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Netanyahu is a walking, talking antisemitic trope

No, it's about how right-wingers take lies and make them true. Like how the Republicans say 'Government is the enemy and doesn't work', then they get elected and fulfill that as a campaign promise.

I've been bending over backwards to absolve Jews of anything to do with Israel, while you and Netanyahu want the reverse. You want criticism of Israel to be synonymous antisemitism. You want a progressive Jew in New York to be holding the bag for genocide being committed in Israel. If I lived to be a million years old, I couldn't do more in the effort of stoking antisemitism than people like you and @Sweden.
You have made in the past antisemitic remarks that have nothing to do with Israel and got called out on it by multiple posters here, you're not fooling anyone.
 
Funny.

I don’t see any racism or Jew hatred.

I have some issues with some Jews. Not because they are Jewish, but because they suck as human beings.
Of course you don't, you're part of the problem.
 
If it walks like an antisemitic duck and talks like an antisemitic duck and claims the Jews control the media, it's an antisemitic duck.
Your defense of antisemitism saying that it can all pass as legitimate criticism of specific policies of specific governments of the state of Israel are nice but they are consistent attempts to excuse or support actual antisemitism.
Failure to draw the line fallacy.
 
Predictable.

Fortunately, fewer and fewer people are accepting such Israel = Jew nonsense. There are many Jews for whom Israel isn't that important, just as there are Christian Zionists. I condemn the racist and violent ideology of the Zionist state.

Unfortunately, the Zionists are aware that people are rejecting their propaganda, and this is motivating them to crack down on dissent.
The good old "I said Zionist not Jew".
 
All Zionists are Jews but not all Jews are Zionists.

Which makes your reply bullshit.
Doesn't change the fact that anti-Zionism is antisemitism as even left wing leaders in Europe acknowledge.
You don't even know what Zionism means. Antisemites have changed the term to mean whatever they want.
 
Looks like someone is losing it because his racist ideology is being opposed.

I'm annoyed because right out of the gate you start smearing accusations of anti-semitism. What Israel is doing in Gaza is wrong, that's not anti-semitism, that's reality.
This thread was opened by a known proponent of antisemitism and it is about claims that Jews control the media claiming that Netanyahu is strengthening these claims by believing that TikTok under Chinese hands was an anti-Israeli influence and that under Larry Ellison's hands it will be better.
He may be, but the fact is, that people in the US that have supported Israel over the years and were supportive of the US stance of supporting Israel (like myself) are done with it.

Partly because of Israeli actions in Gaza and partly because of Israeli actions in the US.

Israel has gone all in on whatever end game they are pursuing, at this point I don't even know, Hamas is pretty much neutered so the claims of genocide seem pretty damn accurate.

It's isolated Israel and beyond the moral implications of supporting genocide, it's not good for the US to stand with a rogue state. That's not anti-semitism, it's the fact I'm an American and I have pride in my nation and the idea of it being subservient to another state annoys me. The fact it's following Israeli actions over a cliff angers me. The fact it's doing all of this with any of my tax dollars sets me off.

You can discount everything I'm saying but as someone that has always leaned more pro-Israel, other than nuttbag evangelicals that support Israel because of bad theology, I promise you more Americans are and will start having my view, and Israel is in a bad situation at that point.
 
Doesn't change the fact that anti-Zionism is antisemitism as even left wing leaders in Europe acknowledge.
You don't even know what Zionism means. Antisemites have changed the term to mean whatever they want.
That was a clever PR program not an accurate description of the situation.

And to clarify I am referring to the Zionist movement in the late 1800’s in Europe that has descended to the far right in Israel.

Do I really need to cite Jewish sources for my position?

And will you call them antisemites if I do?
 
You have made in the past antisemitic remarks that have nothing to do with Israel and got called out on it by multiple posters here, you're not fooling anyone.

I've been called out as an antisemite by Zionists for criticizing Israel (*gasp!*). Show me a post I've made where I've criticized Jews as a collective people and I'll apologize to you publicly and donate to the ADL.

