Muslim flight attendant: I was suspended for not serving alcohol

[Manc Skipper]

She started with the airline three years ago, became a Muslim last year, but only realised the alcohol thing recently.

 

[beefheart]

As I understand it she told them when hiring that she would not serve alcohol.
If that is true then no she should not have been fired. What should have happened is she should not have been hired in the first place.

I would expect 100% that she had to sign a job description, and I can tell you that selling alcohol was part of that description.

Even so, she can't claim ignorance.

 

[Quag]

She started with the airline three years ago, became a Muslim last year, but only realised the alcohol thing recently.

Appartently my understanding was wrong then.

 

[Gardener]

Just feel fortunate, myself, that the church I just decided to join says it is my employer who should serve me beer ...... and not just any beer, either, but Russian River Brewing "Pliny the Elder".

I never realized this finding religion stuff was so fun, but if anybody else is interested in joining the First Church of The Holy Hops, I would be glad to send them the literature.

 

[Chomsky]

Hell, that was a long time ago, I think she quit.

This current case is even tougher, she if flying on the regional jets. Some of them only have one flight attendant (50 seaters). So...there is no accommodation the airline can make. She has zero case.

Thanks.

Yeah, CNN alluded to many of the flights being single attendant staffed.

Also, other attendants have been complaining of undue hardship on themselves.

My suspicion: If the other attendants and management close ranks, she's toast.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Do you think it was right to suspend this Muslim woman for refusing to serve alcohol because it was against her faith?

FARMINGTON HILLS, Mich. -- A Muslim flight attendant filed a complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission claiming she was suspended from her job for not serving alcohol, which is against her religious beliefs, CBS Detroit station WWJ-AM reports.

Lena Masri, an attorney for the Council on American-Islamic Relations Michigan, said Charee Stanley followed management's directions, working out an arrangement with her coworkers to accommodate passenger requests for alcohol.

However, Masri said, ExpressJet Airlines put Stanley on administrative leave after another attendant filed "an Islamophobic complaint" that referenced Stanley's head scarf.
Muslim flight attendant accuses ExpressJet Airlines of suspending her for not serving alcohol - CBS News

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Let's see..

Pizza shop owners get death threats for simply saying they wouldn't cater a gay wedding, this woman takes a job involving the serving of alcohol, and then refuses to do so.

Based on the pizza shop example, she must be taken out and shot this instant

 

[Fearandloathing]

She started with the airline three years ago, became a Muslim last year, but only realised the alcohol thing recently.

Then to honor her faith, she not only must not serve it, but be in a confined place where it is. She should have realized becoming a Muslim would have consequences....

 

[reinoe]

I have a feeling "finding religion" is going to be the hot new trick for people with persecution complexes.

 

[Chomsky]

Let's see..

Pizza shop owners get death threats for simply saying they wouldn't cater a gay wedding, this woman takes a job involving the serving of alcohol, and then refuses to do so.

Based on the pizza shop example, she must be taken out and shot this instant

And to follow:

She won't be qualified for a serving job in that pizzeria, either! :mrgreen:

 

[Cardinal]

A "not" joke? Did I roll out of bed this morning and land in 1992?

Think of the money you could have made on the tech bubble.

Also: going through airport security without taking your shoes off.

 

[Mason66]

Since when are people owed a job? She decided she couldn't do the job, she should have quit at that point. Why did she run to the government to settle this for her?

 

[DDD]

Well good on you, and now you can **** OFF and take that ****ING religion with you to wherever the hell your way of stubborn people can tolerate it more to these levels!

 

[PoS]

Ive been on a number of flights on Middle Eastern airlines and lemme tell you, even when you don't want an alcoholic drink they will offer it anyway! :drink

I was on biz class from Barcelona to Dubai once and I was feeling sick and hung over but they still kept waking me up to offer wine and cocktails.

 

[AmericanSpartan]

Do you think it was right to suspend this Muslim woman for refusing to serve alcohol because it was against her faith?

FARMINGTON HILLS, Mich. -- A Muslim flight attendant filed a complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission claiming she was suspended from her job for not serving alcohol, which is against her religious beliefs, CBS Detroit station WWJ-AM reports.

