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More jobs out there than workers

Employers are raising wages to lure people off government programs that they became addicted to during the Covid shutdown. This is a big part of the inflation problem in America.
Yes, it is. As everything in life, the decisions taken in the past bring benefits and consequences. You are seeing a consequence here.

That is why prevention techniques are so valuable. They help prevent the consequences.

Pay better wages from the beginning and fewer people would be on Welfare to begin with and there would be less the problematic inflation there is now as it would have grown at a slower pace throughout the years and we would all be more accustomed to it and not a problem.
 
What for? I want better conditions for workers all across America, not just in some of it.

What did you imagine the "real reason" was?
Sure you do, sure you do
 
This came out in another thread and I thought it deserves a thread of its own. Why all the help wanted signs? Where's all the workers. Here's where they are.



"The federal government funds 126 separate programs targeted towards low‐income people, 72 of which provide either cash or in‐kind benefits to individuals. (The rest fund community‐wide programs for low‐income neighborhoods, with no direct benefits to individuals.) State and local governments operate more welfare programs.Of course, no individual or family gets benefits from all 72 programs, but many do get aid from a number of them at any point in time."


So someone in New York would have to earn more than $21 per hour to be better off than they would be on welfare. That’s more than the average statewide entry‐level salary for a teacher.

"Plus, going to work means added costs such as paying for child care, transportation and clothing. Not to mention that, even if it’s not a money‐loser, a person moving from welfare to work will see some form of loss — namely, less time for leisure as opposed to work.

Is it any wonder, then, that, despite the work requirements included in the 1996 welfare reform, only 27.6 percent of adult welfare recipients in New York are working in unsubsidized jobs?"

If so, then why are cons so against immigration?
 
Or we can end the free ride for Americans that refuse to work.
I see, force them to work and suffer because they cannot make enough money to pay their bills. Isn't that kind of a situation what causes people to attempt to overturn governments?

Wow, your solutions all lead to more problems, rather than fixing them. It is the solution that someone like Kim Yong-un has supported. Perhaps you should go to North Korea and experience that kind of solution. Mass enslavement to the wishes of the government and not give the people a voice.

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Half the fun in here is proving someone is spouting BS. I do it to you leftist all the time and laugh as you slink out of the thread or better yet throw a pejorative filled snowflake temper tantrum.
You’ve never proved anyone wrong here. All you post is lies.
 
Well, there is always some mom's looking to fill hours while the kids are at school, or maybe retirees. My point is that fast food workers were positions not intended for adults with families to support. I think you know that!
Which might make sense in a world where nothing changes, but things have changed since this model was sustainable just by teenagers.
 
State and local governments are more than welcome to create higher minimums to account for higher cost of living.
And they do. It seems to work fine. Companies are paying more, as well. The problem is the raises haven't kept up with inflation.
 
I see, force them to work and suffer because they cannot make enough money to pay their bills. Isn't that kind of a situation what causes people to attempt to overturn governments?

Wow, your solutions all lead to more problems, rather than fixing them. It is the solution that someone like Kim Yong-un has supported. Perhaps you should go to North Korea and experience that kind of solution. Mass enslavement to the wishes of the government and not give the people a voice.

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I see, force them to work and suffer because they cannot make enough money to pay their bills. Isn't that kind of a situation what causes people to attempt to overturn governments?

Wow, your solutions all lead to more problems, rather than fixing them. It is the solution that someone like Kim Yong-un has supported. Perhaps you should go to North Korea and experience that kind of solution. Mass enslavement to the wishes of the government and not give the people a voice.

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You never get anywhere unless you work. Enabling people not to work is dooming them to eternal poverty.
 
And they do. It seems to work fine. Companies are paying more, as well. The problem is the raises haven't kept up with inflation.
Yeah, that's why minimum wage needs to come up. So that wages are forced to keep up with inflation.
 
Yeah, that's why minimum wage needs to come up. So that wages are forced to keep up with inflation.
I'm not sure that would work at this time. Once the supply chain returns to normal (new normal?), then I think we can address MW. The jobs being created are more than minimum, and they've been rising. This is good, but supply issues still persist, and I think once inflation peaks, most will be better off.
 
This came out in another thread and I thought it deserves a thread of its own. Why all the help wanted signs? Where's all the workers. Here's where they are.



"The federal government funds 126 separate programs targeted towards low‐income people, 72 of which provide either cash or in‐kind benefits to individuals. (The rest fund community‐wide programs for low‐income neighborhoods, with no direct benefits to individuals.) State and local governments operate more welfare programs.Of course, no individual or family gets benefits from all 72 programs, but many do get aid from a number of them at any point in time."


So someone in New York would have to earn more than $21 per hour to be better off than they would be on welfare. That’s more than the average statewide entry‐level salary for a teacher.

"Plus, going to work means added costs such as paying for child care, transportation and clothing. Not to mention that, even if it’s not a money‐loser, a person moving from welfare to work will see some form of loss — namely, less time for leisure as opposed to work.

Is it any wonder, then, that, despite the work requirements included in the 1996 welfare reform, only 27.6 percent of adult welfare recipients in New York are working in unsubsidized jobs?"

Koch funded propaganda to scapegoat the least able to challenge this wedge issue distraction Op invested in to manipulate you into
politically supporting the best interests of the Koch family. Widow Koch is the wealthiest woman in New York state and her brother-in-law is the 20th wealthiest man in the U.S. How is voting for the candidates for public office under the influence of bullshit like these CATO claims
that are invested in because the Koches and other of wealthiest G.O.P. voters expect a return for their donations dramatically greater than
the outlay, thanks to you and others of your ilk, possibly in the best interests of you?

