Mueller testimony delayed by one week

[haymarket]

Unless you believe Mueller knowingly falsely indicted Mr. Stone, he is referring to other things with that passage.

What Mueller is referring to is GAPS caused by lies, by deceit, by withholding of testimony to the panel and how his Report could be impacted and changed if those are ever corrected.

"Accordingly, while this report embodies factual and legal determinations that the Office believes to be accurate and complete to the greatest extent possible, given these identified gaps, the Office cannot rule out the possibility that the unavailable information would shed additional light on (or cast in a new light) the events described in the report."

You can do all the tortured mental gymnastics and false assumptions you want to engage in and those words still are in the Report.

 

[hanger4]

Which had everything to do with the Trump campaign as that is what Mueller was investigating in the first place.

So Mueller claims lies and withholding evidence stymied his investigation, yet indicted no one for lying to investigators and withholding evidence that stymied his investigation.

Yeah, you run with that haymarket.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Do you have a non-crazy non-CT source for this claim? Because I have emails released by Donald Trump Jr. himself demonstrating that he knew what the offer was and that he loved it.



If it was legitimate as you seem to be implying, then why did Trump lie to the American people about it for over a year?


How do you know it was a joke?

Wonder why Muller did not hire you to his team? Bet you would have got Trump! eace

 

[Common Sense 1]

The Trumpkin Reward Board called for you. Twenty four more like that and you get nominated for a merit badge.

^^^ Page after page of pure nonsense and then to top it off this one. ^^^ :doh

 

[j-mac]

Barr has been shown to be dishonest and deceitful and not worthy of the office he holds. Any subordinate of his under his direction will only support him.

Lol, why is that? Because he didn't "get Trump" the way you want him to? And as for Rosenstein, I remember not too long ago in here, you libs defending him tooth and nail, when you thought he was going to "get Trump"....

No hay, there's some dishonesty here, but it sure ain't Barr, or Rosenstein....

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[j-mac]

Potentially there is a great deal to yet be found. Mueller himself says that in his report after he discussed the lying and refusal of some witnesses to be honest and cooperative



It is very clear that there is potentially much to find out.

From the clowns that are as addled by TDS as you are? Lol Those buffoons couldn't find their own asses with both hands...lol

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[j-mac]

If I wanted to say that - I would say that. I say what they have said in the report. They were lied to. Witnesses held back information. They were deceived. There is potentially much to find out that could shed light on these events.

Such as?

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[j-mac]

There were lots of indictments of Trump campaign figures from criminal behavior. And many have already seen GULTY next to their name.

You really need to get out of that true believer zone.

How many of those were indicted, charged, or adjudicated guilty for conspiracy against the United States with Russia?

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[j-mac]

They were indictments and convictions of Trump campaign people that came out of the Mueller investigation.

But not for anything relevant to Russia Trump conspiracy.

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[Athanasius68]

What Mueller is referring to is GAPS caused by lies, by deceit, by withholding of testimony to the panel and how his Report could be impacted and changed if those are ever corrected.



You can do all the tortured mental gymnastics and false assumptions you want to engage in and those words still are in the Report.

The indictment is the indictment. Nothing of substance would change. No conspiracy.
Maybe with respect to obstruction.

 

[haymarket]

So Mueller claims lies and withholding evidence stymied his investigation, yet indicted no one for lying to investigators and withholding evidence that stymied his investigation.

Yeah, you run with that haymarket.

The facts are against your partisanship

Trump campaign associates 'materially impaired' investigation by lying, Mueller says | TheHill

[T]he investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters," Mueller's report said. "Those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian election interference."

"The Office charged some of those lies as violations of the federal false statements statute," the report states, before citing instances of ex-Trump officials pleading guilty to making false statements to investigators.

Former national security adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with a Russian ambassador to the U.S. during the transition period. Trump's former lawyer, Michael Cohen, pleaded guilty to making false statements to Congress about efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

Former campaign adviser George Papadopoulos and former campaign chairman Paul Manafort also pleaded guilty to making false statements to investigators.

 

[haymarket]

^^^ Page after page of pure nonsense and then to top it off this one. ^^^ :doh

Spoken like a true Trumpkin.

 

[haymarket]

Lol, why is that? Because he didn't "get Trump" the way you want him to?

Not at all. It was because he lied and deceived the nation about what was in the Mueller Report.

Barr Keeps Lying About Mueller, And People Keep Trusting Him

and more damning evidence

Barr is lying about Mueller’s evidence.

and more

William Barr Told All the Right Lies About the Mueller Report | GQ

and more

Mimi Rocah: William Barr misled Congress about Mueller'''s report. He must resign as attorney general.

 

[haymarket]

From the clowns that are as addled by TDS as you are? Lol Those buffoons couldn't find their own asses with both hands...lol

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Actually it is the Mueller Report itself that makes the conclusion they were lied to, they were deceived, and valuable information was intentionally withheld.

