LOL!!
After four years of that puppet spouting off someone else's words...badly...you now want to talk about Trump's words??
This is the height of hypocrisy, dude.
So now the billionaire globalists are under the GOP tent currying favor with the leader instead of on the outside looking in..There is a new puppet coming into office. Billionaire globalists are the puppeteers in. Trump will dance for them. He will speak like them.
He is setting US foreign policy back 100 years.
Makes me hope Trump is out of the picture before the Northwest Passage becomes a viable route between Asia and Europe.Welcome to human-produced climate change. Get used to it.
Finally the source of the beef. Illegals are coming across the Panama Canal!
The Guatemalans, Costa Ricans, Salvadorans, Nicaraguans, Hondurans and Mexicans are going the wrong way!
The DictatorTyrants in Beijing that's who.So now he's whinging about fees and it falling into the wrong hands, which are whose exactly?
So essentially what China has been doing throughout most of Latin America and Africa.The DictatorTyrants in Beijing that's who.
Chinese Challenge in Panama
The Panama Canal, built by the United States more than a century ago, has long been a linchpin of projecting influence and defending America’s interests in the Western Hemisphere. Now, the People’s Republic of China has its eyes on undermining the U.S.-Panama relationship. Beijing’s chosen...www.heritage.org
During my 10 years living and working in the CCP-PRC (until 2022) I was taken to meet so many CCP members who with their families were learning Spanish. All of 'em were on the CCP's assignment to take their families to Panama to become permanent residents then citizens of Panama.
The CCP goal from Beijing is to have its steady stream of CCP operatives and their families into Panama to become Panamanian in every aspect of life in the society, economy, government. To take control of the Panama Canal without firing a shot. This is a long view plan the CCP in Beijing began in the 1990s.
Presently there are 200,000 Chinese living and working in Panama among its measly 4.3m population. With CCP money and influence these CCP Chinese are very welcome. In fact in 2017 Panama changed its diplomatic recognition to Beijing and got out from Taiwan. this was flipping the finger at the United States.
From the link....
As far back as the 1990s, China had begun positioning itself at either end of the Panama Canal by winning contracts to establish container ports run by Chinese state-owned companies. Recently, China has strengthened its presence in the country by beginning construction of a fourth, $1.42 billion bridge over the canal. Funded by BRI, the work is being done by Chinese state-owned companies. A recent report from the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies noted, “China is not only exporting steel and concrete [through BRI projects], but also corruption, opacity, and waste. These features are not incidental side effects of working in countries where graft is already endemic, but rather an upside for China.”
The US Southern Command modest military force of some Army, a few Marines, hardly any Navy and some Air Force is too little and too late to have prevented the CCP from verging on control of the Panama Canal. It will take a much larger and stronger USA diplomatic and military presence to neutralize the CCP in Central and South America which is the Area of Responsibility of the Command that has scared nobody.
So...there IS a method to Trump's "madness" and it's all about national security.The DictatorTyrants in Beijing that's who.
Chinese Challenge in Panama
The Panama Canal, built by the United States more than a century ago, has long been a linchpin of projecting influence and defending America’s interests in the Western Hemisphere. Now, the People’s Republic of China has its eyes on undermining the U.S.-Panama relationship. Beijing’s chosen...www.heritage.org
During my 10 years living and working in the CCP-PRC (until 2022) I was taken to meet so many CCP members who with their families were learning Spanish. All of 'em were on the CCP's assignment to take their families to Panama to become permanent residents then citizens of Panama.
The CCP goal from Beijing is to have its steady stream of CCP operatives and their families into Panama to become Panamanian in every aspect of life in the society, economy, government. To take control of the Panama Canal without firing a shot. This is a long view plan the CCP in Beijing began in the 1990s.
Presently there are 200,000 Chinese living and working in Panama among its measly 4.3m population. With CCP money and influence these CCP Chinese are very welcome. In fact in 2017 Panama changed its diplomatic recognition to Beijing and got out from Taiwan. this was flipping the finger at the United States.
From the link....
As far back as the 1990s, China had begun positioning itself at either end of the Panama Canal by winning contracts to establish container ports run by Chinese state-owned companies. Recently, China has strengthened its presence in the country by beginning construction of a fourth, $1.42 billion bridge over the canal. Funded by BRI, the work is being done by Chinese state-owned companies. A recent report from the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies noted, “China is not only exporting steel and concrete [through BRI projects], but also corruption, opacity, and waste. These features are not incidental side effects of working in countries where graft is already endemic, but rather an upside for China.”
The US Southern Command modest military force of some Army, a few Marines, hardly any Navy and some Air Force is too little and too late to have prevented the CCP from verging on control of the Panama Canal. It will take a much larger and stronger USA diplomatic and military presence to neutralize the CCP in Central and South America which is the Area of Responsibility of the Command that has scared nobody.
