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Summer snow in Hawaii - Short video
5 Jun 11 - Storm drops several inches of snow on Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa, "a relatively rare sight in June."
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June storm brings winter weather to Hawaii mountains - Hawaii News - Staradvertiser.com


7 Jun 11 - NOAA's National Climate Data Center shows 1,103 low temperature records broken in the United states for May plus 627 tied records, for a total of 1,730.

Includes AL, AK, AR, AZ, CA, CO, FL, GA, HI, ID, IA, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, ME, MN, MO, MS, MT, NC, ND, NE, NJ, NM, NV, NY, OH, OK, OR, PA, SC, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WI, WV and WY.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/extremes/records/daily/mint/2011/05/00?sts[]=US
Chains or snow tires are required on portions of Interstate 80 and near the summit of the Mount Rose Highway this morning.

Here's a complete look at all area road controls as of 6:25 a.m.:
http://www.rgj.com/article/20110606...w-tires-required-stretches-80-Mount-Rose-Hwy-

GRAND COULEE DAM, Wash. – The giant concrete dams of the Pacific Northwest are overflowing with water. Wyoming has deployed National Guard troops to pile up sandbags. A federal official compares the impending situation to a bucking bull ready to storm out of his chute.
States across the West are bracing for major flooding in the coming weeks once a record mountain snowpack starts melting and sending water gushing into rivers, streams and low-lying communities. The catalyst will be warmer temperatures forecast for the next week that could set off a rapid thaw.
Snow melting, dams filling, floods feared in West - Yahoo! News

And for fun, glaciers growing at alarming pace, due to over heating earth because you drive SUV's.

List of expanding glaciers
 

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Translation:
"I'm mad at those warmers using anecdotal information to prove their point. You can't draw conclusions from random data points, you need all the data plotted over a long time frame!
Incidentally, here's some more anecdotes that show global warming isn't happening!"
 

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Translation:
"I'm mad at those warmers using anecdotal information to prove their point. You can't draw conclusions from random data points, you need all the data plotted over a long time frame!
Incidentally, here's some more anecdotes."

No, it's me mocking predictions of the earth warming with record cold, ice and snow pack melt.

Ya know, just like they predicted the earth warming would.. wait, do just the opposite!
 

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No, it's me mocking predictions of the earth warming with record cold, ice and snow pack melt.

Ya know, just like they predicted the earth warming would.. wait, do just the opposite!
Over the previous decade there are more record high temperatures than record lows, and overall ice caps are melting significantly.
So, your interpretation is wrong because you're looking at a limited dataset.
 

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Every year tens of thousands of individual record highs and record lows are measured in the US alone. Since the 70's the ratio of record highs:lows has gone from 0.7 to 2.0. [Source] [Original Source]

"It's cold somewhere" is not an argument against global warming, and "global warming means that there will never be record cold anywhere" is a pathetic strawman.
 

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I'm no scientist and I don't claim to understand climate science, although I think "Global climate change" would be a more accurate title for current global warming theories. Either way, yes its always a good idea to look at all the relevant data, the very definition of a "trend" is that it involves more than one data point.

For example if we graph X=Y we get an upward trend, where X is an amount and Y is time, we get an upward trend and after we plot 1=1, 2=2, 3=3, etc on our XY graph, we can be fairly certain that the next data point will be 4=4. However if we just look at 5=5 and graph a single point on the graph, who knows what kind of trend that data point is part of.
 

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Re: glaciers
The loss of Glaciers and Arctic Ice is breathtaking.

'Glacier National Park' will go from 150, 100 years ago, to single digits in 30 years.
'Snows of Kilmanjaro' no more.
the Gangroti Glacier (below) that feeds the Ganges River/India and ½ Billion people is Melting at a breathtaking pace in the last ¾ century.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR2007061600461.html
A Sacred River Endangered by Global Warming
Glacial Source of Ganges Is Receding
"This may be the first place on Earth where Global Warming could hurt our very religion. We are becoming an endangered species of Hindus," said Veer Bhadra Mishra, an engineer and director of the Varanasi-based Sankat Mochan Foundation, an organization that advocates for the preservation of the Ganges. "The melting glaciers are a terrible thing. We have to ask ourselves, who are the custodians of our culture if we can't even help our beloved Ganga?"
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But recent reports by scientists say the Ganges is under even greater threat from global warming. According to a U.N. climate report, the Himalayan glaciers that are the sources of the Ganges could disappear by 2030 as temperatures rise.

