NOBODY is THE answer, folks...

Passions get high during a presidential election year, and we all have our favorites... but lets not get ahead of ourselves.

No individual candidate is THE answer to ALL our problems, or even most of them.

The power of the Presidency is considerable, but it has considerable limits as well. There are another 500-some Congresscritters who have to have their say, not to mention bureaucrats who have been empowered to regulate this and that autonomously.

Then there are lobbyists, interest groups, corporate influence, and the actions of foreign nations and the international markets.

Not to mention SCOTUS, state governments, and the simple human cussheadedness of millions of individuals.


Odds are, no individual we send to DC is going to be our salvation.... nor, individually and all by himself, our downfall. Even the entire government, on those rare occasions when they are largely unified about something, has its limits.



Gov can help or hinder, aid or blunder, but it is those of us who get up every morning and go to work and take care of our families and live our lives who largely make or break our own America.

So what I'm saying is, live your life. Sure, be involved in politics, write your Congresscritter, vote and all that... but don't give yourself a stroke over it or worry yourself into a heart attack. It isn't worth it. Go out and work, make as much money as you can, spend some, save some, take care of those who are dependent on you, and have some fun too. Buy American when you can but don't obsess over it. Give somebody a hand up when you get a chance; put in an afternoon working for a charity if you can't afford to give any money. Whoever is sworn in as Prez on Jan20 2012, the sun will still rise on Jan21.

Just do your thang, do something for others, cast your vote, and otherwise don't let it make you bust a blood vessel....


Come meet the new boss, same as the old boss....

Great post, as usual.

Well put Goshin!

Dayum...could it be that DP has become a beacon of civil discourse...one can hope

While the sentiment is nice, I don't agree with taking such a lackadaisical approach to politics. I personally don't think, "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" applies to the Presidency. As much as people try to say Obama is "Bush lite", he isn't for many reasons. And Newt Gingrich is nothing like Obama. Romney, while somewhat like Obama, is still what I believe to be a threat to Americans. Policies that welfare, taxes, healthcare, gay rights and so on are pretty damn important, so while I won't be busting blood vessels over it, I can't empathize with, "Whoever is sworn in as Prez on Jan20 2012, the sun will still rise on Jan21." While it's true in a literal sense, the phrase is a bit too carefree for me when I think about all the implications that having a Republican president will have for this country.

I agree. Nobody is the answer. 42 is the answer.
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ThePlayDrive said:

While the sentiment is nice, I don't agree with taking such a lackadaisical approach to politics. I personally don't think, "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" applies to the Presidency. As much as people try to say Obama is "Bush lite", he isn't for many reasons. And Newt Gingrich is nothing like Obama. Romney, while somewhat like Obama, is still what I believe to be a threat to Americans. Policies that welfare, taxes, healthcare, gay rights and so on are pretty damn important, so while I won't be busting blood vessels over it, I can't empathize with, "Whoever is sworn in as Prez on Jan20 2012, the sun will still rise on Jan21." While it's true in a literal sense, the phrase is a bit too carefree for me when I think about all the implications that having a Republican president will have for this country.

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I survived Nixon and Watergate, Ford, Carter and the "Energy Crisis", Mutually Assured Destruction, more Mideast "crisis" than I can count, Reagan, BushI, Clinton, BushII and Obama. My folks talked about the Great Depression and FDR, WW2, Truman, Johnson, Kennedy and the assassination, and the many times we've seemed to be on the edge of disaster.

We're still here.

Things have changed, sure; some for the worse, some for the better. The pendulum swings one way, then the other.

Do I have my list of preferred candidates for Prez? Sure. Will I be disappointed if someone I don't like is Prez on Jan 20th? Sure.

But in the long run it probably isn't going to turn my world upside down. Perspective.

Goshin said:

Come meet the new boss, same as the old boss....

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There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.

Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.

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ric27 said:

The best candidates don't want the hassle of running. The media scrutiny while giving the far left candidate a pass on almost everything as well as what's probably a pay cut don't make most of them want to throw their hat in the ring.​

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Hahahah. Yeah, the far left candidates "get a pass" on everything. That's why there's such an overwhelming majority of far-left Democrats in office, right? No, really, the country is mostly conservative but somehow the media is all far-left because magic or something!

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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss... but is the president really the boss? He is the boss of who?

not Congress.
not the people.
No, we, the people are his boss, as we are Congress' boss.

The new and old bosses shouldn't expect great changes regardless of who we let live in the White house.

and we shouldn't expect any major changes without also changing Congress.

and changing the D to an R or vice versa is not really much of a change.

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Passions get high during a presidential election year, and we all have our favorites... but lets not get ahead of ourselves.No individual candidate is THE answer to ALL our problems, or even most of them.

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You are 100% correct. The biggest reason for this is that the CANDIDATES are not the problem. Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Green, Tea Party, etc.... makes no difference because it is the SYSTEM that has become so completely and totally out of whack that it no longer bears any resemblence to anything of substance or decency. That is why no candidate(s), no matter how morally or ideologically pure they might be can fix the problems we are having. The only thing that will fix the problems is a revolt of The People.

