NFL pledges to halt ‘race-norming,’ review Black claims

[Steve N]

On one hand I commend the NFL for correcting their assumption that blacks have a lower cognitive function than non black players. What I am surprised is they used this race based assumption to save money, or maybe I shouldn't be.

On the other hand, I'm also surprised the ultra woke NFL even had this policy in place to begin with and why no one has really heard about it prior to just recently. How such a race based policy on cognitive function could have been kept in the closet all these years is an indication, at least to me, how strong the NFL's media department is in keeping control of what is and isn't published in the news.

https://apnews.com/article/pa-state...4d1d/gallery/11e0217417fb42309fa611a509876248

PHILADELPHIA (AP) — The NFL on Wednesday pledged to halt the use of “race-norming” — which assumed Black players started out with lower cognitive function — in the $1 billion settlement of brain injury claims and review past scores for any potential race bias.

The practice made it harder for Black retirees to show a deficit and qualify for an award. The standards were created in the 1990s in hopes of offering more appropriate treatment to dementia patients, but critics faulted the way they were used to determine payouts in the NFL concussion case.

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[Deuce]

Racists will chime in about rejecting science and it will never occur to them that the "black people have lower IQ" research is faulty science.

 

[Hypothetical]

Well this was a stupid policy. I also am surprised it existed if it were merely an assumption. What they should have done is establish a base at the beginning and middle of their careers to go off of, for each player. That would also allow better knowledge about the injuries themselves.

 

[Phys251]

On one hand I commend the NFL for correcting their assumption that blacks have a lower cognitive function than non black players. What I am surprised is they used this race based assumption to save money, or maybe I shouldn't be.

On the other hand, I'm also surprised the ultra woke NFL even had this policy in place to begin with

You obviously haven't heard of a man named Roger Goddell or what he does.

 

[Fishking]

On one hand I commend the NFL for correcting their assumption that blacks have a lower cognitive function than non black players. What I am surprised is they used this race based assumption to save money, or maybe I shouldn't be.

On the other hand, I'm also surprised the ultra woke NFL even had this policy in place to begin with and why no one has really heard about it prior to just recently. How such a race based policy on cognitive function could have been kept in the closet all these years is an indication, at least to me, how strong the NFL's media department is in keeping control of what is and isn't published in the news.

https://apnews.com/article/pa-state...4d1d/gallery/11e0217417fb42309fa611a509876248

How about they just do brain scans before and after? No need to bother with anything else.

 

[JasperL]

How about they just do brain scans before and after? No need to bother with anything else.

But they didn't do the 'before' brain scans, so the policy couldn't possibly assume they'd happened, and you can't go back in time.

It's part of a years' long effort by the NFL to first not pay out anything to former players, and now to reduce the payouts based on indefensible assumptions that blacks have a higher bar than whites to prove damage. If might be true for a given player, but they cannot assume that kind of nonsense, obviously.

 

[Steve N]

You obviously haven't heard of a man named Roger Goddell or what he does.

Yeah, he’s the guy who strong armed the Rams into drafting a gay player, you know, make them woke.

 

[JasperL]

Yeah, he’s the guy who strong armed the Rams into drafting a gay player, you know, make them woke.

That costs owners nothing. The payouts are very expensive. The owners care about the payouts not whether some player is gay or not, and who can be fired or his contract cancelled at any time. The 'woke' is the show to protect what really matters - for years screwing players from settlements for injuries sustained in their little game for billionaire owners.

 

[Steve N]

That costs owners nothing. The payouts are very expensive. The owners care about the payouts not whether some player is gay or not, and who can be fired or his contract cancelled at any time. The 'woke' is the show to protect what really matters - for years screwing players from settlements for injuries sustained in their little game for billionaire owners.

She asked if I knew who Goddell was and I responded.

 

[Steve N]

Irrelevant lie. Sam didn't play, nor did he want to be held to a different standard than straight players.



Steve is under the delusion that the misgendering card actually works.

He got drafted after the league pressured the Rams to do so. He was too small to play the line and too slow to play LB.

Where did I lie and what is this misgender thing you’re talking about? Did Sam identify and one of the special recently included letters in the bowl of alphabet soup?

 

[Phys251]

Yeah, he’s the guy who strong armed the Rams into drafting a gay player, you know, make them woke.

Irrelevant lie. Sam didn't play, nor did he want to be held to a different standard than straight players.

She asked if I knew who Goddell was and I responded.

Steve is under the delusion that the misgendering card actually works.

 

[Phys251]

He got drafted after the league pressured the Rams to do so. He was too small to play the line and too slow to play LB.

Where did I lie and what is this misgender thing you’re talking about? Did Sam identify and one of the special recently included letters in the bowl of alphabet soup?

You were obviously talking about me. I am a man.

