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Yuck. Give kids guns. Your opinions are wild dude.
Yuck. Give kids guns. Your opinions are wild dude.if we're gonna have to arm our schools (due to all the school shootings) then the guns need to be quickly accessible to stop the shooter. otherwise what good are they?
now, am i for arming our schools? of course not.
do i see a way to stop school shootings? of course not.
In post 245...When did it become every teacher AND student and when did CaughtInThe become an advocate for that shit?
When schools in one North Carolina county reopen later this month, new security measures will include stocking AR-15 rifles for school resource officers to use in the event of an active shooter.
Sheriff Harwood said the safes where the AR-15s will be kept will also hold ammunition and breaching tools for barricaded doors.
“We’ll have those tools to be able to breach that door if needed. I do not want to have to run back out to the car to grab an AR, because that’s time lost. Hopefully we’ll never need it, but I want my guys to be as prepared as prepared can be,” he said.
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North Carolina sheriff stocking schools with AR-15 rifles in wake of Uvalde shooting
Spurred by the elementary school shooting in Uvalde, Texas, that left 19 children and two teachers dead in May, school officials and Madison County Sheriff Buddy Harwood have placed one of the semiautomatic rifles in each of the county’s six schools.www.nbcnews.com
I like this idea. This is just another resource for an officer to get to if they find themselves inside the school as an incident occurs.
Good god12 gauge shotguns should suffice. Overpenetration would not be nearly as much of a problem.
i guess when you skip part of my posts it's easy to post that kind of lie.Yuck. Give kids guns. Your opinions are wild dude.
Good god
Yes "they say" as I say it could take to long given circumstances but the best is if the r.o. (not range officer lol) go's toward the fire. Given no r.o. then the best response is an armed teacher. And that place would be from where ever it was concealed on the person.They don't want a single rifle locked in a safe because it takes far too long to get to ( they say). They have argued that handguns are better for schools. Where do you think they want guns kept? Obviously closer than a single safe accessible only to school resource officers. .. so where would that be? Hmm?
Right... for safety!If we are going to have armed officers on school campuses armed to take on school shooters, I would prefer they don't use weapons which can penetrate walls and doors and kill students or teachers.
Placing the most deadly weapons, that are used most commonly in school shootings, in "readily available " places inside a school is insane. There are many other options available.i guess when you skip part of my posts it's easy to post that kind of lie.
Yes, arm the teachers. You and @CaughtInThe agree. Seems silly when there is an s.r.o. on staff...Yes "they say" as I say it could take to long given circumstances but the best is if the r.o. (not range officer lol) go's toward the fire. Given no r.o. then the best response is an armed teacher. And that place would be from where ever it was concealed on the person.
Keep in mind, this is not the bush; no officer is carrying a Rem 700 in the trunk unless they are a sniper for swat and it's definitely not the proper tool for inside a school. In my area, every officer I know has some sort of semi-auto rifle with most being AR style.They also commonly carry shotguns and even rifles. They may even have AR-15s in the trunk of their squad car, but I suspect that if given a choice they would prefer a better rifle, like the Remington Model 700.
There shouldn't even be "school officers." There wasn't when I went to school. That is yet another form of leftist stupidity, like their stupid "gun free zones" advertisements. If teachers cannot handle children, they have no business being teachers. That is simply pathetic. Every "school officer" should be fired and their salary divided among the teachers. If they can't teach children discipline and create order in their own classroom, why would anyone consider them to be a teacher?
Who ever accused criminals of being intelligent? All they need to know is that there is an unguarded safe in schools that contains several hundred dollars worth of firearms. That is more than sufficient motive for some idiots to give it a try.
in an active shooter event (which we have and a lot of countries don't due to the fact that we're swimming in guns) how much time does the "good guy with a gun" have to shoot the bad guy (with the guns that you want the good guys to have).Placing the most deadly weapons, that are used most commonly in school shootings, in "readily available " places inside a school is insane. There are many other options available.
Right... for safety!
I disagree with arming teachers from the start. I disagree with weapons caches at schools from the start. I will compromise on it, if it's about #8 on the list, give or take.I do not think AR-15s are appropriate weapons for a school campus. Semi-automatic rifles meant to fire high velocity ammunition are too dangerous for crowded school settings. There is too high a possibility of innocent people being injured or killed from rounds shooting through walls and doors. If you disagree, please feel free to add something of substance. Or don't.
The school shooter I assume you mean. He could do it in say two minutes maybe less with a modicum of accuracy. Ten round magazines about the same give 5-6 seconds for reloads, but he's shooting fish in a barrel. Me one [1] shot and the shooter is done.if guns are going to be in schools (to protect children) then they need to be quickly accessible so that when the gunman starts shooting the "good guy with a gun" can cut the number of killed children down. if the "good guy with a gun" has to run to the office (or some room) to get guns then the gunman has already taken out entire class rooms.
btw, how long does it take you to shoot 30 times?
and if you have to run and get locked up guns?The school shooter I assume you mean. He could do it in say two minutes maybe less with a modicum of accuracy. Ten round magazines about the same give 5-6 seconds for reloads, but he's shooting fish in a barrel. Me one [1] shot and the shooter is done.
I disagree with arming teachers from the start. I disagree with weapons caches at schools from the start. I will compromise on it, if it's about #8 on the list, give or take.
Maybe, in a scenario where everything lines up for you. Including not getting shot by the killer, having a clear shot and being undisturbed, NOT being shot by the cops, etc. So you're just describing an LEO sniper, really. And we already do that.The school shooter I assume you mean. He could do it in say two minutes maybe less with a modicum of accuracy. Ten round magazines about the same give 5-6 seconds for reloads, but he's shooting fish in a barrel. Me one [1] shot and the shooter is done.
That comes down to each individual. Not all are built equally and some will not take immediate, aggressive action as we saw in TX. You can train to the cows come home but you won't know for sure until you're in it. I think the safe on campus is just another resource that will require training and preplanning. Whether or not it's a difference maker is the real question but having it staged there provides more options for responders in my eyes.Here's the rub. If the school officer is is aware of shooting or sees a possible event about to unfold what does he do does he head toward it or to some gun safe on the other side of the school? I'd like to think they would head toward the gunfire or what looked to become gunfire readying their sidearm.
Google wasn't able to translate that but I think you're saying AR15s are just like any other gun? The value of the AR platform is that it can be setup specifically for a given situation - such as the inside of a school. This provides the user with a powerful round in a customizable package. Very useful.wHy?,?!why?,?!?
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Ha, no. Well, facetiously, yes.Google wasn't able to translate that but I think you're saying AR15s are just like any other gun?
12ga is great in close quarters but I imagine storming a classroom there would be a higher chance for collateral damage using buckshot that would override the potential for over penetration.12 gauge shotguns should suffice. Overpenetration would not be nearly as much of a problem.
No your replies are wild where did CaughtInThe say he wanted to arm kids? Here I'll refresh things.Yuck. Give kids guns. Your opinions are wild dude.
CaughtInThe said:
if we're gonna have to arm our schools (due to all the school shootings) then the guns need to be quickly accessible to stop the shooter. otherwise what good are they?
now, am i for arming our schools? of course not.
do i see a way to stop school shootings? of course not.
Not....Even....CloseIn post 245...
Hey, your "good guy with the gun" rambo myth doesn't seem to be workingin an active shooter event (which we have and a lot of countries don't due to the fact that we're swimming in guns) how much time does the "good guy with a gun" have to shoot the bad guy (with the guns that you want the good guys to have).
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