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Morris: Obama doesn’t have a clue

Katrina was a hell hole, but the folks there should have left either on their own or with the assisatance of the state.
It was a State and local matter to clear out the areas. Read The Stafford Act.

After the hurricane ripped through and the levees busted, and people did not evacuate, getting into that area was next to impossible.
No it wasn't good post hurricane, but the deaths and suffering are on the State and mayor's hands, not Bush.
Those people should never have been left to the mercy of the hurricane.

The NOAA warned the levees might break... yet we only hear Bush being blamed.
It wasn't his ball of wax... what I do not understand is why the Governor and Mayor of NO did not heed the warning?

This BP spill is in federal waters and is a federal issue first and foremost.
This is Obama's. Obama's lethargy makes Bush look like Speedy Gonzalez on a bag of speed.

Katrina was Nagin's and Blanco's responsibility prior to landfall. They left residents to the mercy of Mother Nature at her worst.

BP's Horizon is Obama's.
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Not everyone was capable of leaving, but that aside, and what people should have done deosn't really excuse BUsh, Brownie and company. And while there is more than one person and agency to blame, yes, some of that blame is Bush's, who hired the horse judge, and did not, despite amble warning, make sure things were handled comeptently. He can't be apologised for.
 
Who Clinton? OK, Yep...dude ****ed up...
Who Bush? OK, Yep...dude ****ed up...
Who Obama? OK, Yep...dude ****ed up...

Now let's see you put those ****ups on a scale of 1-10...

Apparently you have MISSED the part where I have said (on numerous occasions) that Bush and the republicans fiscal wrecklessness is THE reason I left the republican party. Or the numeropus times Ive credited Clinton with positive accomplishments and even defended him. Obama...no...because while the jury is out he is an epic FAILURE as a leader...

but If I was ranking them on a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd scale I would probably vote CLinton Bush, then Obama in a VERY distant third.

You see...I dont wear presidential kneepads like the mindless morons that swallow any and everything Obama does. Keep trying tho...
 
Not everyone was capable of leaving, but that aside, and what people should have done deosn't really excuse BUsh, Brownie and company. And while there is more than one person and agency to blame, yes, some of that blame is Bush's, who hired the horse judge, and did not, despite amble warning, make sure things were handled comeptently. He can't be apologised for.

Just what do you think they could have done differently? And why is it acceptable for Clintons FEMA to be delayed 30+ days following FLoyd but not THREE days in NOLA (ignoring the fact that that horse judge had FEMA in Mississippi and other places right after the storm passed.

And since we ARE after all talking OBAMAS epic FAILURE as a leader, then if you thought 3 days response in NOLA was disgraceful you HAVE to label Obamas lack of leadership as FAR worse...that is...assuming you had any credinility...which...believe me...no one is holding their breath.
 
Not everyone was capable of leaving, but that aside, and what people should have done deosn't really excuse BUsh, Brownie and company. And while there is more than one person and agency to blame, yes, some of that blame is Bush's, who hired the horse judge, and did not, despite amble warning, make sure things were handled comeptently. He can't be apologised for.

Everyone was capable of leaving. Everyone.

Again... it is not the Feds job to ensure everyone is evacuated. That is the job of the State and local governments.
They devise the emergency plans. They implement the emergency plans.
Read The Stafford Act, it's all there in B&W.

It's not like the hurricane showed up like a surprise around the corner.
They had school busses galore sitting there.
They had no plan obviously, or had a plan but incompetents as local officials. Strange considering their location.


Moral poverty cost blacks in New Orleans


Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:

1. What would you do?

2. What would you do if you were black?

Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.

To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would return to help others in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the like.

For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, then you'll probably wait for the government to save you.

This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men. They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in.
Moral poverty cost blacks<BR>in New Orleans

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Again... it is not the Feds job to ensure everyone is evacuated. That is the job of the State and local governments.
They devise the emergency plans. They implement the emergency plans.
Read The Stafford Act, it's all there in B&W.

It's not like the hurricane showed up like a surprise around the corner.
They had school busses galore sitting there.
They had no plan obviously, or had a plan but incompetents as local officials. Strange too considering their location.