 

[haymarket]

How many of those were indicted, charged, or adjudicated guilty for conspiracy against the United States with Russia?

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That was the crime that brought them under the focus of Mr. Mueller.

 

[haymarket]

The indictment is the indictment. Nothing of substance would change. No conspiracy.
Maybe with respect to obstruction.

Mueller says otherwise. And that conclusion has been provided for you.

 

[hanger4]

The facts are against your partisanship

Trump campaign associates 'materially impaired' investigation by lying, Mueller says | TheHill

What part of;

*indicted no one for lying to investigators and withholding evidence that stymied his investigation concerning a Trump Campaign Russian conspiracy*

didn't you understand haymarket ??

 

[haymarket]

What part of;

*indicted no one for lying to investigators and withholding evidence that stymied his investigation concerning a Trump Campaign Russian conspiracy*

didn't you understand haymarket ??

I understand ALL of the Mueller Report - included the parts you seem to hate and ignore which show Russian interfered int he election to help Trump and The Trump Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from contacts with the Russians.

I understand perfectly that Trump himself invited the Russians to help him.

I understand that Trump used the Russian help over and over and over and over and over and over while his expressing his love for the Russian finished product knows as Wikileaks.

I understand perfectly that the Report could not do its job properly because members of the Trump circle lied to Mueller and withheld information from him.

I understand perfectly that Trump obstructed justice in at least ten different incidents that Mueller discusses with each details on the law and how it was violated.

 

[Athanasius68]

The facts are against your partisanship

Trump campaign associates 'materially impaired' investigation by lying, Mueller says | TheHill

And none of these lies had any substantive impact.

 

[hanger4]

I understand ALL of the Mueller Report - included the parts you seem to hate and ignore which show Russian interfered int he election to help Trump and The Trump Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from contacts with the Russians.

I understand perfectly that Trump himself invited the Russians to help him.

I understand that Trump used the Russian help over and over and over and over and over and over while his expressing his love for the Russian finished product knows as Wikileaks.

I understand perfectly that the Report could not do its job properly because members of the Trump circle lied to Mueller and withheld information from him.

I understand perfectly that Trump obstructed justice in at least ten different incidents that Mueller discusses with each details on the law and how it was violated.

This is the only part that pretains to our conversation;

"I understand perfectly that the Report could not do its job properly because members of the Trump circle lied to Mueller and withheld information from him."

Why were there no indictments of "members of the Trump circle" indicted for lying to Mueller investigators and withholding evidence concerning a Trump Campaign Russian conspiracy ??

 

[haymarket]

And none of these lies had any substantive impact.

When one is not told the truth or the truth is withheld - nobody knows the possibility of the impact or change if the truth were told - especially in such a vast investigation with so many people and so many different incidents to investigate.

From the Report

"Those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian election interference."

For those who do not speak governmentese or have trouble with larger words - that means it impaired it a lot.

 

[haymarket]

This is the only part that pretains to our conversation;

"I understand perfectly that the Report could not do its job properly because members of the Trump circle lied to Mueller and withheld information from him."

Why were there no indictments of "members of the Trump circle" indicted for lying to Mueller investigators and withholding evidence concerning a Trump Campaign Russian conspiracy ??

Every member of the Trump circle who was indicted was indicted as a result of the Mueller investigation and that includes lying. You simply are NOT dealing with reality when you try to excuse the lying.

 

[D_NATURED]

False. If dems think they have a legitimate case for High Crimes against Trump they are derelict in their duties if they do nothing. The House needs to ae its case against Trump and let the public pressure the Senate. You are simply defending the cowardice of the left because you are n their team/

The cowards are the conservatives who read the Mueller report and, creatively, interpret it as a declaration of innocence. The Democrats are an island of liberal insecurity in a torrent of conservative corruption. If they're afraid it's the fear of evil winning...again.

 

[hanger4]

Every member of the Trump circle who was indicted was indicted as a result of the Mueller investigation and that includes lying. You simply are NOT dealing with reality when you try to excuse the lying.

The lack of reality dealing is all on you haymarket. Not a single indictment for lying to investigators, by Flynn, Manafort, Papadopoulos etal, had anything to do with a Trump Campaign Russian conspiracy. They were all false statement process crimes. If Mueller had evidence of others lying and or withholding evidence he would have done all he could to flip them, he indicated NO ONE.

 

[haymarket]

The lack of reality dealing is all on you haymarket. Not a single indictment for lying to investigators, by Flynn, Manafort, Papadopoulos etal, had anything to do with a Trump Campaign Russian conspiracy. They were all false statement process crimes. If Mueller had evidence of others lying and or withholding evidence he would have done all he could to flip them, he indicated NO ONE.

All the indictments - all the convictions came from Trump people arising out of the Mueller investigation. Nothing you can try to say changes that reality.