(Newsweek) JB Pritzker Looking at Prosecuting ICE Agents in Chicago

[Deuce]

It's funny how many right wingers are showing up here getting angry about the idea of enforcing the law.

 

[Deuce]

The fat slob thinks he's in charge of ICE now?

Oh look, another right winger who thinks the law doesn't apply to ICE.

 

[Chomsky]

I’ve never had to document my business in any courthouse building.

Go through a metal detector and I’m inside. A judge arbitrarily denied access to public spaces inside a court house to law enforcement.

I suppose that may vary.

 

[Chomsky]

The fat slob thinks he's in charge of ICE now?

He's responsible for prosecuting criminal behaviour. He's doing his job.

 

[Variant]

It's funny how many right wingers are showing up here getting angry about the idea of enforcing the law.

Right wingers have always had the tendency to think that certain people should be subject to a different standard of law than others.

 

[Variant]

Yeah. That's what he's doing. uh huh. He's totally sincere.
Being on the wrong side of issues now will not help him in a National election.
Calling Antifa and criminal illegals "my people" was stupid as was making believe there is no violence in Chicago and at the ICE facility.
And standing on the Monroe Street bridge to shoot a video about how peaceful Chicago is with his own personal security off camera is simply a lie.
And for a big gambler like him, stupid bets.

What he's doing is standing up for the rule of law for the citizens of Chicago against an overreaching executive that is mad with power and looking to cause problems in his city.

You know, his job. I'm never going to fault a politician for doing their actual job, even if they are doing it for the sake of politics.

You know who is not doing their job correctly? The President of the United States, whose authority has never been to try to police American cities and declare fake emergencies to try to get around the law.

 

[Chomsky]

The document is linked to in the article.

It was produced by the Immigration Court. They are the ones who rule on questions of legal residency in the USA.

There is no "Judicial Immigration Court". These are administrative hearings, administrative actions - nothing more. ICE makes their own pronouncements.

That is all false.
People who are specifically being picked up by ICE have had all those opportunities.
And lost in court.

Those picked up in raids are detained until their status is determined. Again, via the courts.

No. ICE is grabbing random individuals on the streets, citizens & illegals alike.

 

[OpportunityCost]

You absolutely can do that. Qualified immunity doesn't protect officers who had reason to believe their actions were violating constitutional liberties. The 4th amendment supersedes any orders the president might have, and no reasonable person could believe ICE agents are not aware of the 4th amendment.,

That's false due to them carrying out what are right now lawful orders and orders that are within the scope of their duties. Qualified immunity is a two-part test, and they pass both of them. You cannot sue them after the fact or charge them but, you can sue the federal government for the orders and how they were carried out.

I can see going after individual officers for things like the pepper ball shooting incident. I do think that is targeted and into assault territory.

 

[Linc]

It’s all Martial Law using the Supreme Court to the unitary presidency.
Keep track of the federal court chaos caused by this criminal cartel/cabal.

Poorly-prepared ICE personnel as all can see, grabbing that $50k bonus.
Hidden from ID, they could be pardoned J6 Proud Boys and that ilk.

Military from a southern GOP state going to a northern DEM state.
Military stationed near our sacred Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery, now turned into a war zone.

 

[OpportunityCost]

There is no "Judicial Immigration Court". These are administrative hearings, administrative actions - nothing more. ICE makes their own pronouncements.

Kinda.

The Immigration Court System, Explained

Most immigrants facing deportation are entitled to a hearing before an immigration judge, but their legal rights differ from those in criminal cases.

www.brennancenter.org

 

[OpportunityCost]

Qualified immunity only protects law enforcement from lawsuits dealing with the officer engaged in his legal duties.

It has no bearing on criminal charges.

That is false. It protects from criminal charges as well.

 

[Chomsky]

That is false. It protects from criminal charges as well.

The immunity is predicated upon ICE lawfully performing their prescribed duties.

I suspect there's some wiggle-room, there. Pritzker may find it.

