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Mike Pence may have helped save the republic on 1/06/2021

But in any case, paraphrasing from the "40 Year Old Virgin" skit:

"You know how I know Mike Pence did the right thing? The Trumpers despise him and want him dead even more now."

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i promise that i'm not being a contrarian, he said, while being a contrarian.

that being said, they voted for Romney. if it's Palpatine vs Harris, my guess is that he'll get the votes of most of the King Tangface crowd. if it makes you feel any better, though, i don't see it happening for him. if it makes you feel any worse, my predictions suck.
 
It's not like HuffPo to write a glowing article about the former vice president, but credit is where it is due.


It's rare for me to say this, but for once, thank you, Mr. Pence. Thank you for helping to thwart the treasonists. (y)

**** him.
 
Pence didn't save the Republic, the Congress did.
 
he was never going to do that. he deserves no credit for not doing what he wasn't going to do anyway, IMO.

Now, hold on there a minute. I was only asking for accolades for not doing horrible shit that I thought about doing. If we include horrible shit I wouldn't do, we could be accolading me all night.
 
It's not like HuffPo to write a glowing article about the former vice president, but credit is where it is due.


It's rare for me to say this, but for once, thank you, Mr. Pence. Thank you for helping to thwart the treasonists. (y)
Wrong ! He HELP THE COUP against the American Voters ! This was an Act of War against America .

Think about it ( Yeah I laughed too) Pence, McConnell , And Judge Roberts DID NOT want anyone to look at the evidence, Data, nor the Eye witnesses !
If Trump was wrong that would help convict him ! But if he is right the America lost her ability to allow the American Voters the RIGHT / Freedom to Pick our President!

Even if you hate Trump isn't having a Rigged , Fascist Voting system in the US far more troubling?
 
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Oh trust me, as much as I despise Pence I've been giving him full credit for at least doing the right thing on 1/6.
Because HE DID do the right thing.
Simple as that.
What choice did he have? The legalities of the situation were made clear to him...he didnt have the authority to do what The Donald wanted...he couldnt do anything to stop the vote that day. He'd have looked even more stupid and he'd have looked delusional...like The Donald.

So he was smart enough to do his job which was basically ceremonial.
 
It's not like HuffPo to write a glowing article about the former vice president, but credit is where it is due.


It's rare for me to say this, but for once, thank you, Mr. Pence. Thank you for helping to thwart the treasonists. (y)
I hate that we have to thank someone for not being a complete traitor to our nation and governing system ... but thanks to the GOP circa now, we do. Thank you I guess, Pence, for not being a total craven and installing a despot.
 
What choice did he have? The legalities of the situation were made clear to him...he didnt have the authority to do what The Donald wanted...he couldnt do anything to stop the vote that day. He'd have looked even more stupid and he'd have looked delusional...like The Donald.

So he was smart enough to do his job which was basically ceremonial.
I disagree. Legalities only matter if the enforcement is there, and Trump and his traitor army and belatedly-installed military toadies would not enforce anything. They chased off congress while egged on by POTUS for ***'s sake. Much less the spineless lackey pols of the former R party, who will do anything Trump demands (as has been shown again and again and again and again). The scary part now is that they are still culling dissenters and forcing adherence to a "stolen" election narrative as a loyalty oath for anyone who wants to run for office as an R ... and most cowards in Congress are going along with it. This threat to free society has not passed by any means.
 
I disagree. Legalities only matter if the enforcement is there, and Trump and his traitor army and belatedly-installed military toadies would not enforce anything. They chased off congress while egged on by POTUS for ***'s sake. Much less the spineless lackey pols of the former R party, who will do anything Trump demands (as has been shown again and again and again and again). The scary part now is that they are still culling dissenters and forcing adherence to a "stolen" election narrative as a loyalty oath for anyone who wants to run for office as an R ... and most cowards in Congress are going along with it. This threat to free society has not passed by any means.
Full knowledge of that only came after Pence did his duty in the Congressional Chambers 1/6, I dont think he remotely imagined what ended up happening. (Who in their right mind did?)

I believe that legal advisors put the fear of God in his head...and let's face it...it was obvious The Donald lost. Pence did not have the authority and that was made very clear to him. Pence knew he'd be on the wrong side of history.
 
Full knowledge of that only came after Pence did his duty in the Congressional Chambers 1/6, I dont think he remotely imagined what ended up happening. (Who in their right mind did?)

I believe that legal advisors put the fear of God in his head...and let's face it...it was obvious The Donald lost. Pence did not have the authority and that was made very clear to him. Pence knew he'd be on the wrong side of history.
OK, that's fair. Had he sided with a Trump coup and it not panned out, he might have ended up executed for treason (the same fate the Trumper mob had in mind for him, ironically). Aside: remember the good old days when Americans were not trying to overthrow their government?
 