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Again, and I'll type slowly for you, more than one person or one agency holds blame. You can have multiple blame. But none of that excuses Bush from hiring Brownie and his incompetence during this. None of that excuses the federal government for not responding more competently.

Despite four years and tens of billions of dollars spent preparing for the worst, the federal government was not ready when it came at daybreak on Monday, according to interviews with more than a dozen current and former senior officials and outside experts.

Among the flaws they cited: Failure to take the storm seriously before it hit and trigger the government's highest level of response. Rebuffed offers of aid from the military, states and cities. An unfinished new plan meant to guide disaster response. And a slow bureaucracy that waited until late Tuesday to declare the catastrophe "an incident of national significance," the new federal term meant to set off the broadest possible relief effort.

Born out of the confused and uncertain response to 9/11, the massive new Department of Homeland Security was charged with being ready the next time, whether the disaster was wrought by nature or terrorists. The department commanded huge resources as it prepared for deadly scenarios from an airborne anthrax attack to a biological attack with plague to a chlorine-tank explosion.

But Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said yesterday that his department had failed to find an adequate model for addressing the "ultra-catastrophe" that resulted when Hurricane Katrina's floodwater breached New Orleans's levees and drowned the city, "as if an atomic bomb had been dropped."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301653.html

Not to mention:

The e-mails Melancon posted, a sampling of more than 1,000 provided to the House committee now assessing responses to Katrina by all levels of government, also show Brown making flippant remarks about his responsibilities. (Read how office e-mails can come back to haunt)

"Can I quit now? Can I come home?" Brown wrote to Cindy Taylor, FEMA's deputy director of public affairs, the morning of the hurricane.

A few days later, Brown wrote to an acquaintance, "I'm trapped now, please rescue me."

"In the midst of the overwhelming damage caused by the hurricane and enormous problems faced by FEMA, Mr. Brown found time to exchange e-mails about superfluous topics," including "problems finding a dog-sitter," Melancon said.

Melancon said that on August 26, just days before Katrina made landfall, Brown e-mailed his press secretary, Sharon Worthy, about his attire, asking: "Tie or not for tonight? Button-down blue shirt?"

A few days later, Worthy advised Brown: "Please roll up the sleeves of your shirt, all shirts. Even the president rolled his sleeves to just below the elbow. In this [crisis] and on TV you just need to look more hard-working."

On August 29, the day of the storm, Brown exchanged e-mails about his attire with Taylor, Melancon said. She told him, "You look fabulous," and Brown replied, "I got it at Nordstroms. ... Are you proud of me?"

An hour later, Brown added: "If you'll look at my lovely FEMA attire, you'll really vomit. I am a fashion god," according to the congressman.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/03/brown.fema.emails/
 
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Apparently you have MISSED the part where I have said (on numerous occasions) that Bush and the republicans fiscal wrecklessness is THE reason I left the republican party. Or the numeropus times Ive credited Clinton with positive accomplishments and even defended him. Obama...no...because while the jury is out he is an epic FAILURE as a leader...

but If I was ranking them on a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd scale I would probably vote CLinton Bush, then Obama in a VERY distant third.

You see...I dont wear presidential kneepads like the mindless morons that swallow any and everything Obama does. Keep trying tho...

Apparently YOU missed the part where I have said (on numerous occasions) that I didn't vote for Obama. But you seem really defensive about a simple request. I certainly didn't become irrate at your request to admit that they (politicians) **** up. Maybe you really do kinda feel guilty about supporting repubs all these years... :shrug:
 
Again, and I'll type slowly for you, more than one person or one agency holds blame. You can have multiple blame. But none of that excuses Bush from hiring Brownie and his incompetence during this. None of that excuses the federal government for not responding more competently.

Despite four years and tens of billions of dollars spent preparing for the worst, the federal government was not ready when it came at daybreak on Monday, according to interviews with more than a dozen current and former senior officials and outside experts.