Not really, because if the canal were his real concern he'd be more interested in what's the direct threat right now, which is the continual drought that's making its viability more at risk. The canal isn't at risk from China, and if you think that's the case then most of the developing world and its resources are.So...there IS a method to Trump's "madness" and it's all about national security.
Sounds good to me.
So...there IS a method to Trump's "madness" and it's all about national security.
Sounds good to me.
Trump has bungled Panama as much as any president before him has done.So...there IS a method to Trump's "madness" and it's all about national security.
Sounds good to me.
Don't know. Wait and see.So what is Trump planning to do?
That's not his style.A Granada type operation where he has soldiers parachute into the control stations on either side of the canal and oust the Chinese so that Americans could take control?
No, at least not while there are other ways to deal with the situation.Would you support that?
So essentially what China has been doing throughout most of Latin America and Africa.
This has joined the list of famous last words from the instant you typed it out.Not really, because if the canal were his real concern he'd be more interested in what's the direct threat right now, which is the continual drought that's making its viability more at risk. The canal isn't at risk from China, and if you think that's the case then most of the developing world and its resources are.
Yes, it is all military power which we should match.I think the die was cast a while ago, and China has had a lot to do with it. We can certainly question the wisdom of MAGA's combative, antagonistic foreign policy, but it's not in a vacuum. Xi made the decision to assert Chinese power in a far more direct manner than any of his predecessors.
If the Northwest Passage becomes a viable route for commerce in the 21st century, are you going to blame Trump because he quit the useless Paris Climate Accord?Makes me hope Trump is out of the picture before the Northwest Passage becomes a viable route between Asia and Europe.
What? What the hell are you on about?If the Northwest Passage becomes a viable route for commerce in the 21st century, are you going to blame Trump because he quit the useless Paris Climate Accord?
Yes, it is all military power which we should match.
Not to mention space and cyber capabilities.
Maybe, Maybe not. However, if we're thinking about the threat from China in the context of their efforts in the developing world for the past couple of decades, then there's more than just the Panama Canal to be worried about. We're talking about access to resources in the aforementioned region, as well as business partnerships and investments that have given China a pretty good footing throughout the world.This has joined the list of famous last words from the instant you typed it out.
As I mentioned in my response to @Tangmo, the challenge for the US is how to respond effectively given China's narrative throughout the developing world is one that features them as investors and developers compared to the US being an exploiter and extractor. The Chinese have not expanded military bases in host countries or been involved with coup d'etats that I know of. That's the pitch and it's been effective compared to the long history of the US to the contrary.Yes, except instead of pretending that the neoliberal world order is going to work things out, because after all we never went to war with a country that has a McDonald's, this administration is signaling we're not going to tolerate another world power having even anything close to equal influence in the Western Hemisphere. We're putting China on notice, and we're putting Latin America on notice as well. If we're smart, we'll bring some carrots with us and not merely rely on Teddy Roosevelt's big stick. As it stands now, that big stick is not prepared to produce the kinds of weaponry fast enough to engage in regular stick-waving, which is going to be another priority of MAGA 2.0.
This is a fair point, and I for one do take Russia's concerns into consideration. The problem with Russia is it hasn't made it easy for itself as being a good neighbor either. The reality for Russia is it will forever have western aligned nations at its doorstep; something it just recently increased by the inclusion of Finland and Sweden into NATO as a direct result of his Ukraine invasion.Now, taking the above into consideration, let's apply this to the war in Ukraine. If we can fully acknowledge our own historical policy in dealing with Lat-Am nations, and if we're so scared of China's growing influence in our backyard, then maybe we can begin to empathize with Vladimir Putin's Russia when they see the growing influence of the United States when he looks out their own back window. I have no doubt - zero - that if we ever reached the point of believing that China's influence anywhere in the Western Hemisphere was becoming too great, we would exact consequences for China *and* for any nation that's deemed to be cooperating with them. There's just too much history to say otherwise. That doesn't make Russia's invasion any less illegal or barbaric, but realpolitik has always been a thing long before it became a fashionable term in political science circles.
I think they've been doing just that. By expanding their influence through the markets, they have been able to secure resources for themselves using the very same methodology as western nations do. It makes it hard to argue that China shouldn't be able to expand the way the US has for decades. I am curious to see how all of this works out, because fighting off the efforts for a multi polar world won't be easy.Smart diplomacy necessarily means having the ability to empathize with your enemy, even if you don't agree with them. Failing to understand their point of view as they see it inevitably leads to provincialism and cultural chauvinism...and deluded foreign policies that leads to disastrous, irreversible foreign policy errors. If China is smart, they'll proceed more cautiously. If they're not, and if they think they're ready for a real confrontation, then they won't, and we'll likely fight a proxy war or two over it. If they're lucky, the clash is quick and it's a simple regime change. If not, then it's possible that whatever nation dares to befriend China gets left in ruins, making them an example for others to see.
I vote shock collar.Someone needs to put a muzzle on Trump!
The story doesn’t say what set him off, maybe they are eating house pets too?
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