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New and Improved Mitt

Winnb said:
I agree with that. But that also kills any chance she has of being President. I have to assume (always risky) that Palin's people put out polls just like everyone else. And they have to know she can't win a general election. I mean they HAVE to know that.

And if they know then there's no sense in her running. She should just keep doing her gig, the speeches, the books, or whatever and enjoy that. But hey, things change in the world of politics pretty quick. Who know's what'll happen in the next few months...
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All correct. But this woman's ego is out of this world. There are so many people around her telling her how great she is, she might not care.

I can assure that GOP leadership don't want her in the primaries.

If Fox was smart, they would stop praising her all the time and quit talking about her. They have to know that she wouldn't be elected and if she runs as a third party, she'll lose it for the GOP.
 
=Winnb;1058554309It definitely puts Romney in a bit of a bind. How does he appease the anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-global warming, anti-evolution, pro-war, pro-death penalty, pro-intelligent design, gun toting, bible thumping, Christian Coalition types? Can he do that?
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Those people will never get all that they want and I think they know it by now, so they'll take what they can get. They won't turn their vote to a liberal or independant for all that stuff, and if they do then so be it. This is where the Republican's have to start drawing some lines. They have to look at the whole picture.
 
Winnb said:
It definitely puts Romney in a bit of a bind. How does he appease the anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-global warming, anti-evolution, pro-war, pro-death penalty, pro-intelligent design, gun toting, bible thumping, Christian Coalition types?
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Who also happen to be anti-Mormon. He's in a bind, because the Christian right thinks Mormons are a bunch of non-Christian cultists.
 
Winnb said:
It's about electoral math.

IMO Romney knows he can run to the middle and have a great shot at winning the presidency. He's gonna carry Texas and most of the Southern states no matter how far in the middle he is in a Presidential election. Who else are those folks gonna vote for, the Democrat? Add in the fact that he can carry some Central and North Eastern states with his North Eastern Republican background... And now I also give him a good shot at Florida.... And well IMO you've got a republican that can win the Presidency.

Here's the problem for Romney - The Republican nomination. In order to win that he has to appease certain right wing voters that he probably would rather not appease. He has to run to the right. And that's when he looks and sounds awkward. It's so painfully obvious that he's not a far right kind of guy, but he can't afford to alienate those people because they ALL VOTE.

It definitely puts Romney in a bit of a bind. How does he appease the anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-global warming, anti-evolution, pro-war, pro-death penalty, pro-intelligent design, gun toting, bible thumping, Christian Coalition types?

Can he do that?
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***** By and Large YES . If you simply focus on his Business background and forget the values he genuinly has - as a Mormon - then you might see him as some Country Club Blue Blood Wannabee. However that's not him. He's quite pragmaticand that's why so far he's avoided the Tea Party's.

**** In 2008 both he and McCain were very early on focused on HRC as the eventual opponant . They failed to see Obama appealing beyond the Far Left or the changing demographics. Also Romney banked it all early on in Iowa. He needed a win there to maintain what he KNEW would be a feeling of inevitability . Huckabee and the Good Christians saw things differently .
 
CrusaderRabbit08 said:
Who also happen to be anti-Mormon. He's in a bind, because the Christian right thinks Mormons are a bunch of non-Christian cultists.
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True, but I think that it would only prevent a small minority of them from voting for him assuming he shared their views on social issues. Only the hard core fundamentalist types would not vote for someone on the basis of their being a Mormon.
 
**** I think 2 years ago in Iowa there were enough Hard Core types to prevent Romney from advancing . Huckabee capitaized on this. Some of them TODAY I imagine think Sarah Palin is just so neat;)

******* Huckabee like Palin cannot win a General Election. Romney might.
 
Zinc Route said:
**** I think 2 years ago in Iowa there were enough Hard Core types to prevent Romney from advancing . Huckabee capitaized on this. Some of them TODAY I imagine think Sarah Palin is just so neat;)

******* Huckabee like Palin cannot win a General Election. Romney might.
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I think Huckabee has a much better shot than Palin.

He at least knows that Africa is not a country.
 
kansaswhig said:
I think Huckabee has a much better shot than Palin.

He at least knows that Africa is not a country.
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I don't think so. 4 cops are dead because of his poor judgment. His political career is over.
 
CrusaderRabbit08 said:
I don't think so. 4 cops are dead because of his poor judgment. His political career is over.
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I think people will forget about it.

I seem to remember another Arkansas Gov that had quite a controversy when he was running. What happened to him?
 
kansaswhig said:
I think people will forget about it.

I seem to remember another Arkansas Gov that had quite a controversy when he was running. What happened to him?
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His opponents won't. His candidacy is DOA.
 
One thing we know, someone like Romney with many degrees and a proven record in financial matters will never win against any other republican no matter how stupid they are.....:shock:
 
***** If the economy remains as it is or worsens - well Romney might get by on the pure need for someone with obvious expertise in Financial matters. It's an admitted hard call though because some see only Right to Life and Guns as ultra important and they are a good poriuon of Primary Voters.
 
kansaswhig said:
Romney, IMO, is the epitome of everything that is wrong with politics: Flip-flops, image-reconstruction, pandering, etc.

Plus, he also epitomizes all the stereotypes of Republicans by most Americans: Born into wealth, greasy-haired, white guy.

Personally, I have a problem with his lack of military service. It's kind of a pre-requisite to be a hawkish GOP guy, IMO. But that's just me. It also irks me that he has FIVE able-bodied sons and not one of them has put on the uniform. His remark in the 2008 campaign: "My sons are serving their country by working on my campaign" really rubbed me the wrong way. My dislike of him started then.

I wouldn't vote for him.
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And, you just played into Liberal identity politics. Hooah!!
 
apdst said:
And, you just played into Liberal identity politics. Hooah!!
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I don't get it; is that not true about him?

You are a fan of Mitt the faux conservative? Really?
 
kansaswhig said:
I don't get it; is that not true about him?

You are a fan of Mitt the faux conservative? Really?
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There are conservatives, and then there are CONSERVATIVES.....:2razz:

I have almost always voted GOP at the federal level, but a major portion of the party has leaned so far right that I am feeling not inclined to follow.

I am in favor of education reform, and health care reform, but not to the extent that the DEMS want. I know many parents who have not supported the educators in their efforts to teach their brats. And I know many parents who have lots of electronic services and toys but "can't afford" health insurance.
I am in favor of social services for those who are unable to support themselves, but not those who are simply unwilling.
Personal responsibility seems to have become a thing of the past...
 
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