Among the flaws they cited: Failure to take the storm seriously before it hit and trigger the government's highest level of response. Rebuffed offers of aid from the military, states and cities. An unfinished new plan meant to guide disaster response. And a slow bureaucracy that waited until late Tuesday to declare the catastrophe "an incident of national significance," the new federal term meant to set off the broadest possible relief effort.

Born out of the confused and uncertain response to 9/11, the massive new Department of Homeland Security was charged with being ready the next time, whether the disaster was wrought by nature or terrorists. The department commanded huge resources as it prepared for deadly scenarios from an airborne anthrax attack to a biological attack with plague to a chlorine-tank explosion.

But Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said yesterday that his department had failed to find an adequate model for addressing the "ultra-catastrophe" that resulted when Hurricane Katrina's floodwater breached New Orleans's levees and drowned the city, "as if an atomic bomb had been dropped."

Storm Exposed Disarray at the Top - washingtonpost.com

Not to mention:

The e-mails Melancon posted, a sampling of more than 1,000 provided to the House committee now assessing responses to Katrina by all levels of government, also show Brown making flippant remarks about his responsibilities. (Read how office e-mails can come back to haunt)

"Can I quit now? Can I come home?" Brown wrote to Cindy Taylor, FEMA's deputy director of public affairs, the morning of the hurricane.

A few days later, Brown wrote to an acquaintance, "I'm trapped now, please rescue me."

"In the midst of the overwhelming damage caused by the hurricane and enormous problems faced by FEMA, Mr. Brown found time to exchange e-mails about superfluous topics," including "problems finding a dog-sitter," Melancon said.

Melancon said that on August 26, just days before Katrina made landfall, Brown e-mailed his press secretary, Sharon Worthy, about his attire, asking: "Tie or not for tonight? Button-down blue shirt?"

A few days later, Worthy advised Brown: "Please roll up the sleeves of your shirt, all shirts. Even the president rolled his sleeves to just below the elbow. In this [crisis] and on TV you just need to look more hard-working."

On August 29, the day of the storm, Brown exchanged e-mails about his attire with Taylor, Melancon said. She told him, "You look fabulous," and Brown replied, "I got it at Nordstroms. ... Are you proud of me?"

An hour later, Brown added: "If you'll look at my lovely FEMA attire, you'll really vomit. I am a fashion god," according to the congressman.

CNN.com - 'Can I quit now?' FEMA chief wrote as Katrina raged - Nov 3, 2005
You're wasting your time, they won't acknowledge the blame or the amount of blame deserved by their beloved party; even when they deny being republican. It's been gone over with a fine tooth comb in thread after thread for years.
 
Apparently YOU missed the part where I have said (on numerous occasions) that I didn't vote for Obama. But you seem really defensive about a simple request. I certainly didn't become irrate at your request to admit that they (politicians) **** up. Maybe you really do kinda feel guilty about supporting repubs all these years... :shrug:

Well since YOU apparently felt the need to jump in and take on someone ELSES argument...Im wondering just weho it is that feels guilty...
 
You're wasting your time, they won't acknowledge the blame or the amount of blame deserved by their beloved party; even when they deny being republican. It's been gone over with a fine tooth comb in thread after thread for years.

There you go again...

Point is...IF FEMA in NOLA was a catastrophe...you know...not being able to respond THERE (while efforts WERE going on in Mississippi)...if THREE DAYS is what you consider an 'epic' failure, than Clintons response AND Obamas response must be OFF THE CHARTS dismal.
 
Morris: Obama doesn’t have a clue
LINK> Morris: Obama doesn

This is what happens when the press does not vet the president.
It happened when the protected Clinton and propagandized for him, now we have an even bigger problem.

And our enemies around the world are starting to buzz like a hornets nest. They smell weakness and opportunity on a scale they could have only fantasized about a mere 3 years ago.

Now is the time they have been waiting for. And they are chanting Yes We Can...



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Epic Fail on Morris' part. First, anyone and EVERYONE knows that this economic downturn occurred during the campaign, so the "into which his policies thrust us" negates pretty much anything else he has to say.

He's an opportunistic douche.