Lena Masri, an attorney for the Council on American-Islamic Relations Michigan, said Charee Stanley followed management's directions, working out an arrangement with her coworkers to accommodate passenger requests for alcohol.

However, Masri said, ExpressJet Airlines put Stanley on administrative leave after another attendant filed "an Islamophobic complaint" that referenced Stanley's head scarf.
Muslim flight attendant accuses ExpressJet Airlines of suspending her for not serving alcohol - CBS News

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Do not like it? Leave, we are done playing nice to avoid hurting feelings.

 

[DDD]

Yup, they were absolutely within their rights legally. Was it the right thing to do? I can't answer that....is she a good employee? Can someone else on the plane serve the alcohol?

Enough said, do your damn job. It was wrong to suspend her, she should have been fired on the spot.

She has the face to complain that the airplane company is not assimilated into her religious values (at the price of their own) and not only let her not drink, but also stop everyone else from drinking it!

This is exactly what I am dealing with here! They are so selfish and self-absorbed! They do not drink so no one else should by default!!! :censored

 

[DDD]

Do not like it? Leave, we are done playing nice to avoid hurting feelings.

But Allah says she is right and you are wrong, and that all of you must change to her religious values in order in order to both please Allah and beg her afterwards to remain at that job!

 

[CanadaJohn]

LOL....if she was an evangelical Christian you would be singing a different tune.

The smug superiority of your posts lacks any intelligence to back it up. You know nothing about me and clearly know zero about the basis of my views. But hey, liberals be liberals and always will be.

 

[chromium]

i want to ask where all the kim davis "religious liberty" wackos are on this one?

 

[AmericanSpartan]

But Allah says she is right and you are wrong, and that all of you must change to her religious values in order in order to both please Allah and beg her afterwards to remain at that job!

Then she can **** off back to arab land.

 

[tres borrachos]

Nonsense. There is no need for the courts to get involved in this, unlike the Kim Davis case.

I think she was being facetious.

 

[tres borrachos]

Thanks. The law doesn't require employers to bend over backwards to accommodate employees but they are supposed to try.

That's what I was getting at in my post. Was she a good employee? Could someone else do the task she refused to do? I think employers should make an effort to accommodate good employees as long as it does not put an undue hardship on the other employees or the employer as a whole, financially or otherwise.

 

[QuadpolarNutjob]

That's what I was getting at in my post. Was she a good employee? Could someone else do the task she refused to do? I think employers should make an effort to accommodate good employees as long as it does not put an undue hardship on the other employees or the employer as a whole, financially or otherwise.

so, you would agree that a christian employee should not have to provide marriage licenses to homosexual couples, if there are other employees who could do the task they refuse to do?

 

[tres borrachos]

so, you would agree that a christian employee should not have to provide marriage licenses to homosexual couples, if there are other employees who could do the task they refuse to do?

First off, we aren't talking about Kim Davis. Secondly, Kim Davis is a government official elected to perform a job. This is a private airline who hired this woman and I was talking about what I would do as a private employer giving accomondations. Please, when quoting me, don't attempt to bring me off topic. As more than a few people have pointed out, this isn't the same as the Kim Davis situation.

 

[cpwill]

Private Employer : they can fire her if they want.

However: it would be right (morally) of them to try not to. If they really can't get around it without creating a significant burden on other employees, then I get it, but if it's a matter of making a shuffle of people, or having one attendant handle all the alcohol while she handles all the non-alcohol, then they should (and should not be required to) try to do so.

 

[reinoe]

Private Employer : they can fire her if they want.

However: it would be right (morally) of them to try not to. If they really can't get around it without creating a significant burden on other employees, then I get it, but if it's a matter of making a shuffle of people, or having one attendant handle all the alcohol while she handles all the non-alcohol, then they should (and should not be required to) try to do so.

Firing her is the only option because she would often be the only flight attendant on that particular route...or at least that's my understanding of it. Not that it really matters. I'd be really pissed if one of my co-workers suddenly developed a religious objection to performing some odious aspect of a job and made everyone else do it instead.

The only people who should be given a pass is a person with a documented disability.