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New Strains Of COVID Could Render Vaccines Completely Useless

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Like all flu and cold viruses this one of Covid-1984 permanently mutated, a vaccine is impossible. Are we to dumb to accept an useless gen manipulated jab which destroy our immune system and makes us defenseless against another viruses?


What if all of the assumptions that people are making about this COVID pandemic are completely wrong? When Pfizer announced that they had developed a successful vaccine for COVID, the world cheered. And then when Moderna announced that they had developed a successful vaccine for COVID, the world cheered even more. But COVID has been mutating, and scientists assure us that it will keep mutating. So what happens if the vaccines that are being developed end up being completely useless against new mutant strains of the virus? Would that put us all the way back to square one (or even worse)? To put this problem into perspective, let’s talk about the flu for a moment. Every year, health authorities come up with a flu vaccine that they think will be effective against the variation or variations of the flu that they believe will be dominant in that particular year. Most people simply assume that a “flu shot” will provide them with complete protection against “the flu”, but that is actually not true at all. In some years the match between the flu vaccine and the variations of the flu that are running around is pretty good, and some years that is definitely not the case. The following comes from the official CDC website
During years when the flu vaccine is not well matched to circulating influenza viruses, it is possible that little or no benefit from flu vaccination may be observed. During years when there is a good match between the flu vaccine and circulating viruses, it is possible to measure substantial benefits from flu vaccination in terms of preventing flu illness and complications. However, even during years when the flu vaccine match is good, the benefits of flu vaccination will vary, depending on various factors like the characteristics of the person being vaccinated, what influenza viruses are circulating that season and even, potentially, which type of flu vaccine was used.
At this point, Pfizer and Moderna both seem convinced that their vaccines will be effective against the dominant strain of COVID that is currently sweeping across the globe.
But what if a new strain becomes dominant?
In Denmark, a new strain of COVID that is being passed to humans from minks was considered to be so dangerous that the government actually announced that they would kill all 17 million minks in the entire nation

The government of Denmark shocked the world a few days ago when it announced it would slaughter as many as 17 million minks in the country, effectively destroying the entire mink fur industry in the country. The officials opted for this radical option because of the novel coronavirus, as the pathogen developed a potentially dangerous mutation inside the captive mink population. Reports from the country said that the mutated coronavirus has already infected at least 12 people. Researchers are worried that the new strain might be so dangerous that it could effectively render the current COVID-19 vaccine candidates useless. A new report now delivers more troublesome news, as some researchers think that the mutated coronavirus strain has pandemic potential. Others, meanwhile, are calling for calm.

 

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Like all flu and cold viruses this one of Covid-1984 permanently mutated, a vaccine is impossible. Are we to dumb to accept an useless gen manipulated jab which destroy our immune system and makes us defenseless against another viruses?


What if all of the assumptions that people are making about this COVID pandemic are completely wrong? When Pfizer announced that they had developed a successful vaccine for COVID, the world cheered. And then when Moderna announced that they had developed a successful vaccine for COVID, the world cheered even more. But COVID has been mutating, and scientists assure us that it will keep mutating. So what happens if the vaccines that are being developed end up being completely useless against new mutant strains of the virus? Would that put us all the way back to square one (or even worse)? To put this problem into perspective, let’s talk about the flu for a moment. Every year, health authorities come up with a flu vaccine that they think will be effective against the variation or variations of the flu that they believe will be dominant in that particular year. Most people simply assume that a “flu shot” will provide them with complete protection against “the flu”, but that is actually not true at all. In some years the match between the flu vaccine and the variations of the flu that are running around is pretty good, and some years that is definitely not the case. The following comes from the official CDC website
During years when the flu vaccine is not well matched to circulating influenza viruses, it is possible that little or no benefit from flu vaccination may be observed. During years when there is a good match between the flu vaccine and circulating viruses, it is possible to measure substantial benefits from flu vaccination in terms of preventing flu illness and complications. However, even during years when the flu vaccine match is good, the benefits of flu vaccination will vary, depending on various factors like the characteristics of the person being vaccinated, what influenza viruses are circulating that season and even, potentially, which type of flu vaccine was used.
At this point, Pfizer and Moderna both seem convinced that their vaccines will be effective against the dominant strain of COVID that is currently sweeping across the globe.
But what if a new strain becomes dominant?
In Denmark, a new strain of COVID that is being passed to humans from minks was considered to be so dangerous that the government actually announced that they would kill all 17 million minks in the entire nation

The government of Denmark shocked the world a few days ago when it announced it would slaughter as many as 17 million minks in the country, effectively destroying the entire mink fur industry in the country. The officials opted for this radical option because of the novel coronavirus, as the pathogen developed a potentially dangerous mutation inside the captive mink population. Reports from the country said that the mutated coronavirus has already infected at least 12 people. Researchers are worried that the new strain might be so dangerous that it could effectively render the current COVID-19 vaccine candidates useless. A new report now delivers more troublesome news, as some researchers think that the mutated coronavirus strain has pandemic potential. Others, meanwhile, are calling for calm.

