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Dude...don't use lies about me to justify your delusions.
Dude, do you really want me to pull up those posts?
Dude...don't use lies about me to justify your delusions.
shrug...
As I keep saying...the farmers should have seen this coming...and done something about it...instead of pissing and moaning now.
Why didn't the farms use our guest worker program for farm workers called the H-2A Temporary Agricultural Program? If farms are shutting down, it's their fault for hiring under the table. It will also be their fault for higher prices at the grocery store. Don't blame ICE or Trump for what the farmers could have done but didn't do.
n a stunningly swift overnight change, some Texas farm operations had to shut down after losing virtually all of their workforce, an exodus triggered by the increase in immigration raids and increased enforcement. The ripple effects of these raids are the gift that keeps on giving and will be felt nationwide: unpicked crops are now left unharvested, livestock were left untended, and rural economies are on edge.
This story isn’t just a tale of woe for Texan farms; it's a warning for American agribusiness, food prices, and the communities that keep food on our plates. So, let's examine what effect these raids have on agriculture, livestock, workers, and the American public.
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Expect higher prices in grocery stores all over the country...
shrug...Dude, do you really want me to pull up those posts?
shrug...
You are free to pull up whatever you want and to spin it however you want. You are still lying.
Multiple Texas Farms Shut Down After ‘Almost 100%’ Of Workforce Vanishes Overnight
Maybe those farmers should have been proactive about their employment practices instead of hiding their heads in the sand. I mean, it's not like they didn't know their illegal alien employees would be targeted for deportation.
I know what I've said. If you have a point...make it.Do you recall you explanation for why Trump did the tariffs the way he did?
Let's explain to them who made out on that deal. I bolded the correct answer above.The employers were hiring these guys because they didn't pay taxes on the wages. So yeah, it was cheap, for the employer and employee. The taxpayer picked up the tab for unpaid taxes and social services.
Most undocumented immigrants don't enter illegally. They enter legally and overstay.Overstays would suffer a fine and possibly be required to leave for a defined period or permanently.
It sets a precedent to be followed for those who enter illegally in the future, who will have evidence that they will not be allowed to remain when they enter illegally, and should they ignore the law they will be documented thoroughly with a lengthy time before they would be allowed to attempt legal entry.
That's and issue which could easily be solved by a national ID smart card being required to be possessed by all for quick ID.
In a perfect world, sure. Do we live in one? Not that I've experienced. You're oversimplifying the issues that currently exist.Sad that the above needs to be said. I guess there will always be those who would rather play the blame game than to realize all this could have been avoided if the farmers did what they were supposed to do. Hire through the H-2A Visa program.
Multiple Texas Farms Shut Down After ‘Almost 100%’ Of Workforce Vanishes Overnight
Maybe those farmers should have been proactive about their employment practices instead of hiding their heads in the sand. I mean, it's not like they didn't know their illegal alien employees would be targeted for deportation.
Why didn't the farms use our guest worker program for farm workers called the H-2A Temporary Agricultural Program? If farms are shutting down, it's their fault for hiring under the table. It will also be their fault for higher prices at the grocery store. Don't blame ICE or Trump for what the farmers could have done but didn't do.
No way to tell. I doubt @trixare4kids would admit to knowing something that directly contradicts her beliefs.I'm guessing you don't know that most of those folks have Green Cards, and the Green Card Holders are being picked up and scheduled for deportation anyway. So the workers were legal, but hey, who cares. We need the numbers to show Trump is winning!
There are those who have entered legally and those who have entered illegally.Most undocumented immigrants don't enter illegally. They enter legally and overstay.
You can implement your "papers at the border" idea for new arrivals and implement papers for people already here. On the back, you can say that after a grace period, anyone caught working without a 90-day work would permanently lose the right to work in the US. There would be MASSIVE compliance.
I'm in favor of a national smart ID card, but forcing all citizens to carry their ID at all times would NOT be popular.
Well, them and American consumers and the American government and American corporations.shrug...
If it's a catch 22, it's because the producers have made it so.
Instead of deciding to break the law in order to gain profit, they could very well put their efforts into changing the law.
I don't have the money for the required lobbyists. They do. And, since it's their profit on the line, they need to spend the money.Well, them and American consumers and the American government and American corporations.
So, America, basically.
I agree. But then, so could you, if you were willing to acknowledge reality and attempt to work within it.
Unless, of course, you are strictly disciplined to ensure that nothing you buy has been made cheaper through illegal labor. If you can prove that's the case, then I'll retract. Otherwise you're a part of it, bud, like it or not.
Huh?I've never been more free.
Yes, why resolve issues when you can perpetually complain about them?
Because it doesnt work. O ly allows a tiny fractiom of the necessary labor in..Why didn't the farms use our guest worker program for farm workers called the H-2A Temporary Agricultural Program?
no its the governments fault for not fixing the legal immigration stsytem so it meets the needs of the American economy.If farms are shutting down, it's their fault for hiring under the table
Don't blame good hard working people who are doing necessary work and contributing to the US GDP for the fact that the legal immigration system is badly broken and doesnt come anywhere close to meeting the labor needs of the US economy.Don't blame ICE or Trump for what the farmers could have done but didn't do.
A lot of folks who voted for Trump last fall didn't know that tariffs and mass deportations would lead to higher prices.
I know what I've said. If you have a point...make it.
But be warned...I'll reject your inevitable deflection.
Well, if the workers are legal as you claim , why are they not showing up for worK?I'm guessing you don't know that most of those folks have Green Cards, and the Green Card Holders are being picked up and scheduled for deportation anyway. So the workers were legal, but hey, who cares. We need the numbers to show Trump is winning!
There havent been any higher prices. Inflation has fallen.They were clearly told that. For both. They chose not to listen.
Their desire to be led by the nose, unquestioningly, by an autocrat started in 2017...and they continue to fulfill that obligation.
I'm in favor of a national smart ID card, but forcing all citizens to carry their ID at all times would NOT be popular.
There havent been any higher prices. Inflation has fallen.