The shrinking glaciers also threaten Asia's supply of fresh water. The World Wildlife Fund in March listed the Ganges among the world's 10 most endangered rivers. In India, the river provides more than 500 million people with water for drinking and farming.

The immediate effect of glacier recession is a Short-lived surplus of water. But eventually the supply runs out, and experts predict that the Ganges eventually will become a seasonal river, largely dependent on monsoon rains.....
 
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India - Record snowfall revives 2,000 glaciers
17 Feb 11 - Already more snowfall this month than
1998 record for the entire month. Think you'll see
this in the mainstream media?
See India - Record snowfall revives 2,000 glaciers


NORWAY
Ålfotbreen Glacier
Briksdalsbreen Glacier
Nigardsbreen Glacier
Hardangerjøkulen Glacier
Hansebreen Glacier
Jostefonn Glacier
Engabreen glacier (The Engabreen glacier
is the second largest glacier in Norway. It is a
part (a glacial tongue) of the Svartisen glacier,
which has steadily increased in mass since the
1960s when heavier winter precipitation set in.)

Norway's glaciers growing at record pace. The face of the Briksdal glacier,
an off-shoot of the largest glacier in Norway and mainland Europe, is growing by an
average 7.2 inches (18 cm) per day. (From the Norwegian daily Bergens Tidende.)


Click here to see mass balance of Norwegian glaciers:
Norges vassdrags- og energidirektorat

Choose "English" (at top of the page), choose "Water,"
then "Hydrology," then "Glaciers and Snow" from the menu.
You'll see a list of all significant glaciers in Norway.
(Thanks to Leif-K. Hansen for this info.)
CANADA
Helm Glacier
Place Glacier

Glaciers growing on Canada’s tallest mountain
17 Nov 08 – The ice-covered peak of Yukon's soaring Mount Logan
may be due for an official re-measurement after readings that suggest
this country's superlative summit has experienced a growth spurt.
See Glaciers growing on Canada’s tallest mountain
FRANCE
Mt. Blanc - See Mont Blanc Glacier almost doubles in size
ECUADOR
Antizana 15 Alpha Glacier

Italy
Winter snows did not all melt on Italy’s Presena Glacier this summer
10 Nov 09 - 'Their massive base depth last season meant it didn’t all melt
over the summer so they have nearly a metre and a half of snow on the glacier
ski area already." (The second story of this kind in two years.)
See Winter snows did not all melt on Italy’s Presena Glacier this summer


Glaciers growing in Italy
8 Feb 11 - Glaciers are growing on two different mountains in Italy - Mount Canin and Mount Montasio. Will you see this in the main-stream media?
Glaciers growing in Italy
SWITZERLAND
Silvretta Glacier
KIRGHIZTAN
Abramov
RUSSIA
Maali Glacier (This glacier is surging. See below)


More info below


GREENLAND See Greenland Icecap Growing Thicker
Greenland glacier advancing 7.2 miles per year! The BBC recently ran
a documentary, The Big Chill, saying that we could be on the verge of an ice
age. Britain could be heading towards an Alaskan-type climate within a decade,
say scientists, because the Gulf Stream is being gradually cut off. The Gulf
Stream keeps temperatures unusually high for such a northerly latitude.
One of Greenland’s largest glaciers has already doubled its rate of advance,
moving forward at the rate of 12 kilometers (7.2 miles) per year. To see a
transcript of the documentary,
go to BBC - Science & Nature - Horizon - Big Chill


