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Sure, his positions seem a bit extreme for some, but he has been known to work with the other side to get things done. When you are negotiating, the best tactic is to ask for way more than what you want, then bargain down to what you are actually aiming for. Ronald Reagan was good at doing that, and I believe that Paul Ryan is also adept at that game. Fact is, with an electorate divided down the middle, you are going to have to make compromises. "My way or the highway" won't work, because there is no real mandate at this time, one way or the other.
And face it. Neither Cruz nor Trump have a snowball's chance of winning the election this year. The GOP's best chance is a contested convention, where Ryan ends up the nominee.
Discussion?
Sure, his positions seem a bit extreme for some, but he has been known to work with the other side to get things done. When you are negotiating, the best tactic is to ask for way more than what you want, then bargain down to what you are actually aiming for. Ronald Reagan was good at doing that, and I believe that Paul Ryan is also adept at that game. Fact is, with an electorate divided down the middle, you are going to have to make compromises. "My way or the highway" won't work, because there is no real mandate at this time, one way or the other.
And face it. Neither Cruz nor Trump have a snowball's chance of winning the election this year. The GOP's best chance is a contested convention, where Ryan ends up the nominee.
Discussion?
1. Ryan does not want the post (honestly)
2. Ryan has not run at all.
3. Ryan's major disagreement with conservatives (immigration) is perhaps the (certainly "one of the") most salient issue(s) this year.
4. Tossing out all the voters? Telling their base to go F Themselves?
The Party would be within it's legal right to do so. Personally I think that Ryan would be a fantastic candidate, and a great President. I would love to see it. But I think that his nomination at convention would risk blowing up the party.
If we get to Ballot #8 or 9, and there is no way to get anyone who actually is in the running across the 50% threshold, at that point, I can see it. But it's gonna make problems in the GOP.
Sure, his positions seem a bit extreme for some, but he has been known to work with the other side to get things done. When you are negotiating, the best tactic is to ask for way more than what you want, then bargain down to what you are actually aiming for. Ronald Reagan was good at doing that, and I believe that Paul Ryan is also adept at that game. Fact is, with an electorate divided down the middle, you are going to have to make compromises. "My way or the highway" won't work, because there is no real mandate at this time, one way or the other.
And face it. Neither Cruz nor Trump have a snowball's chance of winning the election this year. The GOP's best chance is a contested convention, where Ryan ends up the nominee.
Discussion?
Sure, his positions seem a bit extreme for some, but he has been known to work with the other side to get things done. When you are negotiating, the best tactic is to ask for way more than what you want, then bargain down to what you are actually aiming for. Ronald Reagan was good at doing that, and I believe that Paul Ryan is also adept at that game. Fact is, with an electorate divided down the middle, you are going to have to make compromises. "My way or the highway" won't work, because there is no real mandate at this time, one way or the other.
And face it. Neither Cruz nor Trump have a snowball's chance of winning the election this year. The GOP's best chance is a contested convention, where Ryan ends up the nominee.
Discussion?
Sure, his positions seem a bit extreme for some, but he has been known to work with the other side to get things done. When you are negotiating, the best tactic is to ask for way more than what you want, then bargain down to what you are actually aiming for. Ronald Reagan was good at doing that, and I believe that Paul Ryan is also adept at that game. Fact is, with an electorate divided down the middle, you are going to have to make compromises. "My way or the highway" won't work, because there is no real mandate at this time, one way or the other.
And face it. Neither Cruz nor Trump have a snowball's chance of winning the election this year. The GOP's best chance is a contested convention, where Ryan ends up the nominee.
Discussion?
It looks like you may be right since Ryan is going to announce today that he won't accept the nomination under any circumstances. :lol:
Paul Ryan to rule out presidential bid - CNNPolitics.com
Sure, his positions seem a bit extreme for some, but he has been known to work with the other side to get things done. When you are negotiating, the best tactic is to ask for way more than what you want, then bargain down to what you are actually aiming for. Ronald Reagan was good at doing that, and I believe that Paul Ryan is also adept at that game. Fact is, with an electorate divided down the middle, you are going to have to make compromises. "My way or the highway" won't work, because there is no real mandate at this time, one way or the other.