If you mean should we allow herd immunity to develop as the best way to treat these outbreaks? That will happen no matter what we do. It happened with the Spanish flu.
We just have to play it as it needs to be played. The hand wringers will never stop this kind of speculation. Humankinds survival on this planet depends on it's ability to find solutions to every challenge to our existence. It's always been that way and I don't think it'll ever be any different. On the bright side, we always learn new things that give us tools to meet the *next* thing.
 

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If you mean should we allow herd immunity to develop as the best way to treat these outbreaks? That will happen no matter what we do. It happened with the Spanish flu.
We just have to play it as it needs to be played. The hand wringers will never stop this kind of speculation. Humankinds survival on this planet depends on it's ability to find solutions to every challenge to our existence. It's always been that way and I don't think it'll ever be any different. On the bright side, we always learn new things that give us tools to meet the *next* thing.
That's what the dinosaurs said.
 

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Like all flu and cold viruses this one of Covid-1984 permanently mutated, a vaccine is impossible. Are we to dumb to accept an useless gen manipulated jab which destroy our immune system and makes us defenseless against another viruses?


What if all of the assumptions that people are making about this COVID pandemic are completely wrong? When Pfizer announced that they had developed a successful vaccine for COVID, the world cheered. And then when Moderna announced that they had developed a successful vaccine for COVID, the world cheered even more. But COVID has been mutating, and scientists assure us that it will keep mutating. So what happens if the vaccines that are being developed end up being completely useless against new mutant strains of the virus? Would that put us all the way back to square one (or even worse)? To put this problem into perspective, let’s talk about the flu for a moment. Every year, health authorities come up with a flu vaccine that they think will be effective against the variation or variations of the flu that they believe will be dominant in that particular year. Most people simply assume that a “flu shot” will provide them with complete protection against “the flu”, but that is actually not true at all. In some years the match between the flu vaccine and the variations of the flu that are running around is pretty good, and some years that is definitely not the case. The following comes from the official CDC website
During years when the flu vaccine is not well matched to circulating influenza viruses, it is possible that little or no benefit from flu vaccination may be observed. During years when there is a good match between the flu vaccine and circulating viruses, it is possible to measure substantial benefits from flu vaccination in terms of preventing flu illness and complications. However, even during years when the flu vaccine match is good, the benefits of flu vaccination will vary, depending on various factors like the characteristics of the person being vaccinated, what influenza viruses are circulating that season and even, potentially, which type of flu vaccine was used.
At this point, Pfizer and Moderna both seem convinced that their vaccines will be effective against the dominant strain of COVID that is currently sweeping across the globe.
But what if a new strain becomes dominant?
In Denmark, a new strain of COVID that is being passed to humans from minks was considered to be so dangerous that the government actually announced that they would kill all 17 million minks in the entire nation

The government of Denmark shocked the world a few days ago when it announced it would slaughter as many as 17 million minks in the country, effectively destroying the entire mink fur industry in the country. The officials opted for this radical option because of the novel coronavirus, as the pathogen developed a potentially dangerous mutation inside the captive mink population. Reports from the country said that the mutated coronavirus has already infected at least 12 people. Researchers are worried that the new strain might be so dangerous that it could effectively render the current COVID-19 vaccine candidates useless. A new report now delivers more troublesome news, as some researchers think that the mutated coronavirus strain has pandemic potential. Others, meanwhile, are calling for calm.

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If you mean should we allow herd immunity to develop as the best way to treat these outbreaks? That will happen no matter what we do. It happened with the Spanish flu.
We just have to play it as it needs to be played. The hand wringers will never stop this kind of speculation. Humankinds survival on this planet depends on it's ability to find solutions to every challenge to our existence. It's always been that way and I don't think it'll ever be any different. On the bright side, we always learn new things that give us tools to meet the *next* thing.
"Herd immunity" through infection isn't herd immunity, it's just getting everyone infected. It's the opposite of a plan. Literally, the worst possible way to handle a disease.

Our poor handling of the virus has allowed it millions of hosts it didn't need to have, which is millions of more opportunities to mutate and render a vaccine or the natural immunity from infection less effective.

I think Zerohedge overstates the risk of that happening, but it's a potential issue.
 

