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I tried to write a reply to this whole Mosque-in-Cologne-causing-anger thing but the forum timed me out and bounced me away from where the topic was. Dunno where it was now, so here's the text on its own:
Nothing new here, unfortunately. In London we're supposed to have this mega-mosque dwarfing all around it, the 'community leaders' have been clamouring to have their wailing and screeching bellowing out through speakers across the spires of old Oxford at six in the morning, and in Manchester now new Muslim owners of a church have levelled the graveyard for a car park.
It's happening over and over. This is the cultural clash hitting us square in the face and it just won't stop until we stop it. How? Well, think for yourself as nobody in power will lend an ear to the rest of us.
The 'active' vanguard of supremacist Muslims (and I'm not just talking of Anjem Choudary and the 'lyrical terrorist' who kept dildos under her bed because her insane doctrine forbad normal relations) are on the march and it's damn obvious to everyone that they want to set their flag, entrench their culture and establish their no-go ghettos in the most 'radicalised' areas of our scumbag inner cities.
This isn't just about mosques, it's about massive complexes designed to overpower, which is why they all want the big multi-million-Pound buildings with the minarets. And so soon after bitching all their lives about British colonialism and its tokens! They've had dhimmi politicians and government officials enact barmy legislation exempting Muslim butchers from certain animal rights laws, helped set the Sharia courts which oppress and have not stood up to them when some barmy legal case involving women and plaster pigs goes to court. Recent polls, even by the likes of Channel Four, show up to a quarter of 'British' Muslims sympathise with extremists or that just-about most think British culture is sub-par and ripe for replacement by Sharia.
Ordinary people have to watch what they say, think and do, lest some council official gets upset at the behest of some swivel-headed zealot. You can't eat in front of them during Ramadan else you'll be sacked from your job in the council! We have to show 'awareness', 'tolerance' and show 'outreach' to a group of people who don't often seem to show a bit of care for the rest, particularly Sikhs, Jews and homos.
Islam is the most aggressively imperialist faith so who can be surprised when their followers do what their culture has taught them? Indeed, an EC-sponsored book from 1979 advised Muslims In Non-Muslim Countries not to assimilate and to build up large ethno-religious blocs to storm the political establishments with.
But the people who are really to blame are the politicians who grovel, who betray their people and who cower before 'community leaders' who threaten riots if they're not acquiessed to and paid protection money. We get them anyway, as the burnt ruins of Northern Europe can prove.
We've got a fifth column, an enemy within who must be curbed somehow. But until our governments get fearless and start rejecting the pushy and mass-expelling the dangerous, this menace shall only grow.
I just pity the 'ordinary' Muslims who just want to get on with life, as before long they'll be caught between a frustrated and compromised public and the grown band of extremists who want to induct every last one. It's coming to that.
Because Russian Catholics are hardly a ticking timebomb (to use an unfortunate phrase). They are an assimilatable and benign people with (as far as I'm aware) no hard crust of dogmatic fanatics seeking to leave their deep cultural imprint on the UK.
-- Nothing new here, unfortunately. In London we're supposed to have this mega-mosque dwarfing all around it
-- entrench their culture and establish their no-go ghettos in the most 'radicalised' areas of our scumbag inner cities.
-- enact barmy legislation exempting Muslim butchers from certain animal rights laws, helped set the Sharia courts
the question should rather be "should there be a maximum quota of immigrants" IMO
-- When the proportion of foreigners reaches 60 or 70% in many districts of our capital cities
-- and that they start transforming the landscape (by building giant mosques for example)
-- They say that in 50-200 years time (depending on which paper you read), the white British (of whatever European origin) shall be an ethnic minority across the UK, with all the cultural and genetic exchanges that implies--
Been through this with Wessexman in another thread - migrants settle where the work (demand for them) and prices are right. That's not their fault.
In the past, to immigrate to the United States one had to have a US citizen sponsor and a job already lined up. Don't know if this is still true....they don't have any chance to get a good job
In the past, to immigrate to the United States one had to have a US citizen sponsor and a job already lined up. Don't know if this is still true.
And as for the Muslim population explosion, people supporting this thesis have worked on the premise that whilst the 'white indigenous' population remains static, Asian Muslim families tend to have 4 babies on average. And in some places there are Muslim population percentages larger than the others, a fact which for many of us seems a portent of things to come.
Probably it all boils down to the fact that Russian Orthodox Priests don't routinely tell you that boys named Petrov are willing to blow up your grandmother, and they'll get into a brothel-like paradise for doing so.Why are you not complaining about the "giant" Russian orthodox cathedral in london?
Those who champion the wearing of Burkhas (as some sort of women's empowerment, no less :roll,the creation of duel legal systems , and other measures designed to accomidate regressive attitudes towards women will end up creating not only a higher Muslim birth rate, but the very sort of scenario those they view as alarmist now fear.
Secularism usually yields less children per female. This is noticeable in Israel also. Orthodox females almost always have more children than secular females.Other than that, i do agree that the key to the birthrate lie in the females. Those newly arrived will bring with them the culture of their home country.
Secularism usually yields less children per female. This is noticeable in Israel also. Orthodox females almost always have more children than secular females.
I suppose it could very well be education in many cases. However, both Orthodox and secular Israeli females are well educated.isn't it rather about education?
If after three generations they are not proficient in the language of what is now their native country, it may be safely assumed that they have little interest in being productive members of society.Indeed they're looking for work, but unfortunately there isn't any work anymore. In the parts of Brussels where most of the immigrants settle, unemployment reaches 40 or 50%. Unfortunately, most of them don't have any diploma (even the 2nd & 3rd generations rarely have more than a high school degree), they usually can't speak Dutch and English and their French is not always very good...they don't have any chance to get a good job
If after three generations they are not proficient in the language of what is now their native country, it may be safely assumed that they have little interest in being productive members of society.
Assimilation is the ONLY approach that will avoid future strife.
Maybe so but how do you assimilate people?
Maybe so but how do you assimilate people?
Who are these individuals or European countries who champion the use of burkas as empowerment of women?
No no.
It is merely us telling the Government to stay out of personal space.
any who stress that it is the woman's CHOICE while completely ignoring the coercive nature involved.
But it's o.k. for Muslim men to do so?
What happens when wearing a Burkha becomes so commonplace in Britain that you run the risk of being attacked for not doing so, yourself? Do you continue to wear western cloths and receive a smiley or worse, do you wear the burkha or what? How much of a choice will it be for you, really?
How much is it for the women currently doing so?
I don't think the mega-mosque has actually been cancelled. And even if it was, that wouldn't stop the people who want it crying out for it.
To be clearer, it's only the scumbags to be scorned, not the cities. Otherwise the architects of the once-pristine tower blocks, community centres and parks would have drawn in the smashed bus shelters, gutted cars, litter tips, drug dens, assaulted men, raped women and vandalised houses.
culture's wasted on the vermin of society.
-- I think everybody should live under the same laws. There are plenty to safeguard everybody, leastways in principle.
the Muslim population explosion
And in some places there are Muslim population percentages larger than the others, a fact which for many of us seems a portent of things to come.
There's quite a few odds and ends to look at amongst this pile: muslim population explosion - Google Search
-- It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the key to Muslim population growth in Europe --
Maybe so but how do you assimilate people?
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