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"Nationalism is our Religion. Bandera is our Prophet!"

Juin

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New Year Day is celebrated around the world, but it has an even more special meaning in Ukraine. [Drum Roll] It is also the birthday of Ukraine's Arch Fiend Stepan Andriyovych Bandera; born January 1st 1909, somewhere in Austro-Hungary's Galicia. It is hard to resist the temptation to enquire whether three Waffen SS Fuhrers visited his crib bearing emblems; but that has to be set aside; the Waffen SS itself was still decades away. That should not and has not dampened New Year's Eve celebrations in Kyiv.

How the celebrations will take place this New Year Eve is not clear. Fireworks were common in past ears, along with torchlight processions by devotees of Bandera waving banners emblazoned with the Lion of the 14th Waffen SS Grenadier Division. Celebrations this year are gonna be tricky as for some strange reason Putin has invited himself to Kyiv. Not in person. Just hundreds of Made in Iran drones to liven up the occassion.

So, Stepan Bandera's birthday is not for the faint hearted. As a matter of fact last year's New Year celebration spooked Israel's Ambassador to Kyiv Joel Lion. Which was unfortunate, as this gentleman was moved to make statements unworthy of the great state of Israel and demeaning of Stepan Bandera. What appeared to have eluded the Ambassador from Israel is the fact that the President of Ukraine is a Jew. And since Ukraine dwarfs Israel, that makes Zelensky the most powerful Jew in the world. More to the point, and as the woke crowd have for the nth time pointed out, Ukraine having a Jew as President contradicts any claims Ukraine may have a case of endemic Nazism. Simple, since the President of Ukraine is a Jew any accusation against Ukraine of Nazism must be False. Terrific!

But I digress. How is the New Year celebrations unfolding in Kyiv?


Hundreds march in Ukraine in annual tribute to Nazi collaborator​

Hundreds march in Ukraine in annual tribute to Nazi collaborator

Stepan Bandera led the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which fought alongside Nazi Germany during the Second World War, killed thousands of Jews and Poles
www.timesofisrael.com






 
Hundreds, you say?
 
Your article is a year old. What makes you think there will be any such celebration this year?
 
Oh.. I thought this thread was about the American far right.. Nothing is more important to them now than nationalism, politics and hating liberals..
 
MamboDervish said:
Your article is a year old. What makes you think there will be any such celebration this year?
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There were "fireworks" in Kyiv today. It would be a shame if Stepan Bandera's birthday was not marked by fireworks.
 
Juin said:
There were "fireworks" in Kyiv today. It would be a shame if Stepan Bandera's birthday was not marked by fireworks.
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Wow! Were there HUNDREDS of fireworks?!?!?!
 
"Hundreds"
 
Probably less than there were last year.
 

15,000 Ukraine nationalists march for divisive Bandera

About 15,000 people marched through Kiev on Wednesday night to honor Stepan Bandera, glorified by some as a leader of Ukraine's liberation movement and dismissed by others as a Nazi collaborator.
eu.usatoday.com

Definitely less than during the Maidan.
 
Nazi collaborators, you say? Wait till you hear all the totally non genocidal and non white supremacist shit American nationalist icons did.

Whose deeds I guarantee more than 15,000 Americans celebrate every year.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Nazi collaborators, you say? Wait till you hear all the totally non genocidal and non white supremacist shit American nationalist icons did.

Whose deeds I guarantee more than 15,000 Americans celebrate every year.
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The key here is to try to make Ukrainian nationalism out to be a problem and handwave Russian nationalism so vulgar they deny the Ukrainian right to exist as an independent nation.

A country still celebrating Joseph Stalin doesn't get to throw those stones.

Russians celebrate Stalin's birthday in Red Square

Supporters of former Communist dictator Josef Stalin laid flowers on his grave Tuesday to mark the 131st anniversary of his birth in a show of support at a time when his legacy is hotly debated in Russia.
www.reuters.com

The Ukrainian genocide perpetrated by this man killed between 3.5 and 7 million people.

I don't have to spend paragraphs explaining who Joseph Stalin is, so, people can see the difference in historical significance between him and Stepan Andriyovych Bandera.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Nazi collaborators, you say? Wait till you hear all the totally non genocidal and non white supremacist shit American nationalist icons did.

Whose deeds I guarantee more than 15,000 Americans celebrate every year.
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15,000? Holy Cow!!!!!!

That's what? 0.0045% of the entire nation!!!! OMG!
 
@Juin should watch the first few minutes of this:

 

Nazi collaborators like Stepan Bandera are scum, and if “Ukrainian nationalism” requires their celebration that likewise should be condemned.

The sheer desperation to defend SS goosesteppers by blubbering about Stalin is, likewise, pathetic.

Be better.
 

BUT BANDERA!!!!!!!!
 
Juin said:
There were "fireworks" in Kyiv today. It would be a shame if Stepan Bandera's birthday was not marked by fireworks.
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?HUH? There were fireworks throughout my neighborhood, too. I'd be surprised if a single one of them was celebrating Bandera's birthday. Astonished even.

It's New Years!!
 

I made a comparison. One country has a small nationalist contingent, and the other is based upon a toxic nationalist cult and is currently invading them because of it.

Stalin is the reason Ukraine exists, rightfully independently to Russia, not Stephan Bandera.
 

Except it isn’t small; Bandera has become seen as a hero widely in recent years. And that certainly is toxic.

And yes, Stalin’s defeat of the Germans Stepan Bandera collaborated with is indeed the reason Ukraine exists,
 
Tigerace117 said:
Except it isn’t small; Bandera has become seen as a hero widely in recent years. And that certainly is toxic.

And yes, Stalin’s defeat of the Germans Stepan Bandera collaborated with is indeed the reason Ukraine exists,
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Ukraine exists today as it does, separate from Russia because of all the people Stalin murdered there to achieve his aims.

If your retort is "there were worse options" then make it the reply to your own position in this thread.
 
Variant said:
Ukraine exists today as it does, separate from Russia because of all the people Stalin murdered there to achieve his aims.

If your retort is "there were worse options" then make it the reply to your own position in this thread.
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It exists because the goosesteppers Bandera collaborated with were crushed.

You squirming, desperate to avoid that fact doesn’t change it.
 
Tigerace117 said:
It exists because the goosesteppers Bandera collaborated with were crushed.

You squirming, desperate to avoid that fact doesn’t change it.
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My argument is pretty simple and it doesn't even have to care about Bandera.
 
Variant said:
My argument is pretty simple and it doesn't even have to care about Bandera.
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The simple facts are that Bandera was a Nazi collaborator, not a hero of any sort, and should not be celebrated.

Period.
 
Tigerace117 said:
The simple facts are that Bandera was a Nazi collaborator, not a hero of any sort, and should not be celebrated.

Period.
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No one said he should be. Ukrainian nationalism is by and far more influenced by having been ruled by Russia in the not too distant past.

They'll have better and more influential nationalists to look to once they win the current war of aggression against the proper NATZI's invading them.
 
Variant said:
No one said he should be. Ukrainian nationalism is by and far more influenced by having been ruled by Russia in the not too distant past.
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Downplaying the issue doesn’t make it go away.
 
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