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A Zerohedge article linked to a blog site of a Christian end times author...SCIENCE!
As we know MSM presstitutes 24/7 spread only lies acceptable for their Covid-1984 genocide agenda.
Therefore only Alternative Blogs can refer to the official CDC statement from above.


We're living in an dystopian end time world where the truth is prohibited and declared as a lie.

By the way, what is wrong with Christianity for you?
Why lefts hate only Christians and Christianity?

Probably because Christianity as only religion proves the entirely Marxism and its acolytes are from devil?
 

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If you mean should we allow herd immunity to develop as the best way to treat these outbreaks? That will happen no matter what we do. It happened with the Spanish flu.
We just have to play it as it needs to be played. The hand wringers will never stop this kind of speculation. Humankinds survival on this planet depends on it's ability to find solutions to every challenge to our existence. It's always been that way and I don't think it'll ever be any different. On the bright side, we always learn new things that give us tools to meet the *next* thing.
According to WHO and more as 7,000 virologists worldwide Covid-1984 is much weaker as common flu.
The scamdemic is still afloat because politicians support the phony PCR - 'test' and its results.
Without bogus PCR - 'test' no scamdemic survived longer as 2 hours.
Why politicians worldwide support the scam?
Because they want to kill humanity by the deadly 'vaccine'.
 

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As we know MSM presstitutes 24/7 spread only lies acceptable for their Covid-1984 genocide agenda.
Therefore only Alternative Blogs can refer to the official CDC statement from above.


We're living in an dystopian end time world where the truth is prohibited and declared as a lie.

By the way, what is wrong with Christianity for you?
Why lefts hate only Christians and Christianity?

Probably because Christianity as only religion proves the entirely Marxism and its acolytes are from devil?
When I look for information related to scientific topics, I tend to read information put out by actual scientists, not Christian end timers with absolutely no credentials in the field.
 

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When I look for information related to scientific topics, I tend to read information put out by actual scientists, not Christian end timers with absolutely no credentials in the field.
Too sad for you, but most brainy peoples of all times were white Christians.

 

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Of course, science is racist, BLM and affirmative action in science would do a better statistic.
Like now in Harvard: whites need 700 scores, blacks not more as 200.
Although the point still isn't closed and scotus didn't said its last world, one thing I'm pretty sure:
If Harris will run the US, math, physic and another 'racists' disciplines will became prohibited by law and among new Nobel Laureates will be neither whites nor Christians
 

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Of course, science is racist, BLM and affirmative action in science would do a better statistic.
Like now in Harvard: whites need 700 scores, blacks not more as 200.
 

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As we know MSM presstitutes 24/7 spread only lies acceptable for their Covid-1984 genocide agenda.
Therefore only Alternative Blogs can refer to the official CDC statement from above.


We're living in an dystopian end time world where the truth is prohibited and declared as a lie.

By the way, what is wrong with Christianity for you?
Why lefts hate only Christians and Christianity?

Probably because Christianity as only religion proves the entirely Marxism and its acolytes are from devil?
Hi Alfons,

You starting a thread about Covid-19 and you're now posting an article in reference to the Flu.

Covid-19 is not the Flu!

There are some common cold strains (cold is not the flu!) that are actually corona viruses. But they are not Covid-19.

The first article you reference to is scientifically flawed and biased. The very first sentence already shows where they are going to... 'What if all the assumptions we make are wrong'. Not professional nor scientific. Suggestive at best.

And now in your last post you are going on about a CDC article regarding the flu and the effectiveness of a vaccine against the flu.

The flu mutates faster than Covid-19. The number of mutations the flu produces that can reproduce and make people sick is also very high.

Covid for a long time only had 2 mutations that spread. The original version as detected in China. And the 1st mutation which I think was discovered in Italy earlier in the year. This mutation was a problem because it was more successful than the original strain of the virus.

It appears they have now discovered a new 3rd strain of the virus in Denmark. They immediately took action to avoid spread. There is no indication yet that it is more lethal than the 2 strains we already have. There is no evidence yet that the vaccine would be ineffective against the new strain. And they are doing research to establish all this. What more do you want?

You are afraid and want to inflict your own fear onto other people? Not a smart idea. Moreover because your fear is based on flawed science and alternative blogs that produce information that you rather listen to than real science.

This is not about religion. But if you want to make the about religion, ok, let's give it a go. If you guys were not so incredibly stupid to gather al together in a confined space called a church where the virus can happily spread and reproduce, the Covid-19 problem today would have been less than it currently is. But than again, if you die, it's gods will right?

Joey
 

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Hi Alfons,

You starting a thread about Covid-19 and you're now posting an article in reference to the Flu.

Covid-19 is not the Flu!

There are some common cold strains (cold is not the flu!) that are actually corona viruses. But they are not Covid-19.

