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Moveon.org tells Obama not so fast on Syria

ecofarm said:
MoveOn, their "journalists" let alone their sycophants, does not have the evidence afforded congress.
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That maybe so, but it is Obama's fault for not getting ahead of this issue, and not showing clear evidence regarding who used the gas. Even the congress is divided over this.....quite telling.
 
American said:
Even the congress is divided over this.....quite telling.
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Once evidence has been disseminated to the Intel Committee, I don't think that will be the case.
 
After he says Syria will not cross his line he changes that line to belong to Congress and all American citizens. His mouth has finally put him where he belongs. This catastrophic blunder is yet another democrat hanging himself with his own lack of discretion. He will never escape this Syria mess because the far left will call for his ass and the right knows they have him right where they want him. Sing some Al Green tunes for us prezzzz.
 
MMC said:
Course there is no getting around the loss of 56k dead.....ran and controlled thru the Left and their armchair QB's. You didn't think all the other conflicts since NAM can surpass what the Left screwed up with in NAM.

You do understand the Democratic History can never be forgotten.....no matter how much they look to change up History. Which means conflicts ran by the left. Always turnout the worse for us.
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So by your reasoning, the Left is no longer allowed to play with the big military toys because of Nam and what happened a half century ago. Got it. Only the right is allowed to start their wars of choice. This is what you said.
 
NIMBY said:
So by your reasoning, the Left is no longer allowed to play with the big military toys because of Nam and what happened a half century ago. Got it. Only the right is allowed to start their wars of choice. This is what you said.
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I am good with it all except for the fact.....I didn't say anything about the Right and when they run wars.
 
apdst said:
Since 2003 we've been kickn' ass.
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Yeah, that's why we've been in the Middle East for over 10 years, killed off thousands of Americans, 100's of thousands of combatants and civilians, trillions of dollars, destabilized a region and made it a hot bed for terrorist activity, sent a people back to the stone ages, and are no closer to a solution than we were before we started this mess in the first place. That's...kickin' ass alright :roll:
 
Ikari said:
Yeah, that's why we've been in the Middle East for over 10 years, killed off thousands of Americans, 100's of thousands of combatants and civilians, trillions of dollars, destabilized a region and made it a hot bed for terrorist activity, sent a people back to the stone ages, and are no closer to a solution than we were before we started this mess in the first place. That's...kickin' ass alright :roll:
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That statement has no grasp of either geopolitics or recent history in the mideast.
 
ecofarm said:
That statement has no grasp of either geopolitics or recent history in the mideast.
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Except that it's fact. So if fact has no grasp of geopolitics and recent history in the ME, then perhaps you'd be right. But it's not, so your not.
 
APACHERAT said:
Many conservatives are saying that Ted Cruz is a neoconservative plant.
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What the hell does that even mean?

Why are many conservatives so ridiculous in the conspiracy theories?
 
MMC said:
I am good with it all except for the fact.....I didn't say anything about the Right and when they run wars.
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If not us who? My Air Force Dad is rolling over in his grave with a lot of company. Apparently, the right is no longer worried about commie creep as with after WW II. Give them Russians and Chinese an inch. You are forcing Israel to go alone. If so, watch for India to back up the Israelis.
 
Fiddytree said:
What the hell does that even mean?

Why are many conservatives so ridiculous in the conspiracy theories?
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I don't know, unlike the Democrat Party where everyone is in lockstep and no decenting opinions are allowed, the GOP is a very diversed political party made up with true conservatives, moderate conservatives, JFK liberals aka neoconservatives, middle of the road moderates, original libertarians of the early 70's. and even some old Northeast Rockefeller Republicans. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few reactionaries hiding in the corner somewhere. With the TEA Party movement it's gotten even more diverse. It's so diverse that nobody is in control of the GOP today.
 
NIMBY said:
If not us who? My Air Force Dad is rolling over in his grave with a lot of company. Apparently, the right is no longer worried about commie creep as with after WW II. Give them Russians and Chinese an inch. You are forcing Israel to go alone. If so, watch for India to back up the Israelis.
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Not me.....I already gave that option for Obama and for covering Israel in some other threads.

Moreover it doesn't matter which wing of the same bird.....when it comes to the ME. One of the major problems has always been Rules of Engagement. Our politicians have been played. Thinking they got something in return. When they came home with nothing.
 
ecofarm said:
Once evidence has been disseminated to the Intel Committee, I don't think that will be the case.
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The US govt. doesn't have an Intel Committee.
 
solletica said:
What does that have to do with intelligence?
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Once intel has been disseminated through that committee and other members of congress, I expect the vote to be one-sided.
 
ecofarm said:
Once intel has been disseminated through that committee
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When has intelligence ever disseminated thru that committee (or any other House or Senate committee)? Cite.
 
solletica said:
We all laughed when you posted that the US govt. has evidence
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Who's "we"?

Business Insider is a fundie muzzie blog of writers with names like 'Godzilla' and 'SmokeyJoe'.
 
ecofarm said:
Who's "we"?

Business Insider is a fundie muzzie blog of writers with names like 'Godzilla' and 'SmokeyJoe'.
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Did Godzilla and SmokeyJoe tell the US govt. has evidence?
 
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