Greenland Ice Sheet Growing Thicker
4 Nov 05 - After gathering data for more than ten years, a team of
Norwegian-led scientists has found that the Greenland Ice Sheet is
actually growing thicker at its interior.
See Greenland Ice Sheet Growing Thicker


Rebellious Greenland Glacier Keeps Growing
26 July 10 - Berlingske Glacier has steadily grown for the past
100 years. And yet, it's not counted in the glacier inventory. Why
haven't we heard about this growing glacier?
See Rebellious Greenland Glacier Keeps Growing
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CHILE
Pio XI, the largest glacier in South America, grows
50 meters in height, length and density every day.
See Pio XI - Largest glacier in Chile - Growing every day

NEW ZEALAND
All 48 glaciers in the Southern Alps have grown during the past year.
The growth is at the head of the glaciers, high in the mountains, where they
gained more ice than they lost. Noticeable growth should be seen at the
foot of the Fox and Franz Josef glaciers within two to three years.(27 May 2003)
See New Zealand Glaciers Growing

Fox, Franz Josef glaciers defy trend - New Zealand's
two best-known glaciers are still on the march
31 Jan 07 - See Franz Josef Glacier still on the march

See also Pesky New Zealand Glaciers Growing

See also: Contrarian New Zealand Glaciers Keep Growing


ARGENTINA
Argentina's Perito Moreno Glacier, the largest glacier in Patagonia,
is advancing at the rate of 7 feet per day. The 250 km² ice formation,
30 km long, is one of 48 glaciers fed by the Southern Patagonian Ice
Field. This ice field, located in the Andes system shared with Chile,
is the world's third largest reserve of fresh water.
Perito Moreno Glacier - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

UNITED STATES
- Colorado (scroll down to see AP article)
- Washington (Mount St. Helens, Mt. Rainier* and Mt. Shuksan
- California (Mount Shasta - scroll down for info)
- Montana (scroll down for info)
- Glacier Peak, WA (scroll down for info
- Alaska (Mt. McKinley and Hubbard).

SPAIN
Glaciers growing in Spain (Pyrinees)
10 Jan 11 - El glaciar del Infierno (glacier of Hell) has advanced.
The mainstream media seems to have somehow missed this.
See Glaciers growing in Spain (Pyrinees)



Antarctica growing colder - Ice expanding
18 Apr 09 - "Ice is expanding in much of Antarctica," says this
article. In addition, the South Pole has shown "significant cooling
in recent decades".
See Antarctica growing colder - Ice expanding



Antarctic ice grows to record levels
13 Sep 07 - While the Antarctic Peninsula area has warmed
in recent years and ice near it diminished during the Southern
Hemisphere summer, the interior of Antarctica has been colder
and ice elsewhere has been more extensive and longer lasting,
See Antarctic ice grows to record levels


Oops - West Antarctic Ice Sheet
not losing ice as fast as we thought
20 Oct 09 — New measurements by
GPS Network suggest the rate of ice
loss of the West Antarctic ice sheet
has been slightly overestimated.
See Oops - West Antarctic Ice Sheet not losing ice as fast as we thought

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Antarctica's Filchner-Ronne Ice Shelf is growing
7 Dec 05 – Scientists Joughin and Bamber re-evaluated the mass balances
of the ice in Antarctica. "It is clear from the results of this study that the
Filchner-Ronne Ice Shelf is not rapidly, or even slowly, wasting away.
Quite to the contrary, it is growing."
See Antarctica's Filchner-Ronne Ice Shelf growing



Alaska's Hubbard Glacier advancing 7 feet per day!
10 May 09 – This from climatologist Cliff Harris of the Coeur d’Alene Press.
It's possible that the glacier could close the fjord by later this summer if the
current rate speeds up, says Harris.
See Alaska's Hubbard Glacier advancing 7 feet per day!