My ideology is rooted in the Jewish tradition of humanism and challenging concentrated power. Of my ideological influences, at least a half a dozen are Jewish. I'd argue I'm more inline with Jew philosophy than you. What's your claim to being Jewish?
 
I'm annoyed because right out of the gate you start smearing accusations of anti-semitism. What Israel is doing in Gaza is wrong, that's not anti-semitism, that's reality.

He may be, but the fact is, that people in the US that have supported Israel over the years and were supportive of the US stance of supporting Israel (like myself) are done with it.

Partly because of Israeli actions in Gaza and partly because of Israeli actions in the US.

Israel has gone all in on whatever end game they are pursuing, at this point I don't even know, Hamas is pretty much neutered so the claims of genocide seem pretty damn accurate.

It's isolated Israel and beyond the moral implications of supporting genocide, it's not good for the US to stand with a rogue state. That's not anti-semitism, it's the fact I'm an American and I have pride in my nation and the idea of it being subservient to another state angers me.

You can discount everything I'm saying but as someone that has always leaned more pro-Israel, other than nuttbag evangelicals that support Israel because of bad theology, I promise you more Americans are leaning in my camp because of that actions of Israel.
This thread isn't about how people have fallen for Islamist propaganda helped by China, Russia and Qatar investing billions and have become useful idiots who support a terrorist organization and throw false ridiculously idiotic accusations against the liberal civilized democracy that rightfully and morally defends its citizens against that vile terrorist organization.

This thread is about antisemitism and so far the thread is dominated by the people here who are known proponents of antisemitism and who have voiced opinions that are objectively antisemitic such as the OP himself.
Instead of condemning the antisemites here you are attacking Israel for... what, exactly, that is relevant to the thread topic? "Promoting propaganda"? Because Netanyahu thinks Larry Ellison is better to Israel than the Chinese? Yeah okay.
 
No I do not. Try harder.

Legal and Policy Frameworks Supporting Ethno-Supremacy​

Several Israeli laws are cited as institutionalizing ethno-supremacy:

  • The 1952 Citizenship Law restricts automatic citizenship for non-Jews, especially Palestinians displaced in 1948 and their descendants.
  • The 2018 Nation-State Law formally defines Israel as "the nation-state of the Jewish people", enshrining Jewish supremacy in law. It prioritizes Jewish settlement as a "national value" and downgrades Arabic from an official language to a "special status."
These laws, critics argue, create a two-tiered legal system where Jewish citizens enjoy rights and privileges denied to non-Jewish residents, particularly Palestinians in the occupied territories.


Discriminatory Practices and Human Rights Assessments​

Numerous human rights organizations have documented systemic discrimination:

  • B'Tselem, an Israeli human rights group, declared in 2021 that Israel is "a regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea", amounting to apartheid.
  • The United Nations and other international bodies have echoed concerns, citing segregated roads, differential access to water, land expropriation, and home demolitions in the West Bank.
  • Settler violence, often with state complicity, has increased, especially after October 2023, with over 690 Palestinians killed in the West Bank by mid-2025.


Internal and International Criticism​

Criticism of Israel as an ethno-supremacist state comes from diverse sources:

  • Ilan Pappé, an Israeli historian, states that the First Aliyah established a society based on "Jewish supremacy" within Jewish-only cooperatives.
  • David Novak, a Jewish theologian, criticizes the modern Noahide movement—supported by some Israeli rabbis—for promoting Jewish imperialism by instructing non-Jews on religious conduct.
  • Left-wing Jewish groups, such as Jews of Conscience, argue that Zionism functions as "white supremacy" led by Ashkenazi elites, marginalizing Mizrahi, Sephardi, and African Jews.
 
I've been called out as an antisemite by Zionists for criticizing Israel (*gasp!*). Show me a post I've made where I've criticized Jews as a collective people and I'll apologize to you publicly and donate to the ADL.

