MPs vote to decriminalise abortion for women in England and Wales

[Allan]

What if there isn’t a doctor involved

Well this just gets more and more stupid.

 

[Grand Mal]

What if there isn’t a doctor involved

So it's women you don't trust.
What if there's a woman doctor involved?
You're pretending that you have so much morality in your judgement that you need to have a say in every abortion decision. You need to draw lines and define terms.
Abortion is between a woman and her doctor. It's none of your business. Keep your nose out of it and mind your own business

 

[Allan]

Abortion is between a woman and her doctor. It's none of your business. Keep your nose out of it and mind your own business

It's like he's visiting us from 1950.

 

[reinaert]

It's like he's visiting us from 1950.

Or Missouri.

 

[Real blank]

It does not. Doctors won't do it. What part of this don't you understand?

Canada has had legalized abortion for 40 years. Your hysterical doomsday scenario hasn't happened.

Well it does you haven’t understood the ruling

 

[reinaert]

Well it does you haven’t understood the ruling

So, you think this isn't just license to terminate two days before delivery, it induces and incentivizes?

 

[Real blank]

So it's women you don't trust.
What if there's a woman doctor involved?
You're pretending that you have so much morality in your judgement that you need to have a say in every abortion decision. You need to draw lines and define terms.
Abortion is between a woman and her doctor. It's none of your business. Keep your nose out of it and mind your own business

So no answer to my initial question?

 

[Real blank]

So, you think this isn't just license to terminate two days before delivery, it induces and incentivizes?

Look just be honest on were you stand on this

 

[Allan]

Well it does you haven’t understood the ruling

You haven't understood anything. This is not new for much of the developed world.

Your dumb positions and insane scenarios were shrieked by every street corner, tin foil hat wearing nutter every time laws were relaxed.

And guess what - doctors and their patients were able to make sound decisions.

If you want to help go save a whale and leave women alone.

 

[reinaert]

Look just be honest on were you stand on this

I was. Bodily autonomy.

So do you think that the absence of punitive restrictions induces and incentivizes behavior?

 

[Grand Mal]

So no answer to my initial question?

What if there's no doctor involved? Really?
Why do you imagine an abortion with no doctor involved? It's a ridiculous scenario.

 

[Real blank]

You haven't understood anything. This is not new for much of the developed world.

Your dumb positions and insane scenarios were shrieked by every street corner, tin foil hat wearing nutter every time laws were relaxed.

And guess what - doctors and their patients were able to make sound decisions.

If you want to help go save a whale and leave women alone.

Can you, just for a second, try to understand the point? The fact that you're bringing up doctors shows you're missing it. You are a smart guy give me at least the tiny bit of respect that this is different from your hair trigger response.

 

[Allan]

The fact that you're bringing up doctors shows you're missing it.

The law applies to doctors and their patients.

 

[Real blank]

What if there's no doctor involved? Really?
Why do you imagine an abortion with no doctor involved? It's a ridiculous scenario.

You have just gone on attack mode without understanding it’s the whole point

 

[Real blank]

The law applies to doctors and their patients.

It decriminalises women performing their own abortions up to the point of birth

 

[Allan]

You have just gone on attack mode without understanding it’s the whole point

This is a really dumb OP. Those things tend to attract derision.

Your attitude toward women is so outdated you may as well be complaining about their right to vote.

 

[Allan]

It decriminalises women performing their own abortions up to the point of birth

 

[Real blank]

Which you find hilarious

 

[Grand Mal]

You have just gone on attack mode without understanding it’s the whole point

Your imagined excesses is the whole point?
Listen. Canada has no laws around abortion. And there's none of your imagined 'day before birth' horror stories. Look into it.
For some reason you seem to have decided that other people are morally inadequate and they need guidance and restrictions from your superior position.
Why on earth you think a woman would carry a pregnancy to term and then 'abort' it is a mystery that can only be solved by you.

 

[Phys251]

You have just gone on attack mode without understanding it’s the whole point

If you think @Grand Mal was attacking you, I have a massive bridge to sell you. Stop being so defensive, and recognize that your argument got demolished.

 

[Real blank]

This is a really dumb OP. Those things tend to attract derision.

Your attitude toward women is so outdated you may as well be complaining about their right to vote.

You just haven’t understood

 

[reinaert]

You just haven’t understood

Then restate what you think is the problem.

 

[Allan]

Then restate what you think is the problem.

Here...

It decriminalises women performing their own abortions up to the point of birth

 

[Real blank]

If you think @Grand Mal was attacking you, I have a massive bridge to sell you. Stop being so defensive, and recognize that your argument got demolished.

It’s not really an argument. I’m asking where you stand on this? Nobody seems to be bothered to actually read what this amendment means

 

[Grand Mal]

Then restate what you think is the problem.

What I can gather, he thinks a woman might carry a pregnancy to term and then 'abort' it a day before it's due.
And I flat-out guarantee you that @Real blank is male.