New Rule: How the Left Was Lost

[Cardinal]

You really think you could have come up with a name that would have resulted in police departments being defunded around the country in under a decade?

lol

I suck at marketing, but I know bad messaging when it’s staring me in the face. I don’t know what a good campaign slogan for a free school lunch program would be, but “Surprise Finger In the Butt” isn’t gonna get a lot of takers.

 

[ecofarm]

"If only we could have a pleasant sounding name, we could have real change and very quickly!"

That's absurd.

 

[Cardinal]

"If only we could have a pleasant sounding name, we could have real change and very quickly!"

That's absurd.

And that’s why we have easy control of the Senate and Biden is getting all of his domestic agenda passed unfettered.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Bill Maher appears to be at his wits end with all the lunacy coming from the left these days and is desperately trying to wake them up to it. Unfortunately his message will likely fall on deaf ears and if he doesn't watch it, he's going to be the next victim of the cancel culture....At least that's my opinion.

In case there's anyone who thinks Maher is abandoning the left, becoming conservative and will soon be a republican supporter, you'd better think again. He still despises republicans just as much today as he always has.

Anyway, here's the clip... Enjoy.



This was my favorite line:

"... the party of FDR and JFK is turning into the party of LOL and WTF."​

He's a comedian. Who cares?

 

[ecofarm]

And that’s why we have easy control of the Senate and Biden is getting all of his domestic agenda passed unfettered.

It's absurd to think a revolution can be sped up through mealy-mouthed advertisement. Only education fuels a revolution. Only conversation fuels education. All the flashy lights and shiny beads in the world ain't gonna make it happen quicker.

 

[Cardinal]

It's absurd to think a revolution can be sped up through mealy-mouthed advertisement.

Refusing to do autopsies isn’t delivering you your revolution.

 

[Michael Cole]

Nonsense, the cat gets let out of the bag when a “serious” (headline making?) crime occurs and the public learns that the perp had a long history (rap sheet?) of committing prior (not quite so “serious”?) criminal acts, yet was allowed to roam freely among us.

Get your wallet out.

 

[ecofarm]

Refusing to do autopsies isn’t delivering you your revolution.

Your timeline is stupid.

 

[Cardinal]

Your timeline is stupid.

Your timeline isn’t based on anything tangible. Mine is. “Stuff takes a long time to happen” isn’t an argument on its own.

 

[ttwtt78640]

A revolution is predicated on its message.

A revolution is predicated on the honesty of its message as well as it’s impact on the public when put into practice.

 

[ecofarm]

Your timeline isn’t based on anything tangible. Mine is.

Defunding the police will take decades. Not a year. Not ten years. Decades. That's reality. Your expectations are ridiculous.

The only way we get there is through education. Through starting the conversation. We don't get there by fooling anyone with euphemism.

 

[Cardinal]

Defunding the police will take decades. Not a year. Not ten years. Decades. That's reality. Your expectations are ridiculous.

The only way we get there is through education. Through starting the conversation. We don't get there by fooling anyone with euphemism.

You’re the one talking about euphemisms; not me.

 

[Michael Cole]

It's absurd to think a revolution can be sped up through mealy-mouthed advertisement. Only education fuels a revolution. Only conversation fuels education. All the flashy lights and shiny beads in the world ain't gonna make it happen quicker.

What's absurd is attempting a revolution by repelling those whose support you need. And doing so right out of the gate.

If you have a great shit sandwich recipe, you're gonna need some tact in advertising that recipe. Simple as that. You have to fill the train before you can bring people to the mountain. Etc., etc. Not rocket science. Simple human behavior patterns.

 

[ecofarm]

You’re the one talking about euphemisms; not me.

You're demanding it of a movement. You're demanding the movement surrender its purpose and goal and substitute words you like. Because you believe that would be better.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

That’s pretty good. Sure, a lot of the silliness he mentioned, like Dr Seuss and emojis, is private enterprise, but the point remains.

My favorite bit was where he decried the state of affairs that makes Cheney a hero for doing the bare minimum: saying President Biden won the election. How pathetic is that?

 

[Cardinal]

What's absurd is attempting a revolution by repelling those whose support you need. And doing so right out of the gate.

If you have a great shit sandwich recipe, you're gonna need some tact in advertising that recipe. Simple as that. You have to fill the train before you can bring people to the mountain. Etc., etc. Not rocket science. Simple human behavior patterns.

Well, a better execution of that analogy would be calling an objectively delicious sandwich a “shit sandwich.” Be prepared not to sell a lot of sandwiches.

 

[Cardinal]

You're demanding it of a movement. You're demanding the movement surrender its purpose and goal and substitute words you like. Because you believe that would be better.

I am not demanding euphemisms. You’re the one assuming that the only alternative to a horrendous slogan is a false one.

 

[ecofarm]

Well, a better execution of that analogy would be calling an objectively delicious sandwich a “shit sandwich.” Be prepared not to sell a lot of sandwiches.

Selling doesn't accomplish anything. Understanding is required. That means forcing a conversation.

 

[ecofarm]

I am not demanding euphemisms. You’re the one assuming that the only alternative to a horrendous slogan is a false one.

Alternatives are false. They miss the mark.

 

[Cardinal]

Alternatives are false. They miss the mark.

“‘Shit sandwich’ is the only possible name for this ham and cheese sandwich!”

 

[ecofarm]

“‘Shit sandwich’ is the only possible name for this ham and cheese sandwich!”

Defunding the police is the goal and the measure. No other measure will suffice.

 

[Cardinal]

Selling doesn't accomplish anything. Understanding is required. That means forcing a conversation.

Well you’ve cracked the DaVinci code, my friend. Corporations can finally stop wasting billions of dollars on marketing.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Get your wallet out.

As if property crime does not impose a cost on society. Letting people “shop” without paying for what they take out of the store, is forcing the stores to raise the prices paid by those who do pay for their purchases. The cost of inventory ‘shrinkage’ does not disappear - it is simply passed on to others.

 

[ecofarm]

Well you’ve cracked the DaVinci code, my friend. Corporations can finally stop wasting billions of dollars on marketing.

Defund the police is not a company seeking profit through deception. It's a movement seeking education and lasting change. Your get rich quick schemes are of no use.

 

[Michael Cole]

Well, a better execution of that analogy would be calling an objectively delicious sandwich a “shit sandwich.” Be prepared not to sell a lot of sandwiches.

Indeed. You're better at marketing than you think. Lol.

The extremes of both spectrum endpoints are authoritarian in nature. Being right is the goal. I'd like to see a study of political extremism and narcissism.

...very interesting at first glance. I'll let you decide.

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Factoid: The band "Extreme" is a bunch of white guys. The band "The Supremes" were all black. Lol.