can make up. But you can't answer my questions. You just made it worse, not better. Was that a little desperation there? You are against this war yet you say you will go to Iraq and kill Muslims? That is so pathetic. You are very poor at this indeed. Dig that hole MOTT. This just keeps getting funner. Yea, let's play psych games.

Which side is your nametag on in Class A's?

It's like I found a little lost puppy sleeping on my porch. He thinks he's a big dog but it's gonna take some training to teach him who's boss. Poor little puppy, you were never a guard dog, you just miss your momma's teat. Just admit you're a puppy and (in the voice of the abominable snowman) I'll love you and hold and squeeze you and feed you and take care of you and bath you and spank you when your bad and read to you and make you a home and call you my own. Cause I own you MOTT. Saying you served when you didn't was a mistake.

I'm not the one who is playing psych games. Teacher man, go get laid, have a beer and try to enjoy life for a little. Not all veterans go back into the military to fight for God and Country ok? Some of us do it because it's the only thing we know and it's the only thing that we are happy doing. I remember, I had a Vietnam Veteran as a tank commander, very standoffish kind of guy, (btw, that would be 19 kilo in case you are wondering as far as the MOS classification). We would come accross blowed up villages. Muslim villagers telling all kinds of horror stories about their families being killed (and they were being truthful), mass graves (just like in Iraq) and of course I watched one of my 40 year old grown men of a Sergent cry like a baby, because the place wore on him after awhile. We began to learn that the US government basically lied and covered up alot of **** in Bosnia and acted as accomplices to genocide. When we began to see that, our Vietnam Vet tank commander began to speak more about his experiences in Vietnam, because he knew, we wouldn't be ready to hear the truth until we seen it ourselves in Bosnia and that is why he remained so silent for so long. He aslo talked about how the blowed up villages in Bosnia gave him flashbacks of blowed up villages, which were destroyed by our own soldiers in Vietnam. I do plan on going back into the military, but like the Vietnam Vet, I will not tell my honest political views to other soldiers who do not know better, I will be going in and I will follow orders to go to Iraq if necessary because as a soldier, my opinion doesn't matter. I won't be fighting for a flag or for King or God or country, I will be fighting to come home to my family, for my own self preservation and for the preservation of the guys in my unit. That's all that matters teach.
 
ManOfTrueTruth said:
I'm not the one who is playing psych games. Teacher man, go get laid, have a beer and try to enjoy life for a little.
That's me, always serious.
(btw, that would be 19 kilo in case you are wondering as far as the MOS classification).
Okay.
We would come accross blowed up villages. Muslim villagers telling all kinds of horror stories about their families being killed (and they were being truthful), mass graves (just like in Iraq) and of course I watched one of my 40 year old grown men of a Sergent cry like a baby, because the place wore on him after awhile. We began to learn that the US government basically lied and covered up alot of **** in Bosnia and acted as accomplices to genocide.
You lost me there. This was all over the news. Accomplices in genocide? Bullshit. We went to war to stop that. And that's where this little train wreck started.
 
ManOfTrueTruth said:
And in the army they call him First Sergent. SPORTS: Slap the magazine, Pull the Forward Assist, Oberserve inside the chamber, Release the charging handle, Tap the forward assist, Squeeze the trigger. SPORTS.

Got Sports wrong. Any soldier knows you don't PULL A FORWARD ASSIST. You pull the charging handle (or whatever it's called) so the bolt clears the chamber so you can see if a round is jammed. Reading shi*t on a web site and understanding it is two different things it appears.

And you spelled seargent wrong.

I asked those questions yesterday.
 
teacher said:
That's me, always serious.
I know, that's part of your problem, you need to not be so serious and relax a little, life's too short to worry so much.

Okay.
You lost me there. This was all over the news. Accomplices in genocide? Bullshit. We went to war to stop that. And that's where this little train wreck started.