The decision to finish taking and accepting the state results THAT SAME DAY, was made by three people, Pelosi, McConnell and Pence. If they had decided to stall it, even by 24 hours, and not push the entire Congress to return and finish that responsibility, without knowing exactly the scope and reach of these insurrectionists.... that was vital. Giving them and Trump any time to mobilize more unrest, more pipebombs, and more kidnappings could have been lethal. They did not know who was and who was not in danger as they finished their work. Pence took the greatest personal and political risk of those three. He deserves the credit.
 
The decision to finish taking and accepting the state results THAT SAME DAY, was made by three people, Pelosi, McConnell and Pence. If they had decided to stall it, even by 24 hours, and not push the entire Congress to return and finish that responsibility, without knowing exactly the scope and reach of these insurrectionists.... that was vital. Giving them and Trump any time to mobilize more unrest, more pipebombs, and more kidnappings could have been lethal. They did not know who was and who was not in danger as they finished their work. Pence took the greatest personal and political risk of those three. He deserves the credit.
Ever get the feeling the adult Republicans know how dangerous this all is, but can't resist playing with fire and relying on Ds to put a stop to the coup?
 
It's not like HuffPo to write a glowing article about the former vice president, but credit is where it is due.


It's rare for me to say this, but for once, thank you, Mr. Pence. Thank you for helping to thwart the treasonists. (y)

It's not like Pence chose not to do what Trump wanted him to do; he literally had no legal mechanism to do that.
 
It’s sad that we now praise a Republican for not upending democracy.
 
Pence is a hero of January 6.

He certified the election despite the demands of his boss.

He ignored his boss, finally, and unlawfully ordered Mike Flynn's brother, commanding officer of the NG, to clear the filthy insurgents out of the capitol (this was Trump's job, and he refused to do it).
And this is why Pence is a hero.

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i promise that i'm not being a contrarian, he said, while being a contrarian.

that being said, they voted for Romney. if it's Palpatine vs Harris, my guess is that he'll get the votes of most of the King Tangface crowd. if it makes you feel any better, though, i don't see it happening for him. if it makes you feel any worse, my predictions suck.
Republicans will either run Trump or a Trump-wanna-be. Whoever they run is guaranteed to be another scum sucking opportunistic grifter because that's all that's left of their party.
 
Republicans will either run Trump or a Trump-wanna-be. Whoever they run is guaranteed to be another scum sucking opportunistic grifter because that's all that's left of their party.

It's a sad state of affairs.
 
Now, hold on there a minute. I was only asking for accolades for not doing horrible shit that I thought about doing. If we include horrible shit I wouldn't do, we could be accolading me all night.
True, but the fact is that Pence did do the right thing in the face of tremendous pressure and even danger. You deserve no credit for not robbing a bank. You do deserve credit for not robbing a bank if someone is holding a gun to your head and threatening to shoot you and your family if you don't rob the bank.
 
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True, but the fact is that Pence did do the right thing in the face of tremendous pressure and even danger. You deserve no credit for not robbing a bank. You do deserve credit for not robbing a bank if someone is hold a gun to your head and threatening to shoot you and your family if you don't rob the bank.

Seems like being rewarded for choosing bad friends.
 
Seems like being rewarded for choosing bad friends.
It was nice that he stuck to his principles instead of his friends on that one day. What disgusts me is that since then, he's been trying to cozy back up to said friends. It won't do him any good.
 
Wrong ! He HELP THE COUP against the American Voters ! This was an Act of War against America .

Think about it ( Yeah I laughed too) Pence, McConnell , And Judge Roberts DID NOT want anyone to look at the evidence, Data, nor the Eye witnesses !
If Trump was wrong that would help convict him ! But if he is right the America lost her ability to allow the American Voters the RIGHT / Freedom to Pick our President!

Even if you hate Trump isn't having a Rigged , Fascist Voting system in the US far more troubling?
We know from every investigation done to date, most of which were done by republicans, to include the recounts and numerous audits, that there was no fraud in the 2020 election.
 
It's not like HuffPo to write a glowing article about the former vice president, but credit is where it is due.


It's rare for me to say this, but for once, thank you, Mr. Pence. Thank you for helping to thwart the treasonists. (y)

Mike Pence spent the entire Trump presidency peddling his lies and spent the entire 2 months prior January 6th complicit with the stop the steal lie. The man deserves no accolades for refusing to do what he didn't have the power to do anyway on January 6th. The guy is nothing more than a slimy, opportunistic sociopath. In many ways he is even worse than Trump because at least in Trump's case you can attribute much of his actions to the fact that he is a highly disturbed man. With Pence it was nothing but pure opportunism.
 
It's not like HuffPo to write a glowing article about the former vice president, but credit is where it is due.


It's rare for me to say this, but for once, thank you, Mr. Pence. Thank you for helping to thwart the treasonists. (y)

It's clear he did help save the republic. Though he's mealy mouthed in the face of trump supporters since, he stood by and did his duty that day - certified th duly tallied election results and did not cave in to sore losers - like his boss - who demanded he do the opposite.
 
"Didn't commit treason" doesn't make someone a hero any more than "didn't commit homicide" does.
 
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