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"Nature Couldn't Have Created It"

Evidence of Complexity and Order (DESIGN), supports this.
False.

I don't think you know how to form an argument. You seem to think an assertion is an argument. You also seem to think repetition strengthens your plea.
 
Ridiculing your post obviously went over your head.


Hahahaha

Based from many posts here by evolutionists - it's hard to tell.


You gave that article without really understanding it..................... didn't you?
Mulefoot had to point it out to you!



It didn't occur to you that the article makes a good example for creation and design!
HOW?
Think about it:

Would all those materials used to make that life, have come together on their own without any scientist.......................and, without scientists doing anything at all, except look at them?






If you guys really want to simulate what you think happened in the beginning - that it all happened by chance/random - here's what scientists need to do:
First: simulate "NOTHING."

Since we don't know what "nothing" is - like, what's it like with no space - I don't even know how you can begin!
You want life, you say?
Then - you just wait for the first ingredient to appear!
 
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Hahahaha

Based from many posts here by evolutionists - it's hard to tell.


You gave that article without really understanding it..................... didn't you?
Mulefoot had to point it out to you!



It didn't occur to you that the article makes a good example for creation and design!
HOW?
Think about it:

Would all those materials used to make that life, have come together on their own without any scientist.......................and, without scientists doing anything at all, except look at them?






If you guys really want to simulate what you think happened in the beginning - that it all happened by chance/random - here's what scientists need to do:
First: simulate "NOTHING."

Since we don't know what "nothing" is - like, what's it like with no space - I don't even know how you can begin!
You want life, you say?
Then - you just wait for the first ingredient to appear!

All of the ingredients for life were present at the Big Bang. It just took a few billion years for the process to come to fruition. Wha do you not understand about this? I take it that you prefer the fairy tale of “Adam and Eve”.
 
All of the ingredients for life were present at the Big Bang. It just took a few billion years for the process to come to fruition. Wha do you not understand about this? I take it that you prefer the fairy tale of “Adam and Eve”.
You’re responding to someone who willfully ignores all things Science and all things evolution. She also refuses to adhere to basic definitions of even the most common words used in the english language.

On top of all that, she then can’t NOT post like an adolescent with adhd.
 
You’re responding to someone who willfully ignores all things Science and all things evolution. She also refuses to adhere to basic definitions of even the most common words used in the english language.

On top of all that, she then can’t NOT post like an adolescent with adhd.
It's just an exercise in getting attention. Ever seen this poster post about ANYTHING else? Nope.
 
Hahahaha

Based from many posts here by evolutionists - it's hard to tell.


You gave that article without really understanding it..................... didn't you?
Mulefoot had to point it out to you!



It didn't occur to you that the article makes a good example for creation and design!
HOW?
Think about it:

Would all those materials used to make that life, have come together on their own without any scientist.......................and, without scientists doing anything at all, except look at them?






If you guys really want to simulate what you think happened in the beginning - that it all happened by chance/random - here's what scientists need to do:
First: simulate "NOTHING."

Since we don't know what "nothing" is - like, what's it like with no space - I don't even know how you can begin!
You want life, you say?
Then - you just wait for the first ingredient to appear!
Can you point to a single life form on earth that exists today in the same state that you believe it was 'created and designed' in?
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You’re responding to someone who willfully ignores all things Science and all things evolution. She also refuses to adhere to basic definitions of even the most common words used in the english language.

On top of all that, she then can’t NOT post like an adolescent with adhd.

She does indeed post like a teeny bopper junior high girl, doesn’t she.
 
Can you point to a single life form on earth that exists today in the same state that you believe it was 'created and designed' in?
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That's not a real chart of how thngs really happened.
That's just a conjecture.




Below here, in this article is a given chart for elephants.
It doesn't include some of the creatures shown in your chart.



Once it reached Europe, the Palaeoloxodon antiquus had to adapt to new conditions.
One of its new homes was the island of Sicily and, as is common when large animals settle on an island, it evolved into a dwarf species.
This is a way for large animals to deal with the paucity of resources common on islands.

There’s a problem, though: DNA revealed some years ago that the Palaeoloxodon falconeri wasn’t descended from or related to any of the African elephant species as expected.
Its closest relative was actually the Asian elephant.