My ideology is rooted in the Jewish tradition of humanism and challenging concentrated power. Of my ideological influences, at least a half a dozen are Jewish. I'd argue I'm more inline with Jew philosophy than you. What's your claim to being Jewish?
I don't take Jew-tests from people who support antisemitism.
 

Legal and Policy Frameworks Supporting Ethno-Supremacy​

Several Israeli laws are cited as institutionalizing ethno-supremacy:

  • The 1952 Citizenship Law restricts automatic citizenship for non-Jews, especially Palestinians displaced in 1948 and their descendants.
  • The 2018 Nation-State Law formally defines Israel as "the nation-state of the Jewish people", enshrining Jewish supremacy in law. It prioritizes Jewish settlement as a "national value" and downgrades Arabic from an official language to a "special status."
These laws, critics argue, create a two-tiered legal system where Jewish citizens enjoy rights and privileges denied to non-Jewish residents, particularly Palestinians in the occupied territories.


Discriminatory Practices and Human Rights Assessments​

Numerous human rights organizations have documented systemic discrimination:

  • B'Tselem, an Israeli human rights group, declared in 2021 that Israel is "a regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea", amounting to apartheid.
  • The United Nations and other international bodies have echoed concerns, citing segregated roads, differential access to water, land expropriation, and home demolitions in the West Bank.
  • Settler violence, often with state complicity, has increased, especially after October 2023, with over 690 Palestinians killed in the West Bank by mid-2025.


Internal and International Criticism​

Criticism of Israel as an ethno-supremacist state comes from diverse sources:

  • Ilan Pappé, an Israeli historian, states that the First Aliyah established a society based on "Jewish supremacy" within Jewish-only cooperatives.
  • David Novak, a Jewish theologian, criticizes the modern Noahide movement—supported by some Israeli rabbis—for promoting Jewish imperialism by instructing non-Jews on religious conduct.
  • Left-wing Jewish groups, such as Jews of Conscience, argue that Zionism functions as "white supremacy" led by Ashkenazi elites, marginalizing Mizrahi, Sephardi, and African Jews.
Nice quick copy and paste but nothing in this list of claims by far-left wackos is evidence for your earlier accusation.
 
Nice quick copy and paste but nothing in this list of claims by far-left wackos is evidence for your earlier accusation.

You support the systems of Israel cited.
 
This thread isn't about how people have fallen for Islamist propaganda helped by China, Russia and Qatar investing billions and have become useful idiots who support a terrorist organization and throw false ridiculously idiotic accusations against the liberal civilized democracy that rightfully and morally defends its citizens against that vile terrorist organization.
Sure bud, I avoid social media like the plague and most of my information comes from places like the NY Times...not exactly a hotbed of anti Semitic propaganda. A lot of the people I listen to and read are Jewish writers that are struggling with their conception of being a Zionist basically being synonymous with being Jewish in America, while they don't agree with the Israeli states actions.

Israel retaliating for the attacks on October 7th were justified, even it's heavy handed tactics to take out surrounding Islamist power structures in neighboring states, but what it is unapologetically doing right now is not right. It's defending anything, it's causing terror to millions of civilians.
This thread is about antisemitism and so far the thread is dominated by the people here who are known proponents of antisemitism and who have voiced opinions that are objectively antisemitic such as the OP himself.
Instead of condemning the antisemites here you are attacking Israel for... what, exactly, that is relevant to the thread topic? "Promoting propaganda"? Because Netanyahu thinks Larry Ellison is better to Israel than the Chinese? Yeah okay.
It's well beyond Larry Elison and Tik Tok, that's just the most recent example of the state of Israel manipulating Americans or circumventing Americans and going straight to buying politicians.

I don't know the OP's history, but there is truth to what the OP is about. Israeli actions are turning Americans against the state of Israel and jews in America have stated they feel less safe in America due to Israeli actions.

Also, I am not an Islamist and not falling for that propaganda. That is so far off because I'm just as resentful or more so of Islamists coming to America and spreading their own propaganda and their own issue of white washing what their side has done against the state of Israel.

