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New York Attorney General asks judge to hold Donald Trump in contempt for refusing to turn over documents

dcsports said:
That's not the issue here. And no, the judge doesn't have to 'just accept it'. The judge will make the AG to to the correct parties for the records though. Attorneys are responsible for accuracy in their filings.

Again (and this is according to the article in the OP - I haven't read the filing) - James is asking Trump {personally) for financial records related to properties owned and managed by the Trump Organization (the business). Trump's attorney's are saying that he doesn't personally maintain any of these documents - she needs to subpoena the company.
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Really?
Trump doesn't know where financial documents relating to a Trump organisation is?

That's his defense?

How stupid does he think everyone is?
 
TomFitz said:
Own your own words for once.
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you mean like he didn't when he said he would leave the board if "x" happened and then "x" happened and he's still here?
 
I have a feeling he'd find them pretty quickly if someone offered to buy them for $1b.
 
Peter said:
Really?
Trump doesn't know where financial documents relating to a Trump organisation is?

That's his defense?

How stupid does he think everyone is?
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It's not a matter of 'knowing where' they are, but having custody of the documents. And no, he probably doesn't know specifically where 10+ year old financial documents are - he'd have to go to his company as well. Again, he hasn't actively worked with the company on a day to day basis in 6 years. He lives and 'works' in Florida. Yes, he could probably tell someone at his company to pull copies of the documentation and send it to Leticia James, but there's no reason for him to help her or make it easier. Her staff should do their job correctly.
 
dcsports said:
It's not a matter of 'knowing where' they are, but having custody of the documents. And no, he probably doesn't know specifically where 10+ year old financial documents are - he'd have to go to his company as well. Again, he hasn't actively worked with the company on a day to day basis in 6 years. He lives and 'works' in Florida. Yes, he could probably tell someone at his company to pull copies of the documentation and send it to Leticia James, but there's no reason for him to help her or make it easier. Her staff should do their job correctly.
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I'm sure he can get his hands on them quickly if he can be bloody bothered but he can't and is thus in contempt of court.
If a court asks you to do something and you willfully don't then you face consequences and even Trump can't avoid those unless you feel he's above the law.
 
Peter said:
I'm sure he can get his hands on them quickly if he can be bloody bothered but he can't and is thus in contempt of court.
If a court asks you to do something and you willfully don't then you face consequences and even Trump can't avoid those unless you feel he's above the law.
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Why so much emotion here? This isn't even a criminal case.


It's not up to Trump to hunt down records that he doesn't have. Much of the responsibility is on the plaintiff to ask for the right records from the right people. (And remember, this is a civil case - it's up to the AG to prove her case.)

The AG asked for the records - and the judge signed of on the order. Trump responded. It's up to the Judge to decide if that's adequate, or provide additional instruction. Chances are, the judge is going to tell the AG to draft a new subpoena to the business for these business records.
 
dcsports said:
Why so much emotion here? This isn't even a criminal case.


It's not up to Trump to hunt down records that he doesn't have. Much of the responsibility is on the plaintiff to ask for the right records from the right people. (And remember, this is a civil case - it's up to the AG to prove her case.)

The AG asked for the records - and the judge signed of on the order. Trump responded. It's up to the Judge to decide if that's adequate, or provide additional instruction. Chances are, the judge is going to tell the AG to draft a new subpoena to the business for these business records.
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Any normal person with any business being asked the same questions would not receive the same leniency as Trump has been.
Trump has throughout his life completely ignored court orders to do things and people like you have defended him at every step, it's beyond tiresome.

The courts have asked to see his tax information and he's blocked and stalled for years and your side has backed him and claimed it's all a witchhunt.
Trump thinks he's above the law and Conservatives are willing to go along with his fantasy.
 
dcsports said:
It's not a matter of 'knowing where' they are, but having custody of the documents. And no, he probably doesn't know specifically where 10+ year old financial documents are - he'd have to go to his company as well. Again, he hasn't actively worked with the company on a day to day basis in 6 years. He lives and 'works' in Florida. Yes, he could probably tell someone at his company to pull copies of the documentation and send it to Leticia James, but there's no reason for him to help her or make it easier. Her staff should do their job correctly.
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No one carry's Trumps water as well as you..
 
Peter said:
Any normal person with any business being asked the same questions would not receive the same leniency as Trump has been.
Trump has throughout his life completely ignored court orders to do things and [ad hominem remark removed]
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First, no person has ever been targeted in the same way Trump has been.

Second, this is a civil suit. These drag out. Back and forth on discovery is pretty normal. Trump isn't ignoring the subpoena - he actually responded to it. He doesn't have to make it easy. The AG is responsible for doing her job, and making specific requests.

Peter said:
The courts have asked to see his tax information and he's blocked and stalled for years [ad hominem remark removed]
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Tax info you are just throwing in there - that's not the issue here. It was democrats in congress asking for that information.

Peter said:
Trump thinks he's above the law and Conservatives are willing to go along with his fantasy.
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This is a process that the AG chose to follow. What "conservatives" want or are "willing to go along with" is irrelevant.
 
HenryChinaski said:
No one carry's Trumps water as well as you..
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Again, the ad hominem remarks are unnecessary. I was pointing out Trump's response - and that it's likely an appropriate one. I don't know if the lawsuit is justified or not, but the AG is clearly struggling to make a case.
 
tres borrachos said:
He certainly is contemptible.

  • New York Attorney General Letitia James asked a judge to hold former President Donald Trump in contempt of court for refusing to comply with an order to turn over documents for her investigation of his company.
  • James also asked the judge to fine Trump $10,000 for every day he fails to surrender those documents.
  • The AG’s office says in a court filing that Trump is in violation of a court order to give her investigators the documents by March 31.
  • James is investigating the Trump Organization in connection with how that company reported the values of various real estate assets.
More here. Let's see how this goes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/07/new...empt-for-refusing-to-turn-over-documents.html
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SkyChief said:
Trump should simply say the documents which the AG seeks cannot be found.

Which he did:

Trump also said that subject to his objections ’he would not produce any documents” responsive to the subpoena” because his lawyer said that none of the documents could be found, the filing said. (from the CNBC article)
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Did he check his bedroom closet???
 
Trumpers:

"Well, if you can't find something then you're not really responsible for it are you? Zero responsibility!"
 
SkyChief said:
Trump should simply say the documents which the AG seeks cannot be found.

Which he did:

Trump also said that subject to his objections ’he would not produce any documents” responsive to the subpoena” because his lawyer said that none of the documents could be found, the filing said. (from the CNBC article)
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My dog ate my homework then?
 
"How can he be responsible for something he can't find?!

Innocent!!11!!"
 
noonereal said:
Can you pay a $10,000 a day fine from contributions? Will it ever be paid at all?
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Will it really matter one way or another to trump???
 
I've said it many times before, if you want a bubble gum wrapper from Trump, he'll fight to the end to keep it from you just to make you spend your money to get nothing. Every document that Democrats have finally gotten their hands on has turned out to be a zero burger.

Meanwhile, Durham is closing in on The Witch and her f-lying monkeys.
 
If you can't find documents then you get totally exonerated. That's the law. He's totally exonerated.
 
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