The first article you reference to is scientifically flawed and biased. The very first sentence already shows where they are going to... 'What if all the assumptions we make are wrong'. Not professional nor scientific. Suggestive at best.

And now in your last post you are going on about a CDC article regarding the flu and the effectiveness of a vaccine against the flu.

The flu mutates faster than Covid-19. The number of mutations the flu produces that can reproduce and make people sick is also very high.

Covid for a long time only had 2 mutations that spread. The original version as detected in China. And the 1st mutation which I think was discovered in Italy earlier in the year. This mutation was a problem because it was more successful than the original strain of the virus.

It appears they have now discovered a new 3rd strain of the virus in Denmark. They immediately took action to avoid spread. There is no indication yet that it is more lethal than the 2 strains we already have. There is no evidence yet that the vaccine would be ineffective against the new strain. And they are doing research to establish all this. What more do you want?

You are afraid and want to inflict your own fear onto other people? Not a smart idea. Moreover because your fear is based on flawed science and alternative blogs that produce information that you rather listen to than real science.

This is not about religion. But if you want to make the about religion, ok, let's give it a go. If you guys were not so incredibly stupid to gather al together in a confined space called a church where the virus can happily spread and reproduce, the Covid-19 problem today would have been less than it currently is. But than again, if you die, it's gods will right?

Joey
Hi Alfons,
If you guys were not so incredibly stupid to gather al together in a confined space called a church
Joey
Hi Joe,

why I've never read about warnings to gather in mosques, temples, synagogues etc., only churches are bad.
 

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Hi Joe,

why I've never read about warnings to gather in mosques, temples, synagogues etc., only churches are bad.
Hi Alfons,

That is because you are reading blogs. If you were reading the news you would have read that assemblies of people in Synagogues and Mosques are equally dangeours and there has been plenty of warning against this behavior too.

Joey
 

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That's what the dinosaurs said.
What? No the dinosaurs didn’t say anything. They were dumb animals with no capacity for intelligent thought. Plus there’s no evidence they went extinct due to a pandemic
 

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If new strains of COVID developed that aren’t mitigated by a vaccine, why would immunity developed from getting COVID and surviving offer any protection against these new strains?
 

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Hi Alfons,

That is because you are reading blogs. If you were reading the news you would have read that assemblies of people in Synagogues and Mosques are equally dangeours and there has been plenty of warning against this behavior too.

Joey
However when Pakistan tried to shut down mosques the Imams reopened their mosques anyway and dared the government to stop them and looking at the possibility of massive riots the Pakistan government backed down. Good for them.
 

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However when Pakistan tried to shut down mosques the Imams reopened their mosques anyway and dared the government to stop them and looking at the possibility of massive riots the Pakistan government backed down. Good for them.
Hi EMNofSeattle,

In Holland it is the Protestant Churches that are refusing to shut down, but the Mosques are actually showing how it needs to be done. They are setting an example of how to deal with Covid in public places of worship.

Anyway, I won't be visiting any places of worship, so my only concern is them spreading it when they come out.


Joey
 

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Hi EMNofSeattle,

In Holland it is the Protestant Churches that are refusing to shut down, but the Mosques are actually showing how it needs to be done. They are setting an example of how to deal with Covid in public places of worship.

Anyway, I won't be visiting any places of worship, so my only concern is them spreading it when they come out.


Joey
And good for the Protestants for not shutting down. It is unreasonable, in fact it is actually evil to demand others put spiritual lives on hold so that one can pretend they’re safer
 

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And good for the Protestants for not shutting down. It is unreasonable, in fact it is actually evil to demand others put spiritual lives on hold so that one can pretend they’re safer
Hi EMNofSeattle,

We are never going to agree here. In my book it is evil when you are willingly disregarding safety warning and risk infecting other people.

And I may be an atheist, but I am convinced that, if I am wrong and there is actually a god, he would never want people to put lives at risk for the purpose of worshipping in a church. All he wants is for people to be good and healthy. Like it says in the 10 commandments of virtually every religion. Take care of your loved ones and take care of your neighbors.

Joey
 

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Hi EMNofSeattle,

We are never going to agree here. In my book it is evil when you are willingly disregarding safety warning and risk infecting other people.

And I may be an atheist, but I am convinced that, if I am wrong and there is actually a god, he would never want people to put lives at risk for the purpose of worshipping in a church. All he wants is for people to be good and healthy. Like it says in the 10 commandments of virtually every religion. Take care of your loved ones and take care of your neighbors.

Joey
You’re an atheist and you are ignorant of Christian theology and the importance of religious adherence to believers. What a shock.

there is no risk to gathering in church that is not present in any other daily Activity
 
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