At this point, it's a pox on both houses because the bickering in the Middle East between Israel and it's neighbors has just brought the US unending grief and issues.
 
You support the systems of Israel cited.
Such as?
Hebrew being the official language of Israel? Me 'supporting' this makes me an "ethno-supremacist Zionist"? lol.
You make it clear why antisemitism is considered an ideology originating from ignorance as much as from blind hatred.
 
How could an Israeli or Zionist not think this accelerates antisemitism? Is that the goal?


Antisemitism is the oxygen Zionism has always required, so yes, the goal is to use antisemitism as a screen to stave off legitimate criticism of Israeli policies and actions.

No antisemitism, no screen.

It makes sense why Zionists come up with " definitions" of antisemitism that would seek to vastly increase alleged examples.
 
Sure bud, I avoid social media like the plague and most of my information comes from places like the NY Times...not exactly a hotbed of anti Semitic propaganda. A lot of the people I listen to and read are Jewish writers that are struggling with their conception of being a Zionist basically being synonymous with being Jewish in America, while they don't agree with the Israeli states actions.
Being a Zionist doesn't mean whatever you think it means, it simply means supporting Israel existing as a Jewish homeland, something that if someone opposes, and is an anti-Zionist, then that someone is clearly making an antisemitic statement.
This was rightfully stated by left wing leaders in Europe and elsewhere such as Justin Trudeau of Canada and Macron of France. Not exactly right wingers.
It's simply what anti-Zionism is. Unique opposition to Jews existing in their homeland that is not directed at other people.
Israel retaliating for the attacks on October 7th were justified, even it's heavy handed tactics to take out surrounding Islamist power structures in neighboring states, but what it is unapologetically doing right now is not right. It's defending anything, it's causing terror to millions of civilians.
No it's not, it's still targeting terrorists as it did from the start. It takes measures to minimize civilian casualties.
It's well beyond Larry Elison and Tik Tok, that's just the most recent example of the state of Israel manipulating Americans
Israel is not behind this purchase and didn't order Larry Ellison to purchase TikTok lol.
The thread is about Israel believing it's a good thing that TiKTok moves from Chinese hands to Oracle. Well, shocking.
I don't know the OP's history, but there is truth to what the OP is about. Israeli actions are turning Americans against the state of Israel and jews in America have stated they feel less safe in America due to Israeli actions.
Search his comments, specifically what threads he's opening one after the other dealing with antisemitism.
If you buy into this nonsense, you should question yourself.
At this point, it's a pox on both houses because the bickering in the Middle East between Israel and it's neighbors has just brought the US unending grief and issues.
The moral position is to support Israel defending itself and hoping civilian casualties can be minimized as much as possible while understanding that civilians die in war and that war is horrible and that Israel hadn't chosen this war.
 
I always said that the biggest thing you far-leftist extremists and the far-right extremists have in common is your shared hatred for Jewish life.

What does that tell us about Israel aiding and abetting the far right in numerous locations around the world, that they too share " a hatred for Jewish life" ?

Israeli actions and policies are the work of Israelis, note not the work every Jew on the planet nor for " Jewish life" whatever that is lol

It's as ridiculous as claiming that the actions of the Philippines should determine peoples views on every Muslim living in the world.

Your commentary is pure pig swill.
 
What does that tell us about Israel aiding and abetting the far right in numerous locations around the world, that they too share " a hatred for Jewish life" ?

Israeli actions and policies are the work of Israelis, note not the work every Jew on the planet nor for " Jewish life" whatever that is lol

It's as ridiculous as claiming that the actions of the Philippines should determine peoples views on every Muslim living in the world.

Your commentary is pure pig swill.
It will help the cause of the people who revolt against opposition to antisemitism if the only opposition was not from the actual proponents of antisemitism with rich history of making barbaric Jew hating posts such as yourself. (Or @Felis Leo or @Dans La Lune or the others here who are associated with the antisemitic ideology)
 
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