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We would have been fools not to have done those bailouts, bro.So let me see if I have this straight....Billions in bail out funds for those who demo's are now painting as 'greedy', and unworthy.
It wasn't a trillion and half of it was tax cuts.More than a Trillion for a stimulus package that was really little more than a boon of pork, and a thousand pages.
Why in the hell do we need eleven aircraftcarriers, when no other nation has more than three?
I don't want a military big enough for evil men like George Bush to abuse.
We would have been fools not to have done those bailouts, bro.
It wasn't a trillion and half of it was tax cuts.
There would be a sizable anti-government movement even if the Afghan Government was a well oiled machine....That has always been the case in Afghanistan.
Those tactics required a large amount of troops to implement.
So not even trying is your answer?
Did you learn anything from Vietnam?
Good government likely would have won Vietnam.
Most of your links discuss relatively low level civil servant and soldiers in corruption. Karzai's government is corrupt from the top down. When the President is seen as corrupt, ineffective and incompetent that is nowhere near the same as the front line and middle servants of the government being corrupt, but the top of the government relatively clean.
Much of the change in strategy went through before soldiers got there.
Furthermore, we didn't need more troops when we turned the Sunnis to our side.
If more troops equated to winning, Indochina would still be under French rule.
Not trying what?
:rofl We had the Vietcong defeated.
We won every battle and ravaged their army,it was American public opinion and weak politicians that lost the war.
I call bs.....If you look through the links you would see that it is from top to bottom.
And the best results did'nt happen until AFTER reinforcements arrived.
The hell we did'nt.
No,Indochina would still be under French rule had they not had such poor leadership.
You do realize that the Vietcong learned their lesson in avoiding conventional battles no?
Where is it written that that is a hard and fast rule?
The country doesn't support these men though. The terrorist group that has take control of the country, and isn't supported by the populace does.I support attacking any country that allows these men sanctuary and gives them financial support.
Don, you are good as usual. However, we need to also consider the earmarks that infest our defense budget, and the wishy-washy politics over doctrine that plays state (i.e., DoD contractors) interests over needs. Bringing home the bacon is a primary consideration of Congress. Many times this differs from what the Pentagon asks for. Also, the Air Force is saddled with space-based responsibilities that likely exaggerate the size of the budget that could be directly linked to the war or normal warfighting capabilities.IMO, the U.S. should be careful to ensure that it makes sufficient investments in the military so as to meet the requirements that arise from its critical overseas interests. Needless to say, the hint of competition for funding between military needs and health care-related objectives is something that will become far more pronounced in the years ahead if the nation does not embark on a credible and sustained fiscal consolidation effort following the recession. A credible fiscal consolidation program would address the imbalances associated with the nation's mandatory spending programs.
At the same time, the growing cost differentials between the U.S. military and its foes is worrisome. In the long-run, financial considerations could give U.S. enemies an asymmetric advantage e.g., they would merely have to endure until the U.S. consumes its resources to the extent that the military efforts become politically unsustainable. Narrowing what is a growing cost-disadvantage is something that will need to be examined in a thoughtful and deliberate manner.
Three or four is enough, bro. That way evil Presidents like George Bush won't be so inclined to lie us into bogus wars.Aircraft carriers are excellent tools for power projection.Mobile airfields that have 100 aircraft each....Not a weapon you would want to do without.
How much cash you got, sport?I bet you cash money that it wasnt half.
Go read about the Tet Offensive, boo dog.And, by 1968, the Viet Cong were worn down to the point where they were totally combat ineffective.
At least there is someone in the US political system that does not give a cart blanc to the military. All government spending should be under review including military spending.
How much cash you got, sport?
Go read about the Tet Offensive, boo dog.
Three or four is enough, bro. That way evil Presidents like George Bush won't be so inclined to lie us into bogus wars.
Three or four is not enough, sis. Aircraft carriers allow flexibility that other weapon systems dont.
In the unwritten moral code. Most of use prefer not to kill the innocent along with those we are fighting. We have the technology to be as precise on our attacks as we need. There is no reason to bomb entire towns when all we need to do is take out a single house.
The country doesn't support these men though. The terrorist group that has take control of the country, and isn't supported by the populace does.
Address the political issue?
O'rly? Care to support this argument?
You do realize that the Vietcong learned their lesson in avoiding conventional battles no?
Counting won battles and ignoring everything else they did doesn't mean we were winning.
One wonders if you even read your articles.
Confusing correlation with causation eh? Every single COIN expert has stated that COIN operations take time to work.
By the way, it's didn't not did'nt. Normally I don't mention spelling errors, but you did it twice.
Let me know when you want to wager real money. I light my cigars with $50.00 bills.$50 bucks says it was less than 40%.
Let me know when you want to wager real money. I light my cigars with $50.00 bills.
Let me know when you want to wager real money. I light my cigars with $50.00 bills.
We don't need to be paying for half of the world's aircraft carriers.Carriers are key to our defense. Just to use an example from my personal experience: when Iraq invaded Kuwait, the Eisenhower battle group(with me on the Eisenhower) where inport Haifa Israel. The day after, we left for the Red sea, and entered it and went on station I think 3 days after the invasion of Kuwait(my memory is a bit cloudy, but 3 sounds right). That is over 7 thousand total troops, ~100 aircraft, long range strike capable, all with no base needed.
Let me know when you want to wager real money. I light my cigars with $50.00 bills.
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