Mike Rowe on record 4.5M quitting their jobs: This will impact ‘every single American’

[PirateMk1]

Community colleges teach trades.

Depends highly on the system and what they teach, the quality varies vastly as well as what is taught.

 

[PirateMk1]

Free isn't the issue, affordable is.
We don't need FREE college and FREE trade schools, we need colleges and trade schools which are affordable for EVERYONE who wants/needs them.
And if that eventually boils down to deserving and capable poor folks getting the free leg up that they need, so be it.

If both your parents work full time, and they're making something like 50 grand a year between them, they can't afford to send you to college or even a trade school, and as their kid you can't afford
to take on a whopper student loan that winds up strapping you to the hamster wheel instead of garnering you the upward mobility you sought in the first place.
That's the kind of income profile we're really talking about here...families that take in significantly MORE THAN 50 thousand a year can't afford it.
And if they have kids who can make the grade and who show the desire and initiative to learn and apply, and we DON'T invest in them, then we're actually cheating ourselves as a society and allowing
poverty to win.

The entire country doesn't need free college, and the entire country doesn't need free trade school.
But a very large portion of us DO...just not the ENTIRE country.
This subtle difference in reasoning is erased by slogans like "free college" and the political Right certainly enjoys chewing the scenery by tying it to their biggest whine of all: "FREE STUFF!".
It's NOT "free stuff", it's an investment in a deserving slice of the younger generation, and an investment in our future.

Subsidies are what caused the rise in costs in the first place. Take the government out of education and loans and allow educational loans be able to be discharged in bankruptcy and the problem takes care of itself as education will have to make itself a viable investment which it is not really now.

 

[JasperL]

Mike Rowe on record 4.5M quitting their jobs: This will impact ‘every single American’

Mike Rowe warns that more Americans leaving their jobs will impact smooth roads, indoor plumbing, affordable electricity and so forth.

www.foxbusiness.com

It's time to shine the light on the free college nonsense, and the myth that the trades are no place to be. If we're going to have free college, then we need free trade schools. You can earn a good living, and be prosperous as a trademan if you get the right certifications, and apply yourself. You won't have to worry about getting paid ONLY minimum wage, because you'll never be close.

42 In-Demand High-Paying Trade Jobs That Don't Need a Degree | Snagajob

42 In-Demand High-Paying Trade Jobs That Don't Need a DegreeIf you feel college is the only way to make money, live comfortably, and have a career,

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You can prove me wrong if you want, but every 'free college' plan I've seen includes trade schools. I know in Tennessee the scholarships are for any 2 year program at community college, and applied technology colleges, which include training in many of the trades.

 

[Gaius46]

The comment was why we've been sold the idea that university is the be-all end-all for better income.

Sorry. I misunderstood you. Agreed.

 

[JasperL]

I don't have any problem with Rowe talking about tradesman jobs. It is a concerning issue. But that snippet video from Varney's show doesn't say a thing about how $4.5 million people quitting or changing jobs has anything to do with that.

The fact is, it doesn't. A lot of those people quitting or changing jobs are doing that more because of inflation than anything else. They are trying to get BETTER PAYING jobs so they can keep up.

But the story is more complicated than that. There are a lot of factors into why there are 4.5 million people quitting/changing their jobs.

This article talks about it: https://theconservativetreehouse.co...total-quits-rate-now-4-5-million/#more-224294

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It’s not a single factor leading to this quits rate data. As you can see, there is a snowball effect inside the data. Wages earned, including any pay raises, have been chewed up by much higher inflation. When we look back upon this economy in a year, I am quite certain we will identify the inflection point as June of 2021. That’s when things peaked and started to go down.​

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Keep in mind, inflation has a big impact on job turnover. When people feel inflation, they look for pay raises. Larger employers are slower to respond to pay raises driven by worker needs, and many have very structured pay raise guidance.​

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Ex. if a worker needs a raise (immediate inflation driven), and the boss or organization is less responsive (structured pay raise schedule or performance review), the worker can get a faster pay raise by quitting their employer and going to work at a higher entry wage rate with another firm. If the job market is tight, the worker can make much more doing this. This is called job-jumping. In my opinion, this is a big factor right now.​

As is typical of those kinds of sites, they don't make any sense. What has a big effect on worker turnover is being able to get a job at a higher wage, inflation or not. You don't need inflation to tell a guy making $15/hour, who can quit and get $20/hour to change jobs. People look for pay raises whenever they can get them and in a tight jobs market they CAN get them, and so are doing that. It's also freed up a bunch of people in crap jobs with crap supervisors to tell them to f right off, they'll work somewhere else.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Mike Rowe is now the far right expert?
Utterly laughable.

I was kind of hoping he'd stick with being more or less apolitical, as in the past.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Why would you believe anything Mike Rowe said? Isn't he the RWNJ "Oilsplainer" guy?

Ehhhhh, I wouldn't want to paint him as a radical.
Of course, maybe in the intervening years he may have become radical but I didn't notice it.
I sure hope not, he's a decent guy, or had been one in the past.

 

[H B Lowrey]

Mike Rowe on record 4.5M quitting their jobs: This will impact ‘every single American’

Mike Rowe warns that more Americans leaving their jobs will impact smooth roads, indoor plumbing, affordable electricity and so forth.

www.foxbusiness.com

It's time to shine the light on the free college nonsense, and the myth that the trades are no place to be. If we're going to have free college, then we need free trade schools. You can earn a good living, and be prosperous as a trademan if you get the right certifications, and apply yourself. You won't have to worry about getting paid ONLY minimum wage, because you'll never be close.

42 In-Demand High-Paying Trade Jobs That Don't Need a Degree | Snagajob

42 In-Demand High-Paying Trade Jobs That Don't Need a DegreeIf you feel college is the only way to make money, live comfortably, and have a career,

www.snagajob.com

Tell your "job creators". They have this affinity for "illegals" and foreign communist workers.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

They're only the "driver" seat because the government paid them to be there. Once the unemployment bribes go away, the party is over.

Every state that cut UI bennies early got a rude shock, there WAS NO dramatic uptick in employment like they insisted.
Want me to show you?

 

[BlueTex]

Depends highly on the system and what they teach, the quality varies vastly as well as what is taught.

That's true of the private schools as well..

 

[PirateMk1]

That's true of the private schools as well..

True dat.

 

[Cynical]

He’s not wrong. We’ve sold college as the way to a better life and it just isn’t so.
First college in isn’t appropriate for everyone. And second you don’t need to have a college degree to make a good living. It’s anecdotal but I know electrical engineers who’ve quit the while collar jobs and become union electricians because it pays better.

We also have lots of kids graduating college with skills that no one wants.

What are talking about? Being able to sit through 4 years of boring lectures is a highly sought after skill!

 

[Cynical]

Community colleges teach trades.

They should but from what I looked at around my area they currently don't.