Imo, the only thing that's going to help this country get back on a course which is capable of allowing our long term survival, is not in who is president, nor who is in congress, but in the populace as a whole, getting back to some individual personal responsibility and strength of character. We have slowly morphed into a country who believes that the entire survival of a nation can rest on the shoulders of relatively few people paying for the support of the entire system. We have a glut of takers, and not enough givers. If we don't have a national change of heart, we won't be economically stable enough to stay intact in the future. It's not a leadership problem, but a masses problem.

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You are 100% correct. The biggest reason for this is that the CANDIDATES are not the problem. Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Green, Tea Party, etc.... makes no difference because it is the SYSTEM that has become so completely and totally out of whack that it no longer bears any resemblence to anything of substance or decency. That is why no candidate(s), no matter how morally or ideologically pure they might be can fix the problems we are having. The only thing that will fix the problems is a revolt of The People.

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And doing away with all the queers, commies, facsists, pinko's, Jews, Chrsitians, Muzzies, libbies, neocons, and whomever else deserves on that list.. Wait.. Crap that won't work.. So which "people" will revolt, and to where do the spoils go?


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Hicup said:

And doing away with all the queers, commies, facsists, pinko's, Jews, Chrsitians, Muzzies, libbies, neocons, and whomever else deserves on that list.. Wait.. Crap that won't work.. So which "people" will revolt, and to where do the spoils go?

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The True Conservatives, and at the end those who are left have two choices: Get with the program or get the hell out of the country.

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The True Conservatives, and at the end those who are left have two choices: Get with the program or get the hell out of the country.

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The revolt must happen in the republican party, NOT the nation. Right now as I see establishment republican pundants, strategists et al all squirming talking about downing the congress if Uncle Newt is chosen as the GOP candidate is making me sick to my stomach. I am fast becoming one of those independants that is claiming that I didn't leave the party, the party left me. This all coming from the intelligencia that chose McCain and what happened with that? Oh yeah, we lost 8 seats in the senate, and 30 in the house in 08 .. We need to provide American's with a clear contrast between conservative and liberal. We don't get that with Romney, we never had a chance with McCain, but we do with Newt. Newt ain't perfect, and he does have big ideas that border on insane, but he is a conservative to the core, and he's NOT afraid to stick it to the likes of the establishment in Washington! If I were Newt's advisor I'd say run with this narrative all the way to the Presidency.


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Hicup said:

The revolt must happen in the republican party, NOT the nation. Right now as I see establishment republican pundants, strategists et al all squirming talking about downing the congress if Uncle Newt is chosen as the GOP candidate is making me sick to my stomach. I am fast becoming one of those independants that is claiming that I didn't leave the party, the party left me. This all coming from the intelligencia that chose McCain and what happened with that? Oh yeah, we lost 8 seats in the senate, and 30 in the house in 08 .. We need to provide American's with a clear contrast between conservative and liberal. We don't get that with Romney, we never had a chance with McCain, but we do with Newt. Newt ain't perfect, and he does have big ideas that border on insane, but he is a conservative to the core, and he's NOT afraid to stick it to the likes of the establishment in Washington! If I were Newt's advisor I'd say run with this narrative all the way to the Presidency.

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The Republican Party (which I am not and never have been a member of), does not have the intestinal fortitude to promote and/or nominate a truly Conservative candidate. It hasn't in my lifetime (I'm 37). In my mind Newt doesn't even meet my standard of Conservatism.

Tigger said:

The Republican Party (which I am not and never have been a member of), does not have the intestinal fortitude to promote and/or nominate a truly Conservative candidate. It hasn't in my lifetime (I'm 37). In my mind Newt doesn't even meet my standard of Conservatism.

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I'll get straight to the point. A truly conservative candidate?...I think, you'll only see *it* on paper

There are 2 choices (really)

1 - Liberals who want to turn America into a "social democracy" like England as an example. You can expect payroll taxes in excess of 80% if these folks get their way. Socialized health care that will work just like the VA does now, except if your rich, then you get whatever you want. Removal of personal firearms ownership. Marginalization of Christianity in favor of whatever politically correct fad happens to be in vogue. Continued destruction of what I describe as "American white male culture", for lack of any better terminology. A Clinton'isk lack of foreign policy that boarders on isolationism, and a pacifistic non-reaction to any attack on America or American interests....and

2 - Conservatives who want to preserve Christianity.

Everything else is up for grabs with those folks.

Tigger said:

The Republican Party (which I am not and never have been a member of), does not have the intestinal fortitude to promote and/or nominate a truly Conservative candidate. It hasn't in my lifetime (I'm 37). In my mind Newt doesn't even meet my standard of Conservatism.

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how about Ron Paul?

Dittohead not! said:

how about Ron Paul?

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I love Ron Paul. Most conservatives that I know, can't stand the man for some reason. I think it's because alot of them have bought into the big government idea as long as they are getting a monthly check.

Dittohead not! said:

how about Ron Paul?

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Dr. Paul is not a True Conservative in my mind. He gets part of the way their with much of his Economicideology, but he fails on the Social Conservatism side so far as I'm concerned; as witnessed to by his and his son's little airport incident the other day.