Nihilists a/k/a "Climate Activists" derail U.S. Tennis Open

[OrphanSlug]

That is true, but no other form of protest seems to be really getting the message through, and we don't have nearly as much time to respond to ecological crisis as we believe. That is the point of their desperation.

Just so I am clear on this... disrupting a tennis game, throwing soup, and gluing themselves to streets while having hysterical crying fits will get "the message through?"

It is not desperation, they are signs of needing to see a mental health expert.

 

[multivita-man]

Just so I am clear on this... disrupting a tennis game, throwing soup, and gluing themselves to streets while having hysterical crying fits will get "the message through?"

I didn't say that it gets the message through. In fact, I pretty much acknowledge that it doesn't. I'm saying all other rational forms of protest are clearly not working, so from the vantage point of the protesters, disruptive forms of protest seem to be the only other choice.

Just so we're clear on this: human-caused climate change is going to wreck human civilization unless we take dramatic action to stop it. It's not the protesters who need an attitude adjustment; it's probably 99% of the population, which includes people who think of themselves as being climate-change aware.

 

[OrphanSlug]

I didn't say that it gets the message through. In fact, I pretty much acknowledge that it doesn't. I'm saying all other rational forms of protest are clearly not working, so from the vantage point of the protesters, disruptive forms of protest seem to be the only other choice.

Just so we're clear on this: human-caused climate change is going to wreck human civilization unless we take dramatic action to stop it. It's not the protesters who need an attitude adjustment; it's probably 99% of the population, which includes people who think of themselves as being climate-change aware.

This is why very little will change, even where you do find some degree of common ground there is no interest in that. "Dramatic action" or nothing, odds are you'll get nothing when you are done telling even those who agree we can make changes that they still failed the litmus test.

 

[multivita-man]

This is why very little will change, even where you do find some degree of common ground there is no interest in that. "Dramatic action" or nothing, odds are you'll get nothing when you are done telling even those who agree we can make changes that they still failed the litmus test.

The topic isn't Medicare for All. It's the future habitability of our planet. Something in between isn't an option. I know that doesn't make sense now, but it might in, oh, 5-10 years - 20 max.

 

[OrphanSlug]

The topic isn't Medicare for All. It's the future habitability of our planet. Something in between isn't an option. I know that doesn't make sense now, but it might in, oh, 5-10 years - 20 max.

Double down, triple down, and/or find some soup to throw... does not matter... you are avoiding the issue which is alarmism and "dramatic action" or nothing, you will see nothing but have plenty to be upset about.

 

[multivita-man]

Double down, triple down, and/or find some soup to throw... does not matter... you are avoiding the issue which is alarmism and "dramatic action" or nothing, you will see nothing but have plenty to be upset about.

ok

 

[PoS]

I didn't say that it gets the message through. In fact, I pretty much acknowledge that it doesn't. I'm saying all other rational forms of protest are clearly not working

And they will never work, for one very big reason. Care to guess what that is?

 

[Loulit01]

The list of excuses to do nothing is endless. I think it's great the U.S. Open was disrupted, but it's just a sporting event. We need to ramp things up to Vietnam War protest levels.

 

[Mach]

It's on someone's private property.

So run them off, get the cops to run them off. Life happens. Some people shoot kids who knock on their doors but have the wrong address, are you one of those?

 

[watsup]

So, we're talking a few tenths of a decree?

Over an entire atmosphere. How large is the lower portion of the atmosphere where the warming is occurring. Just a little bit of extra warmth over that area can indeed cause potential problems. Are you saying that global warming is not occurring?

 

[Visbek]

The above article (link in text shows that "climate activists" will stop at nothing to disrupt and derail society.

Throwing confetti on a tennis court is "derailing society?" Are you even trying to be serious?

Mind you, I don't care for some of the protester's tactics. For some bizarre reason, that doesn't trigger me into ascribing inaccurate and histrionic motives to them. I wonder why?

The "activists" glued themselves to the stadium, endangering themselves, others and law enforcement. The event that was disrupted was the Women's Semifinals. Wimbledon was similarly disrupted, as has bridge traffic.

HOLY F*****K S**T NOOOOOO!!!!

Oh, wait. Most of this is garden-variety protests. They aren't actually damaging anything, not even the stadiums to which they glue themselves, but they sure got your attention. And that's the point.

When will society stand up for itself?

Yes, I also often wonder when affluent Western societies are going to get a grip to the massive damage they've done, and continue to do, to the environment.

Meanwhile, the semi-finals and finals have been played in hot weather...

Wow, you are deeply unclear on the concept. The idea that "there was a hot day in 1964, therefore the climate isn't changing," is utterly moronic. Lemme help you out here:

 

[Bullseye]

Over an entire atmosphere. How large is the lower portion of the atmosphere where the warming is occurring. Just a little bit of extra warmth over that area can indeed cause potential problems. Are you saying that global warming is not occurring?

Your really have no concept at all, do you. Since I've answered our question at least ten times, I'll make it a bet easier for your:

Yes, the atmosphere IS GETTING WARMER. Clear enough?

 

[Bullseye]

Throwing confetti on a tennis court is "derailing society?" Are you even trying to be serious?

Mind you, I don't care for some of the protester's tactics. For some bizarre reason, that doesn't trigger me into ascribing inaccurate and histrionic motives to them. I wonder why?


HOLY F*****K S**T NOOOOOO!!!!

Oh, wait. Most of this is garden-variety protests. They aren't actually damaging anything, not even the stadiums to which they glue themselves, but they sure got your attention. And that's the point.


Yes, I also often wonder when affluent Western societies are going to get a grip to the massive damage they've done, and continue to do, to the environment.