 

[Paradoxical]

He's responsible for prosecuting criminal behaviour. He's doing his job.

O M GGG! Now ICE are the criminal for arresting the criminals??? WHERE if the efff do you guys come up with this crap from? AOC? Joy Reid? Davey Crockett?

 

[Chomsky]

O M GGG! Now ICE are the criminal for arresting the criminals??? WHERE if the efff do you guys come up with this crap from? AOC? Joy Reid? Davey Crockett?

Where ICE acts in a criminal or extra-Constitutional manner, absolutely they should be prosecuted. Just as we prosecute other LEO's guilty of criminal behaviour.

No American is above the law Paradoxical , not even the President (as we saw).

 

[cpwill]

I understand if you are afraid

Bro, I'm not the one in here freaking out that WE ARE UNDER ATTACK and ITS A CIVIL WAR because a political spokesperson said not nice things about me.

 

[Tigerace117]

Sorry, linking to some left wing article is not evidence of anything. I don't take reading assignments. Actually, you only posted to another thread. I have no idea what you are basing your claims on. Seems like just your opinion.

In other words you don’t want to face up to what ICE is doing, so you won’t.

Sorry dude, blind denial can’t change the facts

 

[Tigerace117]

The fat slob thinks he's in charge of ICE now?

Trump cultists trying to call anyone else fat is deeply comical.

Have you looked at your Dear Leader lately?

 

[Paradoxical]

Trump cultists trying to call anyone else fat is deeply comical.

Have you looked at your Dear Leader lately?

Pritzker could eat all the food in a Vegas buffet and still be hungry for a baby pig for lunch. He's an obese Marxist who is a billionaire who wants criminals coddled and everyone else to risk being stabbed, raped or killed.

 

[Tigerace117]

Pritzker could eat all the food in a Vegas buffet and still be hungry for a baby pig for lunch. He's an obese Marxist who is a billionaire who wants criminals coddled and everyone else to risk being stabbed, raped or killed.

Hysterically shrieking “Marxist” at anyone who dares to oppose your Dear Leader remains comical.

Especially since literally nobody in Chicago wants the military deployed here to help Trump’s Gestapo wannabes

 

[Deuce]

That's false due to them carrying out what are right now lawful orders

It doesn't matter what your orders are if you violate the 4th amendment.

 

[Buster Keaton]

JB Pritzker looking at prosecuting ICE agents in Chicago

Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker has suggested that state prosecutors might examine the conduct of ICE agents.

www.newsweek.com

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Illinois Governor Pritzker is attempting to build criminal cases against individual ICE agents and administrators, both currently and after a change of administrations.

We need to remember, besides his billionaire and governor status, he is a member of the Illinois Bar and the recipient of a Northwestern University J.D.

Consequently, Pritzker's singing a constant mantra to the public of, "document, document, document".

He implores this mantra at virtually every public appearance, and it appears he, the States Attorneys, and the City Corporation Counsel, are now sitting on an ever growing trove of video and other evidence submitted by the public and news orgs.

Pitzker is thought to be in the running for the Dem '28 Presidential nomination. But to be honest, he might best serve the American public interest as U.S. Attorney General.

Regardless - Pritzker is unambiguous in his words to the Administration, DHS, and ICE:

"The tables will turn one day"

Pritzker reminds me of a sleazy used car salesman

 

[Buster Keaton]

Has Pritzker ever read our constitution?

 

[Tigerace117]

Has Pritzker ever read our constitution?

We already know your Dear Leader hasn’t.

It’s debatable whether he can read

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Oh look, another right winger who thinks the law doesn't apply to ICE.

Some think the law doesn’t apply equally to Procecuters like Letitia James.

 

[Deuce]

Some think the law doesn’t apply equally to Procecuters like Letitia James.

She hasn't broken the law. It's just Trump's lawfare against his political enemies.

If there was enough evidence for an actual case against James, Trump wouldn't have had to force his prosecutors to file charges.