That made no sense. How could the straight-tusked elephant be related to African elephants and its dwarf descendant be related to Asian elephants? Was that study wrong? The new study, which examined Palaeoloxodon antiquus DNA, could help unravel the mystery.

This is because the Palaeoloxodon antiquus’ DNA appears to be a mixture of many species’ DNA, which would have happened when they interbred.
This process, known as admixture, probably occurred once Palaeoloxodon left Africa. That’s how its descendents ended up with Asian elephant DNA, and even DNA from the famous woolly mammoth.





They're from the same species or kinds, otherwise they wouldn't be able to interbreed.



It's................ADAPTATION!






Looks can deceive you!
😁


But when we get right down to it, what really make a species a species?
Organisms that look alike often belong to the same species, but this isn’t always the case.
I for one can't tell the African fish eagle and the bald eagle apart from the photos below. But they are, in fact, different species.

According to the biological species concept, organisms belong to the same species if they can interbreed to produce viable, fertile offspring.
 
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That's not a real chart of how thngs really happened.
That's just a conjecture.





Below here, in this article is a given chart for elephants.
It doesn't include some of the creatures shown in your chart.



Once it reached Europe, the Palaeoloxodon antiquus had to adapt to new conditions.
One of its new homes was the island of Sicily and, as is common when large animals settle on an island, it evolved into a dwarf species.
This is a way for large animals to deal with the paucity of resources common on islands.

There’s a problem, though: DNA revealed some years ago that the Palaeoloxodon falconeri wasn’t descended from or related to any of the African elephant species as expected.
Its closest relative was actually the Asian elephant.


That made no sense. How could the straight-tusked elephant be related to African elephants and its dwarf descendant be related to Asian elephants? Was that study wrong? The new study, which examined Palaeoloxodon antiquus DNA, could help unravel the mystery.

This is because the Palaeoloxodon antiquus’ DNA appears to be a mixture of many species’ DNA, which would have happened when they interbred.
This process, known as admixture, probably occurred once Palaeoloxodon left Africa. That’s how its descendents ended up with Asian elephant DNA, and even DNA from the famous woolly mammoth.





They're from the same species or kinds, otherwise they wouldn't be able to interbreed.



It's................ADAPTATION!






Looks can deceive you!
😁


But when we get right down to it, what really make a species a species?
Organisms that look alike often belong to the same species, but this isn’t always the case.
I for one can't tell the African fish eagle and the bald eagle apart from the photos below. But they are, in fact, different species.

According to the biological species concept, organisms belong to the same species if they can interbreed to produce viable, fertile offspring.

Everybody knows this. What is your point?
 
You’re responding to someone who willfully ignores all things Science and all things evolution. She also refuses to adhere to basic definitions of even the most common words used in the english language.

On top of all that, she then can’t NOT post like an adolescent with adhd.

Everybody knows this. What is your point?
Again…
 
That's not a real chart of how thngs really happened.
That's just a conjecture.





Below here, in this article is a given chart for elephants.
It doesn't include some of the creatures shown in your chart.



Once it reached Europe, the Palaeoloxodon antiquus had to adapt to new conditions.
One of its new homes was the island of Sicily and, as is common when large animals settle on an island, it evolved into a dwarf species.
This is a way for large animals to deal with the paucity of resources common on islands.

There’s a problem, though: DNA revealed some years ago that the Palaeoloxodon falconeri wasn’t descended from or related to any of the African elephant species as expected.
Its closest relative was actually the Asian elephant.


That made no sense. How could the straight-tusked elephant be related to African elephants and its dwarf descendant be related to Asian elephants? Was that study wrong? The new study, which examined Palaeoloxodon antiquus DNA, could help unravel the mystery.

This is because the Palaeoloxodon antiquus’ DNA appears to be a mixture of many species’ DNA, which would have happened when they interbred.
This process, known as admixture, probably occurred once Palaeoloxodon left Africa. That’s how its descendents ended up with Asian elephant DNA, and even DNA from the famous woolly mammoth.





They're from the same species or kinds, otherwise they wouldn't be able to interbreed.



