NO streets and roads is a FUNCTION OF GOVERNMENT. That's MAINTAINING.
INFRASTRUCTURE!
Which is meddling in the market. A free market would have private forces produce, build, maintain and replace roads. That isn't what happens here. We have massive central planning that dictates which roads are built, where by whom and to specification. Eisenhower established one of the largest central planned government projects in US history. But you like to cherry pick and say that's not meddling despite clear intervention into the market system of demand and supply.
Thanks for proving my point. You declare what you don't like to be meddling and what you do like not to be meddling
despite both actions on the part of government to intervene into the free market. In developing countries we don't see government meddling in road systems, it's one reason why corporations are often hesitant to offshore as they often have to pay for capital improvements. In the US, the government intervenes into the market and does it itself rather then letting the market produce the desired amounts of roads, where, when, and to what specification. The railroad system of America is a good example of where government didn't intervene and meddle, letting corporations and certain individuals turn into robber barons by ponying up the capital, building it themselves and maintaining it out of their own pockets. The current road system of America is a massive intervention into the free market.
Infrastructure is meddling. You just cherry pick to suit your poorly designed arguments.
Telling a business how to function to meet a political goal for a politician or group (party) is meddling.
See the difference?
There is no difference. Government intervention into the free market is meddling. You just declare what you like to be not meddling and declare what you don't like to be meddling. Explain to me how government regulations on road safety, grades, material etc is
not meddling, especially when it affects interstate commerce and huge amounts of people. You won't because you cherry pick. If you like it, it's not meddling. If you don't it is meddling. It's kind of like activist judges. You declare judges who's decisions you disagree with to be activists, yet you don't for judges who rule how you like. Actual Constitutional relevance is irrelevant. That's cherry picking.
Now, you haven't proven anything other then the fact you are stuck on the minutia of your own argument.
Lol. Keep thinking that way. And you'll keeping losing arguments.
Seriously are you that incapable of keeping up that you need me to spell out when I say "government meddling" on a topic that you cannot COMPREHEND what's being discussed?
Where have I shown I haven't comprehended the subject? And you have a long history of doing exactly what I have stated.
We talk about say the Video Game Market, as here, and you think I'm making a blanket statement about all government action in economic matters from the roads to the size of holes in swiss cheese to wages and tariffs.... WOW you seriously do don't you?
Actually I was pointing out again that you constantly fail to seperate what I have stated. Cherry picking. If it's government action you like in the market, not meddling. If it is not, that's meddling. Furthermore, you are quite wrong on central planning, which I see you have abandoned. Furthermore,
I'm still waiting for the answer, are you illiterate or a liar?
My arguments only lose you OC... cause you cannot keep up with the rest of us obviously. You're the only one that gets confused. Perhaps you should avoid economic discussions if it is that confusing a topic for you.
HAHAHHAHAha. Says the one who abandons threads extremely quickly. I pointed out in another economic thread that your post on gasoline taxes was quite false as the firms who are making record profits are largely not involved at the time of gasoline sales to the public where the taxes are heavy. You fled that thread after I pointed out you were peddling misleading 'facts.' Furthermore, I've stated several times how the GSA act repealed by the GOP led to the current mess yet you still seem to love to blame just the Democrats.
Rich coming from you.
Government is supposed too, and I've said this over and over and over again, SET THE TABLE for economic success. So I've addressed this before, you refuse to admit it.
Where? :rofl
Why would I get upset at the Government for FIGHTING A WAR? That's in the Constitution... that's the Governments job make sure if we gotta fight a war we win... WWII required... the entire country to get involved to win it...
Thanks for proving my point. If you like the action, it's not meddling. WWII production orders severely interfered with normal free market operations. Furthermore, the mandatory conservation of specific materials like nylon and steel as well as beef and pork was massive meddling in the free market system. Nothing about that on your part.
You cherry pick what gets to be put into meddling and what doesn't. That is pretty obvious to everyone. I don't see you decrying the GOP's desire to meddle with tax rates. That's meddling in the free market. C-h-e-r-r-y P-i-c-k-i-n-g.
(now if you are talking about FDR "New Deal" BS that's a whole different discussion now isn't it. OR is that another topic that's too hard for you to understand there is a difference?)
If you bothered to do any work at all in any subject of your life, you would have noticed I was on that thread too. I unlike you, don't rely on such tactics. Specifically that article about the alleged failure of the New Deal leaves out some rather important discussion points, largely the issue of free trade. Given how integrated the US was during the 20s, no discussion on the lack of free trade undermines its position. The US was reliant of a direct 20% of its economy on trade. Multipliers of indirect spending could possibly have the economy as a whole of 60% reliant on trade. No discussion of that is extremely suspect. But you wouldn't know anything about that aspect would you? :rofl
Damn imagine that. See above. :mrgreen:
You THINK you're witty and cool, you THINK you have something on me OC. No you're just screaming and yelling about a non-point and are the only one that thinks you are "winning" any argument with me on this.
So either admit, you've been wrong the whole time trying to hound me on this, cause you have been, or leave it alone cause... frankly I'm trying to have discussions on issues that matter, not please your inability to stay on topic and comprehend the discussion at hand.
Blah, blah, blah. I'm not the cherry picker.
How about you admit that central planning in history has worked, you admit that you cherry pick what is defined as "meddling" and you actually admit that the GOP repealed key aspects of the GSA?
Not going to happen. You never admit you're ever wrong on anything.
So, you going to answer my question:
Which is it? Illiterate or a liar?