2013 pushback against this long running CATO scapegoating disinfo OP,
"...Quite the contrary, however, these programs provide important supports for working families.

Here, specifically, are some of the ways that Cato gets it wrong:

Cato ignores the fact that low-income working families are eligible for, and receive, assistance through programs such as SNAP, Medicaid, housing assistance, and WIC. When considering the assistance that low-income working families receive, Cato assumes they receive none of these benefits and only get help from the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) and Child Tax Credit.

In fact, large numbers of low-income working families receive assistance through these programs — and fewer jobless families receive these benefits than Cato assumes:

  • In 2011, 86 percent of low-income children receiving health coverage through Medicaid or the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) were in working families (see chart). (Although, in many states today, low-income working parents often are ineligible for Medicaid or other forms of health coverage even if their earnings are less than the poverty line, that won’t be true any longer in states that adopt the Medicaid expansion under health reform.).."
 
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Koch funded propaganda to scapegoat the least able to challenge this wedge issue distraction Op invested in to manipulate you into
politically supporting the best interests of the Koch family. Widow Koch is the wealthiest woman in New York state and her brother-in-law is the 20th wealthiest man in the U.S. How is voting for the candidates for public office under the influence of bullshit like these CATO claims
that are invested in because the Koches and other of wealthiest G.O.P. voters expect a return for their donations dramatically greater than
the outlay, thanks to you and others of your ilk, possibly in the best interests of you?

2013 pushback against this long running CATO scapegoating disinfo OP,
"...Quite the contrary, however, these programs provide important supports for working families.

Here, specifically, are some of the ways that Cato gets it wrong:

Cato ignores the fact that low-income working families are eligible for, and receive, assistance through programs such as SNAP, Medicaid, housing assistance, and WIC. When considering the assistance that low-income working families receive, Cato assumes they receive none of these benefits and only get help from the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) and Child Tax Credit.

In fact, large numbers of low-income working families receive assistance through these programs — and fewer jobless families receive these benefits than Cato assumes:

  • In 2011, 86 percent of low-income children receiving health coverage through Medicaid or the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) were in working families (see chart). (Although, in many states today, low-income working parents often are ineligible for Medicaid or other forms of health coverage even if their earnings are less than the poverty line, that won’t be true any longer in states that adopt the Medicaid expansion under health reform.).."
Did you have a point?
 
I'm not sure that would work at this time. Once the supply chain returns to normal (new normal?), then I think we can address MW. The jobs being created are more than minimum, and they've been rising. This is good, but supply issues still persist, and I think once inflation peaks, most will be better off.

Raising minimum wage wouldn't cause wages to rise? What?
 
Raising minimum wage wouldn't cause wages to rise? What?
No, I'm saying we're experiencing supply issues which are driving inflation. This will peak. The average wage has risen - forget MW for a second - so when inflation peaks and returns to a steady 2 - 3%, workers will retain their wages. And we don't really know what the new normal will be, so I think it's wiser to wait out the recovery
 
Which might make sense in a world where nothing changes, but things have changed since this model was sustainable just by teenagers.
In was sustainable until Covid, so perhaps we could have CHINA subsidize.
 
No, I'm saying we're experiencing supply issues which are driving inflation. This will peak. The average wage has risen - forget MW for a second - so when inflation peaks and returns to a steady 2 - 3%, workers will retain their wages. And we don't really know what the new normal will be, so I think it's wiser to wait out the recovery
Wages have been lagging behind inflation for like sixty years. We're not in any danger of overshooting. People have waited too long already.

What harm do you foresee if we raise minimum wage tomorrow?
 
Wages have been lagging behind inflation for like sixty years. We're not in any danger of overshooting. People have waited too long already.

What harm do you foresee if we raise minimum wage tomorrow?
None, but I don't see any benefit either.
 
What is the benefit of making a fast food job a "career" job?
How many kids when asked "what is your dream job" answer fast food worker?

There isn't an unlimited supply of jobs. Sometimes its a matter of taking what is available.

Every kid wants to be an astronaut or doctor or lawyer or football player. Those jobs have limited supply, no matter how educated the populace becomes or how talented you may be. Also. more than 70% of McDonalds owners started out as crew people long ago, so yes, Virginia, there IS opportunity for those to become career jobs.
 
Wages have been lagging behind inflation for like sixty years. We're not in any danger of overshooting. People have waited too long already.

What harm do you foresee if we raise minimum wage tomorrow?
Who has been waiting to long I thought the west cost is up to $15 bucks an hour even Walmart?


Just a quick look at indeed South Carolina with their minimum wage @ $7.25 an hour


jobs in south Carolina​

Page 1 of 122,617 jobs


  • Assembler

    John Evans Mfg
    Sumter, SC 29150
    From $18.50 an hour
    Full-time
    10 hour shift
    Apply from your phoneUrgently hiring
    EmployerActive 11 days ago

    Position involves applying decals, mounting tires, and running electrical. Prior manufacturing work experience preferred but not required. $500 Sign-On BONUS!!
  • Grain Miller (Increased Payrate of $33.75)

    TreeHouse Foods
    Columbia, SC 29209
    $33.75 an hour
    Full-time
    Day shift+2
    Apply from your phone
    EmployerActive 2 days ago

    Under broad-general work direction, is responsible for providing the pasta manufacturing operation
  • Machine Operator Trainee

    Carolina Poly2.5
    Chester, SC 29706
    $22.25 an hour
    Full-time
    Day shift
 
None, but I don't see any benefit either.
...you don't see the benefits of raising wages for people who are suffering due to rapid inflation?
 
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