I hate to break your world view as America being the perfect country but I still have to tell the truth, the news that you saw was the rated G version of what happenned over their and what the news didn't tell you was how UK diplomat Lord David Owen, US diplomat Charles Redman basically were trying to force the Muslims in Bosnia to accept a carve up of most of their land, taken via genocide, which was nothing more than a death warrant that was trying to be forced upon Bosnia's Muslims. Dayton Accords was the carve up that achieved the extremely unfair and unjust partitioning of Bosnia when all of this could have been easily avoidable. Not to mention, Pentagon spokesman Pete Williams came on TV and stated that their was no "evidence of a planned program to massively target innocent civilians" when in fact their was and the Clinton Adminstration, before Pete Williams statements, knew all this, but chose to lie and cover up what was really going on in Bosnia in order to keep political pressure from being raised on the Clinton Adminstration to do something about the genocide, so he lied and denied what was in fact really going on, and their was well over 100 Nazi like death camps with Muslims in them in Bosnia at the time, all being taken pictures by US spy planes for 3 years. 3 years, the US government stood aside and did nothing and chose to lie and cover up what was going on in Bosnia in it's effort to avoid sending troops to Bosnia. The reason, in my view, was because their was no oil or interests and that is what makes the world go round: money, oil and interests. The people in the US government do not value life, they value their own lives or perhaps the lives of their family but other than that, they do not value the lives of others.
 
Clinton would also say one thing but do another, and he can break all links to wrong doing, by letting diplomats like Charles Redman do all the dirty work for them. Charles Redman was Clinton's diplomatic hit man.
 
hey Cap, pass me the popcorn...you want some snowcaps or a pepsi?
 
ManOfTrueTruth said:
I know, that's part of your problem, you need to not be so serious and relax a little, life's too short to worry so much.

You wouldn't know sarcasm if it hit you in the face. Go lurk in the basemnet a while. You'll see how serious I am.

I hate to break your world view as America being the perfect country but I still have to tell the truth, the news that you saw was the rated G version of what happenned over their
G version? I saw lots of destroyed villages, mass graves, crying children, bodies rotting in the streets, stories of mass rapes to dilute the races, the men slaughtered, torture, you name it. It that the G-version that I heard?

and what the news didn't tell you was how UK diplomat Lord David Owen, US diplomat Charles Redman basically were trying to force the Muslims in Bosnia to accept a carve up of most of their land, taken via genocide, which was nothing more than a death warrant that was trying to be forced upon Bosnia's Muslims. Dayton Accords was the carve up that achieved the extremely unfair and unjust partitioning of Bosnia when all of this could have been easily avoidable. Not to mention, Pentagon spokesman Pete Williams came on TV and stated that their was no "evidence of a planned program to massively target innocent civilians" when in fact their was and the Clinton Adminstration, before Pete Williams statements, knew all this, but chose to lie and cover up what was really going on in Bosnia in order to keep political pressure from being raised on the Clinton Adminstration to do something about the genocide, so he lied and denied what was in fact really going on, and their was well over 100 Nazi like death camps with Muslims in them in Bosnia at the time, all being taken pictures by US spy planes for 3 years. 3 years, the US government stood aside and did nothing and chose to lie and cover up what was going on in Bosnia in it's effort to avoid sending troops to Bosnia. The reason, in my view, was because their was no oil or interests and that is what makes the world go round: money, oil and interests. The people in the US government do not value life, they value their own lives or perhaps the lives of their family but other than that, they do not value the lives of others.

You sound like you think we were right to go to Bosnia. Is that so in Iraq too?

So if there were no interests then why did we go?
 
You know, going to Bosnia was kinda like the scene out of Star Wars where Luke Skywalker finds out for the first time that his father was the infamous villian Darth Vader all along and how shocked and shattering it was for Luke. We've done some bad things in the world Teach, whether you care to admit to it or not. Fortunately for Darth Vader, he had a good son that saved him in the last episode.
 
Peaceful Muslim said:
I do not live where all those actions took place so i can't tell if they were
Do you actually live in the Middle East PeacefulMuslim?

If so... no newspapers where you live? No radio? No television? No satellite media? No Internet? Don't you find it a bit strange that the Arabic media could cover the Muslim riots, lootings, and arsons 27/7, yet not deliver a word on any consequences of this lawlessness?

Surely there must be legal and religious consequences for this type of very 'un-Islamic' behavior as you yourself deemed it to be? Muslims are highly insulted by a Danish cartoon yet dismiss this 'un-Islamic' and barbaric behavior among their brethern? How do you expect non-Muslims to respect Islamic teachings when Muslims themselves do not practice what they preach? How can I respect Islam if Muslims themselves disrespect it without consequence?

Can you not recognize this hypocracy Peaceful Muslim? It is the same hypocracy you utilize with Hamas. It is un-Islamic and forbidden by Islam to kill civilians you say. Yet you excuse this supposed un-Islamic Hamas behavior because it suits your political agenda... just as the arson and looting has been excused because it suits a similiar political agenda.

You're going to have to do much better than the short one-line disclaimer you delivered above PeacefulMuslim.
 
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