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MPs vote to decriminalise abortion for women in England and Wales

These women that took pills that late were crazy because they're not meant to be used that late...the fetus is way too big. Abortions that late use a lethal dose of anesthetic and then they dismember the fetus. The body isnt physically ready, like for labor, the cervix doesnt dilate, for one example. At least one of these women ended up in the ER. It would have been incredibly painful and dangerous.
This is why men and politics shouldn't be in on the decision.
 
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How can you say that a woman who self aborts at 8 months doesn't suffer from a mental health problem?

It was a hypothetical scenario.
 
How can you say that a woman who self aborts at 8 months doesn't suffer from a mental health problem?

I'd like to see women feel safe enough to go to their doctor and then get advised. Doctors dont want to do such abortions, the women will receive counseling and it's very unlikely she'd end up aborting. That's what's best for her health, physically and mentally and has the best chance of saving the fetus. Because as we've seen, if she's that desperate, she could end up killing them both on her own. Just like back in "the good 'ol days of back alley abortions." :(

Canada, where you are, has no abortion laws, including around time frame...and healthy women dont abort health, viable fetuses. Nor does it happen in the handful of US states where there are no such restrictions on timeframe.
 
It was a hypothetical scenario.

We see a lot of false and emotionally-manipulative rhetoric about women aborting "a day before birth!" "Right before birth!" Yet no one's producing examples of that ever happening and all it is is a gross disrespect and disparagement to women to suggest we commonly do this, it's used to further an agenda and is a lie and disgusting. If people object to abortion, as they are entitled, then their arguments should be honest and fact/reality-based.
 
Canada, where you are, has no abortion laws, including around time frame...and healthy women dont abort health, viable fetuses.
Once politicians, clergy and extremists were eliminated from the conversation we've had 40 years of women and physicians making informed and reasonable decisions.

Who didn't know that women would be able to arrive at a reasonable solution? Well the OP for one but he's visiting us from 1950.
 
This is why men and politics shouldn't be in on the decision.
Then you shouldn't even be taking about it.
If men dont have to say in the decision then why are you having an opinion on it?
If this is a woman issue than im sure they dont need your male opinion

What youre saying makes absolutely no sense by virtue of you talking in this thread.
 
Then you shouldn't even be taking about it.
If men dont have to say in the decision then why are you having an opinion on it?
If this is a woman issue than im sure they dont need your male opinion

What youre saying makes absolutely no sense by virtue of you talking in this thread.
Gibberish.
 
That's all your post is worth.
My post is worth responding to twice but you cant actually respond to it, you can only ignore it. Anyone watching this thread will see that. Whats next, emojis? lol.

Fact 1: you (male), say males shouldn't be in on the decision.
Fact 2: you (male), are trying to be in on the decision.

Therefore, what you really meant is...
Males should be in on the decision unless their opinions agree with your progressive ideals.
 

Women who terminate their pregnancy outside the rules, for example after 24 weeks, will no longer be at risk of being investigated by police.


Basically women can terminate their child the day before it’s born.

Good for the UK.

Democrats at the State and Federal levels in our country need to run on doing the same thing.
 
Good for the UK.

Democrats at the State and Federal levels in our country need to run on doing the same thing.

Nah, it's the fundie Christians who insist it's baby murder. Cant "decriminalize" that.

It's amazing tho, how many celebrated Dobbs and were happy to accept that it's a states' rights issue...as if they really believe that "murdering babies" is ok on a state by state basis. :rolleyes:
 
Nah, it's the fundie Christians who insist it's baby murder. Cant "decriminalize" that.

It's amazing tho, how many celebrated Dobbs and were happy to accept that it's a states' rights issue...as if they really believe that "murdering babies" is ok on a state by state basis. :rolleyes:
Yeah, abortion is murder and abortion is a states rights issue.
They would never try to get a national ban, nonono, never.
 
So you’re position is if a woman is 8 months pregnant she should be able to terminate that child if she so wishes. As long as she manages to do it herself?

Firstly, how often do you think this happens as I'm willing to bet the numbers are miniscule.

Secondly, who exactly benefits from sending a woman in such a distressing situation to prison?
 
Firstly, how often do you think this happens as I'm willing to bet the numbers are miniscule.
Irrelevant I made no claim of it ever happening it’s a scenario I’ve presented.

Secondly, who exactly benefits from sending a woman in such a distressing situation to prison?
Not an answer to the question. You have just Danced around it.
 
Irrelevant I made no claim of it ever happening it’s a scenario I’ve presented.


Not an answer to the question. You have just Danced around it.

So you admit it almost never happens and won't even discuss who benefits from jailing a woman in that situation.

Nobody carries a baby for 8 months and then has an abortion on a whim, nobody.
Yes, its a sad event but it is certainly not a crime.
 
So you admit it almost never happens and won't even discuss who benefits from jailing a woman in that situation.

Nobody carries a baby for 8 months and then has an abortion on a whim, nobody.
Yes, its a sad event but it is certainly not a crime.

Yes. But it's an effective emotionally manipulative pro-choice angle that works on the poorly informed all the time. The more someone is against women needing an abortion, the more tightly they cling to that BS. The true believers refuse to believe it's not a regular thing.
 
Then you shouldn't even be taking about it.
If men dont have to say in the decision then why are you having an opinion on it?
If this is a woman issue than im sure they dont need your male opinion

What youre saying makes absolutely no sense by virtue of you talking in this thread.
Maybe he feels women are human beings.

Wild, right?
 
Then you shouldn't even be taking about it.
If men dont have to say in the decision then why are you having an opinion on it?
If this is a woman issue than im sure they dont need your male opinion

What youre saying makes absolutely no sense by virtue of you talking in this thread.

Speak for yourself.

Probably tastes like chicken

Fetus fritters.
 
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