Global Warming? New Data Shows Ice Is Back
19 Feb 08 - A Feb. 18 report in the London Daily Express showed that there is nearly
a third more ice in Antarctica than usual, challenging the global warming crusaders and
buttressing arguments of skeptics who deny that the world is undergoing global warming.
See Most snow cover since 1966
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Mount St. Helens’ Crater Glacier Advancing Three Feet Per Day
25 Jun 07 - See Crater Glacier


Against odds, glacier grows in cauldron of Mt. St. Helens
15 May 08 – See Glacier grows in cauldron of Mt. St. Helens


Mount St. Helens glacier (Crater Glacier) growing 50 feet per year
September 20, 2004 - See Mount St. Helens

Glaciers growing on California's Mount Shasta!
12 Oct 03 - See Mount Shasta Glaciers Growing
9 Jul 08 - See also California Glaciers Growing
28 Mar 11 - See also Glaciers growing on Mt. Shasta


Geologists Unexpectedly Find 100 Glaciers in Colorado
7 Oct 01 See Colorado Glaciers Growing


Washington's Nisqually Glacier Advancing
But headline says "State's shrinking glaciers: Going ... going ... gone?"
1 Nov 06 - As far as I’m concerned, this Seattle Times article is another
case of misleading - if not downright dishonest - reporting.
See Nisqually Glacier Advancing
See also Nisqually Glacier

Glaciers in Montana's Glacier Park on the verge of growing
5 Oct 2002. See Glacier Park


Antarctic Ice Sheet is growing thicker
See Antarctic Icecap Growing Thicker
See Construction crane buried in the Antarctic Ice Sheet
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Largest glacier in Argentina advancing
15 Jun 09 – "Argentina's Perito Moreno glacier is (supposedly) one of only a few ice fields worldwide that have withstood rising global temperatures.”
See Largest glacier in Argentina advancing



Alaska's Hubbard Glacier advancing 7 feet per day!
10 May 09 – This from climatologist Cliff Harris of the Coeur d’Alene Press.
It's possible that the glacier could close the fjord by later this summer if the
current rate speeds up, says Harris.
See Alaska's Hubbard Glacier advancing 7 feet per day!


Glaciers growing on Glacier Peak, WA
16 Oct 08 – Email from reader
Before I moved to CO in 2005 it was obvious that the glaciers and snow
had receded and rock was visible in areas all the way to the peak. The glaciers
and snow are back now ... completely covered in white from top to bottom,
and this is after the "warm" summer months here in the PNW.
See Glaciers growing on Glacier Peak, WA
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Glaciers in Norway Growing Again
Scandinavian nation reverses trend, mirrors
results in Alaska, elsewhere, reports the Norwegian Water Resources and Energy Directorate.
See Glaciers in Norway Growing Again



Glaciers in western Himalayas thickening and expanding
Arctic ice cover above it’s 30-year average
23 Nov 08 - A study published by the American Meteorological Society
found that glaciers are only shrinking in the eastern Himalayas. Further
west, in the Hindu Kush and the Karakoram, glaciers are "thickening
and expanding".
See Glaciers in western Himalayas thickening and expanding
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Alaskan Glaciers Grow for First Time in 250 years
16 Oct 08 - High snowfall and cold weather to blame leading
to the increase in glacial mass.
See Alaskan Glaciers Grow for First Time in 250 years
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Growing Alaskan glaciers the start of a new Little Ice Age?
14 Oct 08 – “Never before in the history of a research project dating back
to 1946 had the Juneau Icefield witnessed the kind of snow buildup that
came this year. It was similar on a lot of other glaciers too.
See Growing Alaskan glaciers the start of a new Little Ice Age?
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Himalayan Glaciers Not Shrinking
Glacial Experts Question Theory of Global Warming
15 Feb 07 - See Himalayan Glaciers Not Shrinking
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Many people have asked why some glaciers in South America are melting.
I think it is perfectly understandable. Remember, we have had two of the
strongest El Ninos on record during the past 21 years. During an El Nino,
a narrow band of the Pacific Ocean warms by as much as 14 degrees. This
band of warm water travels east essentially along the equator until it slams
into South America.

