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Minnesota suspected assassin Vance Boelter captured alive after intense manhunt for fatal shooting of Dem pol, spouse: report

Absentglare said:
This is about the MN shooter, a MAGA terrorist who targeted democratic officials for assassination.

Trump took many actions to incite behavior like this. It’s a known phenomenon, we even have a name for it: stochastic terrorism.
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People who want to start businesses to help impoverished people in Africa, fight desperately thorough democratic means to eliminate hunger in the United States, and was described by multiple people as "expressing frustration with what he saw as unjust suffering" is MAGA?

Do MAGA usually support Africa and feed the hungry? I had no idea. Why do non MAGA people not do this?

Is it possible he was just a leftist who decided that Democrats were ****ing up and not helping people?
 
justoneman said:
If they voted for the very liberal Obama, they are liberal.
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Well they say they are Conservative, so is it a conversion, like converting from Christian to Jewish? Or is it more like Conservatives who voted for Trump converted to stupid?
 
I understand the insanity defense holds in less than a quarter percent of felony cases.

I would think in something this high profile, the arguments will have to be pretty iron clad for people to buy it at all.
 
Some kind of weird jilted lover thing going on with him and Tampon Tim. Probably also involves the fat pizza guy he was living with.
 
cAPSLOCK said:
I understand the insanity defense holds in less than a quarter percent of felony cases.

I would think in something this high profile, the arguments will have to be pretty iron clad for people to buy it at all.
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The Insanity defense requires the defense to prove that the accused didn't know they were doing wrong at the time of the crime.

If the accused fled the scene and actively avoided apprehension then it pretty much removes the insanity defense since it shows they knew they broke the law.
 
jmotivator said:
The Insanity defense requires the defense to prove that the accused didn't know they were doing wrong at the time of the crime.

If the accused fled the scene and actively avoided apprehension then it pretty much removes the insanity defense since it shows they knew they broke the law.
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Ah. And honestly... I would not want to see this person get off that way.

What they did was beyond heinous.

Assuming this man is guilty (which currently seems hard to be anything other than obvious).
 
So what is up with the Wife heading north with guns, $10,000, the kids and passports? How is this not part of it? They stopped her and then let her go on her merry way.
 
jmotivator said:
The Insanity defense requires the defense to prove that the accused didn't know they were doing wrong at the time of the crime.

If the accused fled the scene and actively avoided apprehension then it pretty much removes the insanity defense since it shows they knew they broke the law.
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Esp. when they show up in a police uniform.
 
Lursa said:
Esp. when they show up in a police uniform.
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I suppose that would depend on if they actually believed they were a police officer. But yeah, intentional concealment torpedoes the insanity defense.
 
jmotivator said:
I suppose that would depend on if they actually believed they were a police officer. But yeah, intentional concealment torpedoes the insanity defense.
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But I'm sure they'll still try.
 
cpwill said:
This particular story is absolutely about a right wing dude who apparently decided F Democracy, and started murdering he believed were his "enemies". He may be surprised to learn that the Lord had a few things to say both about murder and vengeance.

And the next time a left wing dude decides to gun down a Jewish couple, or set a holocaust survivor on fire, or kill a health insurance executive, should right wing posters on this board use that to claim that the violence comes exclusively from the left, then they deserve to be reminded of this guy. If they want to claim that left wing media or political leaders are responsible the next time a Bernie bro decides to shoot up a Republican softball practice or set fire to a Jewish politicians' house with the family inside, then they deserve to be asked how much culpability right wing media has for this guy.

Because only the sides can ultimately police their extremes in a way that will lead to deescalation... but they can't do that if they insist their extremes don't exist, or aren't a problem.
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There's is some rather through research pertaining to this discussion.

Wanna guess the results?
 

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Linuxcooldude said:
Right thread. If one is complaining about a bad source, I can play that game too. Anybody that commits murder is bad.
That doesn’t mean we can use a false equivalency that all Republicans are bad.
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Nobody is using such a false equivalency... you're just unwilling to accept the fact that right wing extremists are about on par with Muslim extremists when it comes to acts of violence in the U.S.. Left wing extremists are much less likely... that doesn't mean all Republicans are bad.

The right wing has become more radicalized... look at right wing media 🕵️
 
Kushinator said:
Nobody is using such a false equivalency... you're just unwilling to accept the fact that right wing extremists are about on par with Muslim extremists when it comes to acts of violence in the U.S.. Left wing extremists are much less likely... that doesn't mean all Republicans are bad.

The right wing has become more radicalized... look at right wing media 🕵️
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C'mon. Both sides have a faction who are bad for America.
 
Jagged said:
C'mon. Both sides have a faction who are bad for America.
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Of course! But research shows right-wing extremism is far more violently prevalent than left-wing extremism... by a considerable amount.
 
Kushinator said:
Of course! But research shows right-wing extremism is far more violently prevalent than left-wing extremism... by a considerable amount.
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The BLM riots show otherwise. Hell, they took over a part of a city and renamed it Chaz.
 
Linuxcooldude said:
The BLM riots show otherwise. Hell, they took over a part of a city and renamed it Chaz.
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The research says otherwise, and the BLM summer was captured in their analysis. See post #442 to review the research.
 
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