Wow, you are deeply unclear on the concept. The idea that "there was a hot day in 1964, therefore the climate isn't changing," is utterly moronic. Lemme help you out here:

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So your charge shows a whooping about a 1.2C temperature change since 1850.

I don't see the baseline for the chart.

 

[JBG]

The climate cult will be a major world terrorist threat in the near future. Bet on it.

Aren't they already?

 

[JBG]

I didn't say that it gets the message through. In fact, I pretty much acknowledge that it doesn't. I'm saying all other rational forms of protest are clearly not working, so from the vantage point of the protesters, disruptive forms of protest seem to be the only other choice.

Just so we're clear on this: human-caused climate change is going to wreck human civilization unless we take dramatic action to stop it. It's not the protesters who need an attitude adjustment; it's probably 99% of the population, which includes people who think of themselves as being climate-change aware.

I get it; the climate activists have to win no matter what?

 

[multivita-man]

I get it; the climate activists have to win no matter what?

What do you think the climate activists win?

 

[watsup]

Your really have no concept at all, do you. Since I've answered our question at least ten times, I'll make it a bet easier for your:

Yes, the atmosphere IS GETTING WARMER. Clear enough?

And a few tenths of a degree can make a big difference given the size of the lower portion of the atmosphere: "Air is easily compressed, so the atmosphere becomes :squashed" by the effect of gravity. This results in the bulk (80%) of the atmosphere being in the troposphere, occupying a volume of about 6 × 10 to the ninth.

Earth, atmosphere

atmosphere, which include, in ascending order, the troposphere, the stratosphere, the mesosphere, the thermosphere, and the exosphere.

www.daviddarling.info

That is a huge volume, and that is why a relatively small change in temperature can have a large effect.

Please quit making standard denier talking points and try to do some research before you post.

 

[watsup]

So your charge shows a whooping about a 1.2C temperature change since 1850.

See post #42.

 

[Bullseye]

And a few tenths of a degree can make a big difference given the size of the lower portion of the atmosphere: "Air is easily compressed, so the atmosphere becomes :squashed" by the effect of gravity. This results in the bulk (80%) of the atmosphere being in the troposphere, occupying a volume of about 6 × 10 to the ninth.

Earth, atmosphere

atmosphere, which include, in ascending order, the troposphere, the stratosphere, the mesosphere, the thermosphere, and the exosphere.

www.daviddarling.info

That is a huge volume, and that is why a relatively small change in temperature can have a large effect.

Please quit making standard denier talking points and try to do some research before you post.

Pure nonsense. Maybe if the compression happened all at once but over 150 years - not so much. Some of that heat continues off into space, of course.

 

[Bullseye]

See post #42.

Saw it, couldn't stop laughing. You do know that much of that heat goes back out into space, right? GHG reflects only a small percentage.

 

[JBG]

And a few tenths of a degree can make a big difference given the size of the lower portion of the atmosphere: "Air is easily compressed, so the atmosphere becomes :squashed" by the effect of gravity. This results in the bulk (80%) of the atmosphere being in the troposphere, occupying a volume of about 6 × 10 to the ninth.

Earth, atmosphere

atmosphere, which include, in ascending order, the troposphere, the stratosphere, the mesosphere, the thermosphere, and the exosphere.

www.daviddarling.info

That is a huge volume, and that is why a relatively small change in temperature can have a large effect.

Please quit making standard denier talking points and try to do some research before you post.

See post #42.

What is obvious her is that this is religion, not science. The true believers want to throttle back human activity and look for reasons to do it. Their tactics are childish, such as gluing feet to athletic facilities.

 

[zincwarrior]

I say leave them there until someone comes along to unstick them and carry on as usual. If they get injured or killed, well stupid should hurt.

Didn't VW do that? They got into a plant or showroom and the staff just turned everything off and left.

 

[PoS]

What do you think the climate activists win?

A bankrupt Earth with a technology of the Middle Ages.

 

[flogger]

Stopping Tennis to Call Attention to Climate Change​

The above article (link in text shows that "climate activists" will stop at nothing to disrupt and derail society. The "activists" glued themselves to the stadium, endangering themselves, others and law enforcement. The event that was disrupted was the Women's Semifinals. Wimbledon was similarly disrupted, as has bridge traffic.

When will society stand up for itself?

Meanwhile, the semi-finals and finals have been played in hot weather, which some news sources claim is unprecedented for New York. Not so fast. On Sunday, September 11, 1983 is was 99° on the day of the Men's Finals in New York City. I can't recall whether it was 1985 or 1989, but similar, not quite as severe conditions prevailed. This is not at all new or unprecedented.

There is nothing wrong with US temperatures today with the 1930s being clearly the warmest decade and the great bulk of US state temperature records being set before 1960.

These eco brainwashed idiots are only doing what they have been programmed to do all their lives ... bring down the West by whatever means possible

 

[JBG]

There is nothing wrong with US temperatures today with the 1930s being clearly the warmest decade and the great bulk of US state temperature records being set before 1960.

These eco brainwashed idiots are only doing what they have been programmed to do all their lives ... bring down the West by whatever means possible

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I hate to nit-pick but at least one of those numbers is wrong; NYS's record was in 1936, set in Troy, New York. NYC had a record the same day, July 9, two degrees lower. On the flip-side many of the more recent records are ties of old records. Many daily records are flukes, such as in Mays of 1962 (99°) and 1969 (97°) in NYC, when a back-door cold front triggered northwesterly winds the day before that: a) downsloped, chinook style; and b) held oceanic influences totally at bay. Records do tend to be one-day wonders, weakening their importance for this argument. Total days over 90° in a month or season are better indicators, and those are also essentially trendless.