And face it. Neither Cruz nor Trump have a snowball's chance of winning the election this year. The GOP's best chance is a contested convention, where Ryan ends up the nominee.
Discussion?
I don't think he wants to run for POTUS, but I agree with every point you were trying to make. I like Paul Ryan.
It looks like you may be right since Ryan is going to announce today that he won't accept the nomination under any circumstances. :lol:
Paul Ryan to rule out presidential bid - CNNPolitics.com
Actually, Trump...in his business dealings...has a history of using that tactic you support so what makes you think he won't use it as President? Ryan doesn't have a lock on that ability.
Cruz, on the other hand, has more of a history of "my way or the highway" combined with "I'll lie and cheat and play political games to get what I want"...kind of like Obama's tactics.
As far as having a chance at getting elected, I'll wait and see what the polls say AFTER the candidates are selected for the two Parties.
Yea, Trump has that ability, but has alienated most of the Independents, so has no chance at all of winning, should he be nominated. In addition, a lot of Republicans will just stay home if he is the nominee.
Sure, his positions seem a bit extreme for some, but he has been known to work with the other side to get things done. When you are negotiating, the best tactic is to ask for way more than what you want, then bargain down to what you are actually aiming for. Ronald Reagan was good at doing that, and I believe that Paul Ryan is also adept at that game. Fact is, with an electorate divided down the middle, you are going to have to make compromises. "My way or the highway" won't work, because there is no real mandate at this time, one way or the other.
And face it. Neither Cruz nor Trump have a snowball's chance of winning the election this year. The GOP's best chance is a contested convention, where Ryan ends up the nominee.
Discussion?
Republicans don't need to work with the other side, they control Majorities.
Sure, his positions seem a bit extreme for some, but he has been known to work with the other side to get things done. When you are negotiating, the best tactic is to ask for way more than what you want, then bargain down to what you are actually aiming for. Ronald Reagan was good at doing that, and I believe that Paul Ryan is also adept at that game. Fact is, with an electorate divided down the middle, you are going to have to make compromises. "My way or the highway" won't work, because there is no real mandate at this time, one way or the other.
And face it. Neither Cruz nor Trump have a snowball's chance of winning the election this year. The GOP's best chance is a contested convention, where Ryan ends up the nominee.
Discussion?
Not exactly. They control majorities in Congress, but don't have the votes to override a veto. In addition, they will lose the Senate this year, due to too many Republican seats up for grabs in blue districts. They should take the Senate back in 2018, but that will be 2 years away. And with a choice of Trump or Cruz as the nominee, GOP chances for the presidency are nil. Seems like you have that slash and burn mentality that other extremists have. I hate to disappoint you, but unless you are willing to deal with the other side, you have no chance whatsoever of passing any part of your agenda. It's all about pragmatism. Ideology alone is a losing proposition, especially when that ideology is out of the mainstream.
Why do people think this is a great time for the republican party to ignore their base? Do people realize that is a major reason they have been experiencing so much backlash from their base in the first place?
On that note though, when is it ever a good time to ignore your base and nominate someone that no one voted for?
Not exactly. They control majorities in Congress, but don't have the votes to override a veto. In addition, they will lose the Senate this year, due to too many Republican seats up for grabs in blue districts. They should take the Senate back in 2018, but that will be 2 years away. And with a choice of Trump or Cruz as the nominee, GOP chances for the presidency are nil. Seems like you have that slash and burn mentality that other extremists have. I hate to disappoint you, but unless you are willing to deal with the other side, you have no chance whatsoever of passing any part of your agenda. It's all about pragmatism. Ideology alone is a losing proposition, especially when that ideology is out of the mainstream.
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