 

[bomberfox]

Racists will chime in about rejecting science and it will never occur to them that the "black people have lower IQ" research is faulty science.

Usually such people dont understand heritability either

 

[HangLow]

On one hand I commend the NFL for correcting their assumption that blacks have a lower cognitive function than non black players. What I am surprised is they used this race based assumption to save money, or maybe I shouldn't be.

On the other hand, I'm also surprised the ultra woke NFL even had this policy in place to begin with and why no one has really heard about it prior to just recently. How such a race based policy on cognitive function could have been kept in the closet all these years is an indication, at least to me, how strong the NFL's media department is in keeping control of what is and isn't published in the news.

https://apnews.com/article/pa-state...4d1d/gallery/11e0217417fb42309fa611a509876248

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[eohrnberger]

On one hand I commend the NFL for correcting their assumption that blacks have a lower cognitive function than non black players. What I am surprised is they used this race based assumption to save money, or maybe I shouldn't be.

On the other hand, I'm also surprised the ultra woke NFL even had this policy in place to begin with and why no one has really heard about it prior to just recently. How such a race based policy on cognitive function could have been kept in the closet all these years is an indication, at least to me, how strong the NFL's media department is in keeping control of what is and isn't published in the news.

https://apnews.com/article/pa-state...4d1d/gallery/11e0217417fb42309fa611a509876248

Play stupid woke games, win stupid woke prizes (like falling audience and fans buying tickets).
Guess the NFL didn't like those outcomes. changing direction. Better late than never I guess.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Racists will chime in about rejecting science and it will never occur to them that the "black people have lower IQ" research is faulty science.

Do you have any examples of this?

 

[Deuce]

Do you have any examples of this?

The problem rests with the very nature of IQ tests being a proxy for things not actually related to some innate, genetic "intelligence."

 

[jnug]

It took the NFL this long to give up on Eugenics based cognitive analysis? Worse, in some quarters it appears that the medical profession is still pushing Eugenics based opinions in this country. Nice

Lets here from more of those:
Racism does not exist any longer in America posters
Systemic Racism does not exist in this country posters

What an embarrassment. Once again I have to say that its EMBARRASSING to me to be White which is not to say that I desire being something other than White. Its still embarrassing regardless. If it were not so sad it would be funny.

 

[j brown's body]

On one hand I commend the NFL for correcting their assumption that blacks have a lower cognitive function than non black players. What I am surprised is they used this race based assumption to save money, or maybe I shouldn't be.

On the other hand, I'm also surprised the ultra woke NFL even had this policy in place to begin with and why no one has really heard about it prior to just recently. How such a race based policy on cognitive function could have been kept in the closet all these years is an indication, at least to me, how strong the NFL's media department is in keeping control of what is and isn't published in the news.

https://apnews.com/article/pa-state...4d1d/gallery/11e0217417fb42309fa611a509876248

2020. Three hundred and one years since 1619.

 

[reflechissez]

Play stupid woke games, win stupid woke prizes (like falling audience and fans buying tickets).
Guess the NFL didn't like those outcomes. changing direction. Better late than never I guess.

That doesn't make sense.

 

[Fishking]

But they didn't do the 'before' brain scans, so the policy couldn't possibly assume they'd happened, and you can't go back in time.

It's part of a years' long effort by the NFL to first not pay out anything to former players, and now to reduce the payouts based on indefensible assumptions that blacks have a higher bar than whites to prove damage. If might be true for a given player, but they cannot assume that kind of nonsense, obviously.

Couldn't they use things like college grades and such for that? Seems like there would be plenty of data to use for how well they performed previously since they have all gone to college.

 

[jnug]

Couldn't they use things like college grades and such for that? Seems like there would be plenty of data to use for how well they performed previously since they have all gone to college.

Cognitive function and test scores are not the same thing. This is too simple and it points out how RACIST we are in this country and how unscrupulously the NFL treats its black players.

All you need is a scan and a record of brain function. Electroencephalography, or EEG, is probably the second-best known technique for recording neural activity. fMRI records blood flow, a proxy of neuron activity, EEG directly records the brain's electrical activity via electrodes placed on the scalp of the subject.

Get a baseline from multiple scans from people who have never taken multiple head shots like those endured by NFL players. Get scans for every NFL player before they join the NFL and its done. The damage from these hits is so pronounced if it occurs (AND IT ALWAYS DOES) that even though fMRI and EEG are not perfect the damage will surely be exposed.

This is yet another embarrassment. Lets hear more about how Racism is a thing of the past.

 

[craig]

Do you have any examples of this?

We are all mixed race. Test yourself.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

2020. Three hundred and one years since 1619.

Math better.

 

[Variant]

How about they just do brain scans before and after? No need to bother with anything else.

Perhaps in the future they will.