You might have something if it was say Maureen Dowd. Even Carville's criticism is given merit. Morris actually refers to Obama's "socialism" but then writes a column scaring people by saying that Obama plans to cancel Medicare. WTF? Why would a Socialist cancel the single most socialist thing our government does.

There is incompetence on display. It's Morris's.
 
Well since YOU apparently felt the need to jump in and take on someone ELSES argument...Im wondering just weho it is that feels guilty...
It's a PUBLIC forum. Try PMs if you don't want others to engage.

There you go again...

Point is...IF FEMA in NOLA was a catastrophe...you know...not being able to respond THERE (while efforts WERE going on in Mississippi)...if THREE DAYS is what you consider an 'epic' failure, than Clintons response AND Obamas response must be OFF THE CHARTS dismal.
It's not a temporal issue as much as a competency issue.
 
It's a PUBLIC forum. Try PMs if you don't want others to engage.


It's not a temporal issue as much as a competency issue.

I dont CARE THAT you jumped in...its just very TELLING not only THAT you jumped in but where and how...
Oh and I get it BTW...apparentl;y people cant think of what Bush should have done differently in NOLA...you know...since the mayor of the city abandoned his constituents, their emergency disaster plan was itself a disaster...but SOMEHOW Bush should have been able to swoop in within 3 days and fix everything...

And the competence of CLintons FEMA (30 day response) and Obamas response???
 
I dont CARE THAT you jumped in...its just very TELLING not only THAT you jumped in but where and how...
Oh and I get it BTW...apparentl;y people cant think of what Bush should have done differently in NOLA...you know...since the mayor of the city abandoned his constituents, their emergency disaster plan was itself a disaster...but SOMEHOW Bush should have been able to swoop in within 3 days and fix everything...

And the competence of CLintons FEMA (30 day response) and Obamas response???
That's fine, you can continue to ignore the point and continue with this time based attack and Bush legacy talking points. I'm certainly not going to waste my time going around and around.
 
That's fine, you can continue to ignore the point and continue with this time based attack and Bush legacy talking points. I'm certainly not going to waste my time going around and around.

Aaaaand yet....

oh...btw...day 47 of stellar leadership on the oil leak, spill, and cleanup. Oil has reached Florida and all panhandle beaches...
 
Aaaaand yet....

oh...btw...day 47 of stellar leadership on the oil leak, spill, and cleanup. Oil has reached Florida and all panhandle beaches...

Yeah and it all Obama's fault. :roll:
 
I knew the minute NLJ got involved in this thread that it was pretty much going to sink into the mud...
 
Listening to a prostitute toe sucker is about the same as getting your information from a drug addicted gas bag radio host....in either case the credibility and reliability of the information received is highly suspect.
 
Amen Disney, who wants to listen to this blowhards opinions about a crackhead protege of a racist America hater. If only we could go back to the days of the adulturous philanderer, when you had representitives that keep thousands of dollars of bribe money in freezers or senators who negligently murdered women while drunk in the congress. Instead of the toe sucker we really need to have the obese fraud peddling propogandist make a movie about this, or perhaps the document forging news organization could do a story on it with an old host to comment about the man that can't sell watermelons.

Fun times all around.
 
You're wasting your time, they won't acknowledge the blame or the amount of blame deserved by their beloved party; even when they deny being republican. It's been gone over with a fine tooth comb in thread after thread for years.

I know. But revisionist efforts should be called. ;)
 
interesting claim. what historical facts do you think he got wrong or revised?
 
Keep in mind, zimmer is the poster who also gave us the sickening racist post depicting the President as a monkey throwing **** around a toilet....

http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-media/73738-beck-smeres-obama-11-year-old-daugter-3.html#post1058778888

This type of 'humor' is something you might find at Stormfront or any white pride fringe site. Sadly Zimmer felt he could bring it hear.

He has no credibility as a person or an American. And his liking Dick Morris, makes Morris less credible, IMO.

Now, do you have a point to make here?
 
Listening to a prostitute toe sucker is about the same as getting your information from a drug addicted gas bag radio host....in either case the credibility and reliability of the information received is highly suspect.

Or a coke snorting community activists with no experience running anything other than his mouth ??
 
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