It seems logical that the increased rainfall caused by El Nino, plus the
warmer winds blowing across the warmer water, could hasten glacial melt.
But let me say it again. I do not believe that this is caused by humans, I think
it is caused by the El Nino phenomenon, which is caused by underwater
volcanism, which is increasing due to the ice-age cycle.

With this said, let me point out many glaciers in South America remain
stable, and some - including the Pio XI Glacier and the Perito Moreno
Glacier - are growing. The Pio XI Glacier is the largest glacier in the
southern hemisphere. The Moreno Glacier is the largest glacier in Patagonia.

I find it curious that news reports do not mention these two glaciers.

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Contrary to previous reports, Arctic ice did not thin during the 1990s, say
researchers at the Department of Oceanography at Göteborg University in
Göteborg, Sweden. http://www.envirotruth.org/images/ice-in-90s.pdf

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Alaska Glacier Surges -17 Mar 06
See McGinnis Glacier
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Look at what's happening on Mt. Baker, in Washington State.
(Mt. Baker is near Mt. Shukson, where glaciers are now growing.)


This is a photo of my friend Jim Terrell taken on
Mt. Baker, Washington. Jim is more than six feet
tall. See the black line about six feet above his head?
That's where the snow from the winter of 1998/99
stopped melting. Above that, is snow that never
melted from the winter of 1999/2000. Why isn't
the media reporting this sort of thing?
List of expanding glaciers
 

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The loss of Glaciers and Arctic Ice is breathtaking.

'Glacier National Park' will go from 150, 100 years ago, to single digits in 30 years.
'Snows of Kilmanjaro' no more.
the Gangroti Glacier (below) that feeds the Ganges River/India and ½ Billion people is Melting at a breathtaking pace in the last ¾ century.




A Sacred River Endangered by Global Warming - washingtonpost.com
A Sacred River Endangered by Global Warming
Glacial Source of Ganges Is Receding
Your story is from 2007.
New Delhi - 11 Feb 07 - Some glacial experts have questioned the alarmists theory on global warming leading to shrinkage of Himalayan glaciers. VK Raina, a leading glaciologist and former ADG of GSI is one among them.

He feels that the research on Indian glaciers is negligible. Nothing but the remote sensing data forms the basis of these alarmists observations and not on-the-spot research.

Raina told the Hindustan Times that out of 9,575 glaciers in India, research has been conducted only on about 50. Nearly 200 years data has shown that nothing abnormal has occurred in any of these glaciers.

The issue of glacial retreat is being sensationalised by a few individuals, the septuagenarian Raina claimed.

However, Dr RK Pachouri, Chairman, Inter-Governmental Panel of Climatic Change said it’s recently released fourth assessment report has recorded increased glacier retreat since the 1980s.

But Raina, who has been associated with the research and data collection in over 25 glaciers in India and abroad, debunked the theory that Gangotri glacier is retreating alarmingly.
Record_Lows_2001


2011.

Guess what mbig, you're believing hype and lies.
 

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Your story is from 2007.
Record_Lows_2001

2011.
Guess what mbig, you're believing hype and lies.
Guess what.
My info is from the National Snow and Ice Data Center:

GLIMS: Global Glacier Recession

and your is from 'IceAgeNow.com' about some dissenting Indian Geologists.

Difficult to argue with the Satellite pictures (via http://asterweb.jpl.nasa.gov/) And the retreat tho.

More from NSIDC on the bigger/Global picture as well:

Measurements of Glacier Change

and

Contributions to Sea Level
 
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It's funny how you post this and this:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/envir...ctions-proving-accurate-2.html#post1059551622

Within about an hour of eachother.

The trend of glaciers is clearly a decline, globally speaking. See previous post on glacier mass as well as: (arctic sea ice)

You're essentially looking at a situation like where this arrow is:


And are concluding that glaciers are growing. In this case of "rapidly expanding" arctic sea ice, the expansion doesn't even make it back to the trend line.

Here's the sea ice data for each month.


You do understand that you're cherry picking only the expanding glaciers and are entirely ignoring the greater volume of shrinking, right?

 
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