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My thoughts exactly

Were you circumcised? I was and don't remember it at all. Yeah, I'm sure that's the reason.
Good job missing the point, so you're ok with mandatory abortion as long as we put the woman under do she doesn't remember it. Fantastic mastery of logic you have.
 
Using that logic, I guess its ok for parents to cut off their newborns arm because they won't remember it at all.
I think most parents (note: "parents" not mother, not father, parents) circumcised their boys because almost all other boys were also circumcised. It was not something people thought very long about. In retrospect maybe boys should be allowed to decide for themselves.
 
Right to an extreme, why not their heads, for sure they won't remember that? Do you remember anything before the age of four? I don't.

I do! At 3, clear memories of the campground the summer I turned 3 and my cousin's future husband, who I thought was a cowboy. I also remember my birthday party that summer.

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It generally protects the penis. There are other benefits. His body, his choice. When he turns 18, if he doesn't want it, he can have it removed.

From what? And again...please address the millions and millions of American men's suffering. What is it?

Minors dont generally get "my body, my choice," do they? That's what their parents are responsible for. What is the abuse here?

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From what? And again...please address the millions and millions of American men's suffering. What is it?
Open a thread about it and we can go into the level of detail you desire. You can also google some info, or ask ChatGPT. You have several resources available.

Minors dont generally get "my body, my choice," do they?
They do, actualy:
"... Because the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that states may not give parents an absolute veto over their child's decision to have an abortion, most state parental involvement requirements include a judicial bypass procedure that allows a minor to receive court approval for an abortion without their parents’ knowledge or consent. ..."

You can't FORCE your daughter to have an abortion, so you shouldn't be able to FORCE your son to have a circumcision.
 
Open a thread about it and we can go into the level of detail you desire. You can also google some info, or ask ChatGPT. You have several resources available.

No. I feel that I've sufficiently invalidated it. If you feel you need to start a thread on it, feel free. I've seen it before, it's mostly opinion and cultural. It does not particularly interest me. When relevant, I would have discussed it with a partner...not an infant :D

They do, actualy:
"... Because the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that states may not give parents an absolute veto over their child's decision to have an abortion, most state parental involvement requirements include a judicial bypass procedure that allows a minor to receive court approval for an abortion without their parents’ knowledge or consent. ..."

Nobody said "absolute." Parents cant kill their minor children, can they? Or abuse them? Come on, stay classy.

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Good job missing the point, so you're ok with mandatory abortion as long as we put the woman under do she doesn't remember it. Fantastic mastery of logic you have.
You are comparing circumcision to abortion and you are questioning my logic?
 
It generally protects the penis. There are other benefits. His body, his choice. When he turns 18, if he doesn't want it, he can have it removed.
From what? I was circumcised and my penis has never gotten sick. His body, his choice but that logic from Republicans doesn't seem to apply to women for some reason or other?
 
Maybe neither. I'm expressing that 'my body my choice' doesn't seem to be the universal ethic that it should be.
Because of republicans and independents...so called independents.
 
Urin, feces, rubbing, dryness, some injuries, there's probably more. The point was the foreskin serves a purpose.
Urin? Do you shit on your dick? Rubbing, dryness, huh?
 
It generally protects the penis. There are other benefits. His body, his choice. When he turns 18, if he doesn't want it, he can have it removed.
Circumcision rates have been declining for the past 2 decades.

The reason so many people circumcised is typically either religious or “normalcy” meaning if the father was circumcised, they automatically just circumcised the son.

There is very little medical cause for it.

But there is also no correlation between the two medical procedures. And no need to legislate either.
 
Circumcision rates have been declining for the past 2 decades.

The reason so many people circumcised is typically either religious or “normalcy” meaning if the father was circumcised, they automatically just circumcised the son.

There is very little medical cause for it.

But there is also no correlation between the two medical procedures. And no need to legislate either.
Just don't be surprised when boys who's body was permanently modified by a woman think it's ok to control women's bodies in turn.
 
Just don't be surprised when boys who's body was permanently modified by a woman think it's ok to control women's bodies in turn.

By a woman? Not both parents? Not the father that wants him to "look like him?"

Ah now we see it...the misogyny just leaking out all over. That's pretty funny...you didnt even realize it, did you, when you wrote that? Wow.

And you're using that fake victimization to justify denying women abortions :rolleyes:

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