It's................ADAPTATION!






Looks can deceive you!
😁


But when we get right down to it, what really make a species a species?
Organisms that look alike often belong to the same species, but this isn’t always the case.
I for one can't tell the African fish eagle and the bald eagle apart from the photos below. But they are, in fact, different species.

According to the biological species concept, organisms belong to the same species if they can interbreed to produce viable, fertile offspring.
Examples are rarely complete.
The point is that organisms evolve and adapt. If they were created by god why weren't they created as they would need to be. Additionally, the most successful (in terms of time on Earth would be dinosaurs. And god just decided to wipe them out?
 
That's not a real chart of how thngs really happened.
That's just a conjecture.





Below here, in this article is a given chart for elephants.
It doesn't include some of the creatures shown in your chart.



Once it reached Europe, the Palaeoloxodon antiquus had to adapt to new conditions.
One of its new homes was the island of Sicily and, as is common when large animals settle on an island, it evolved into a dwarf species.
This is a way for large animals to deal with the paucity of resources common on islands.

There’s a problem, though: DNA revealed some years ago that the Palaeoloxodon falconeri wasn’t descended from or related to any of the African elephant species as expected.
Its closest relative was actually the Asian elephant.


That made no sense. How could the straight-tusked elephant be related to African elephants and its dwarf descendant be related to Asian elephants? Was that study wrong? The new study, which examined Palaeoloxodon antiquus DNA, could help unravel the mystery.

This is because the Palaeoloxodon antiquus’ DNA appears to be a mixture of many species’ DNA, which would have happened when they interbred.
This process, known as admixture, probably occurred once Palaeoloxodon left Africa. That’s how its descendents ended up with Asian elephant DNA, and even DNA from the famous woolly mammoth.





They're from the same species or kinds, otherwise they wouldn't be able to interbreed.



It's................ADAPTATION!






Looks can deceive you!
😁


But when we get right down to it, what really make a species a species?
Organisms that look alike often belong to the same species, but this isn’t always the case.
I for one can't tell the African fish eagle and the bald eagle apart from the photos below. But they are, in fact, different species.

According to the biological species concept, organisms belong to the same species if they can interbreed to produce viable, fertile offspring.
Whether your amateur technical criticisms of taxonomic classification have any validity or not, it still doesn’t result in an iota of support for Biblical myth.

Here you’re referring to an ancestral elephant that lived 3-5 million years ago. No fossil evidence from that time period points modern humans existing then, and all hominid fossils from that time that we have found are of bipedal ape like hominid species, none of which still exist today.
 
Validity??? :ROFLMAO:
I know. But I'm saying even if. Even if there were valid opinions about taxonomic classification, e.g. biologists classified as a different genus something someone else thinks should be part of the same genus with something else, or that they all belong to the same species, that's ultimately just getting pedantic about taxonomic procedure and classification. It doesn't end up supporting creationist myth at all.
 
I know. But I'm saying even if. Even if there were valid opinions about taxonomic classification, e.g. biologists classified as a different genus something someone else thinks should be part of the same genus with something else, or that they all belong to the same species, that's ultimately just getting pedantic about taxonomic procedure and classification. It doesn't end up supporting creationist myth at all.
Nor does it debunk evolution.

It's just boring gainsaying by know nothings who have adopted the weaselly tactics of other know nothings.
 
Examples are rarely complete.
The point is that organisms evolve and adapt. If they were created by god why weren't they created as they would need to be.


.....they are incomplete.........................................because you guys are trying to fit your ideas into something it doesn't belong to. 🤷

If you do elephants like the chart given in my article - elephant chart seems consistent and complete.
They've ADAPTED and evolved. But.................they're still elephants.






Additionally, the most successful (in terms of time on Earth would be dinosaurs. And god just decided to wipe them out?

Perhaps..............................their purpose was done.
Part of design?





When much of Earth’s landmass was covered by huge shallow seas, God created large dinosaurs.
Thanks to the shallow seas, these large dinosaurs could take advantage of the shallow seas to support their huge body masses that otherwise would have been impossible to sustain.
The existence of a huge, diverse, and enduring population of dinosaurs during past eras when much of Earth’s continental landmass was covered by huge shallow seas significantly contributed to Earth’s present store of
biodeposits.
Examples of such biodeposits include limestone, marble, coal, oil, and natural gas.



Dinosaurs, therefore, are expressions of God’s love and generosity.
It is thanks in part to God’s creation of dinosaurs that humans possess more than 76 quadrillion tons of biodeposits that we can use to develop the civilization and technology to take the good news of salvation through Jesus Christ to billions of humans within just a few millennia.





How life blossomed after the dinosaurs died







Imagine the devastating impact they'll have on people and other life forms, had they not gone extinct.
 
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Dinosaurs, therefore, are expressions of God’s love and generosity.
It is thanks in part to God’s creation of dinosaurs that humans possess more than 76 quadrillion tons of biodeposits that we can use to develop the civilization and technology to take the good news of salvation through Jesus Christ to billions of humans within just a few millennia.

This whole thread just gets more and more strange.
 
you guys are trying to fit your ideas into something it doesn't belong to. 🤷
And then, barely a breath later, responding to why God would wipe out the dinosaurs:
Perhaps..............................their purpose was done.
Part of design?
It is so mind-bogglingly obvious how circular (assuming the conclusion) this is, and how it immediately displays what you just accused others of above.
When much of Earth’s landmass was covered by huge shallow seas, God created large dinosaurs.
Thanks to the shallow seas, these large dinosaurs could take advantage of the shallow seas to support their huge body masses that otherwise would have been impossible to sustain.
The existence of a huge, diverse, and enduring population of dinosaurs during past eras when much of Earth’s continental landmass was covered by huge shallow seas significantly contributed to Earth’s present store of biodeposits.
Examples of such biodeposits include limestone, marble, coal, oil, and natural gas.



Dinosaurs, therefore, are expressions of God’s love and generosity.
It is thanks in part to God’s creation of dinosaurs that humans possess more than 76 quadrillion tons of biodeposits that we can use to develop the civilization and technology to take the good news of salvation through Jesus Christ to billions of humans within just a few millennia.

How life blossomed after the dinosaurs died



Imagine the devastating impact they'll have on people and other life forms, had they not gone extinct.
This is so fallacious it's painful. The impact they did have on early mammals prevented mammals from evolving and "blossoming" (as your link points out) into larger and more diverse mammals for almost 100 million years. The earliest mammals for which we have found fossil evidence were around over 160 million years ago.

No anatomically modern human bones or fossils that show up anywhere in the fossil record that are older than about 250,000 years. The dinosaurs were gone 65 million years ago, so humans could have survived 60 million years ago with the dinosaurs being wiped out, if God would have bothered to create them, and yet anatomically modern humans do not show up in the fossil record until about 250,000. We have found 1-2 million year old homo erectus bones, 3-4 million year old Australopithecus bones, ~10 million year old dryopithecus bones, 20 million year old proconsul bones, 30 million year old Aegyptopithecus bones, and so on. Based on all fossil evidence we've ever found, none of these 5+ million year old animals exist today as they existed then, and no humans or hominids existed way back then that exist today. It's overwhelming how strongly this points to evolution and how strongly it points away from any religious story of creation.

You've acknowledged how microevolution happens within a species, within a geologically short period of time (hence the prefix 'micro'). But if you accumulate microevolutionary changes over tens of millions of years, the changes can be mindbogglingly vast. How? Tens of millions of years is a mindbogglingly long time.

If you could live for 2 millennia, you could have known Jesus personally. Two millennia is a really long time by our standards. If you wanted to rewind just 10 more millennia before that, you'd see humans were basically smart animals with tools. We hadn't even begun to develop agricultural methods a mere 12 millennia ago.

And yet if you wanted to rewind to the time when brachiosaurs and similar animals relied on shallow sea waters to support their enormous body masses, which you were just talking about in this post above, you would have to go back one hundred and forty-five thousand millennia. Less than two millennia since the New Testament was written, less than three millennia since the oldest Bible verses were written, 12 millennia since we even began to discover agricultural methods for our food.... One Hundred and Forty Five Thousand millennia since the dinosaurs you are talking about in your post above existed.
 
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