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Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion [W:34]

Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

LOL and you need to read what you want to be signed up for. I said he should join the Old White Straight People Party and you asked where you could sign up at. Maybe if you didn't want to be associated with racists, you should read what you want to be signed up as.

I think you are backpeddling pretty hard now. Reading is your friend.

im not back peddling, you assumed Huckabee was a racist based on his religious views. Own your comment, you are the one deflecting. According to you Christians are racist, its hard to image such a bigoted view in this day and age but here you are. Better own it because it will not be forgotten.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

im not back peddling, you assumed Huckabee was a racist based on his religious views. Own your comment, you are the one deflecting. According to you Christians are racist, its hard to image such a bigoted view in this day and age but here you are. Better own it because it will not be forgotten.

Sorry, but YOU are the one who needs to own wanting to sign up for the Old White Straight People's Party. I could care less what you forget. You don't scare me, random anonymous internet poster. Keep that backpeddling going, you're going faster :lamo
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

I wont quit if gay marriage is framed as a states rights issue. I will quit over any change to the abortion platform.
Likewise, I'll quit over any changes to the current GOP views on religous freedom.

If beating the democrats means becoming the democrats, then I have no interest in beating them.

What if gay marriage were reframed as an individual liberty issue?

I don't support X, but will defend your right to X anyway.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

Bye Mike, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

Bye Mike, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

I was thinking the same thing. Real conservatism plays in the country. He's not a real conservative.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

I was thinking the same thing. Real conservatism plays in the country. He's not a real conservative.

Come on, conservatism doesn't play anymore, you've got the liberals and the neo-cons, who are just religious crazy liberals. There are no more actual conservatives around on the political scene.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

Good let him form his own "Old White Straight People Party".

There actually isn't anything wrong with being old, white and straight. I qualify for all 3 (I'm 52 and AARP loves to send me mail). I wouldn't join a party like that because it's social, and not political, but it isn't bad to be old, white and straight.

That said, Huckabee has his fans, and I've never been one of them. He is very religious, and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't believe he's racist though.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

Bye then Mr. Huckabee. These type of 5 year old tempertantrum ultimatums are ridiculous. Is only your special brand of breaking with conservatism allowed mr. Huckabee?
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

Moderator's Warning:
The lot of you need to stop flaming and baiting and start talking about the topic
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

Come on, conservatism doesn't play anymore, you've got the liberals and the neo-cons, who are just religious crazy liberals. There are no more actual conservatives around on the political scene.
The Democrats are about to get their clocks cleaned in the election and you are trying to claim that conservatism doesn't play?

Conservatism plays just fine. The problem is that way too many people who claim to be conservatives fail to actually put that into practice once in office.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

The Democrats are about to get their clocks cleaned in the election and you are trying to claim that conservatism doesn't play?

Conservatism plays just fine. The problem is that way too many people who claim to be conservatives fail to actually put that into practice once in office.

Yes, because even if they do get their clocks cleaned, it will be neo-conservatism, not conservatism that wins. The two are very, very different. Conservatism is about fiscal responsibility. Neo-cons wouldn't know that if it kicked them in the butt. It's about small government, neo-cons never saw a government expansion they didn't like. It's about keeping the government out of the lives of the people, neo-cons are every bit as bad as the liberals when it comes to government intrusion. These people aren't conservatives in any way, shape or form. They're hyper-religious liberals.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

What if gay marriage were reframed as an individual liberty issue?

I don't support X, but will defend your right to X anyway.

I could go with that. At the same time, what constitutes as marriage has never been entirely up to individuals. Rather, it is a societal definition. As such, no society is obligated to recognize any particular relationship as a marriage.

That fine point aside, yes, I think I could go with gay marriage is an individual freedom concept, but I would prefer to keept it a states rights (societal) issue.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

It seems there are a lot of Huck haters responding to this thread. My question is, why does it matter to you if you don't like the guy to begin with?
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

Sorry, but YOU are the one who needs to own wanting to sign up for the Old White Straight People's Party. I could care less what you forget. You don't scare me, random anonymous internet poster. Keep that backpeddling going, you're going faster :lamo

Im not backpeddling im not afriad to supoort Mike Huckabee. You wont admit to your dastardly accusation of racism towards him and are trying to shift the conversation.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

It seems there are a lot of Huck haters responding to this thread. My question is, why does it matter to you if you don't like the guy to begin with?

Liberals cant pass up an opportunity to show their religious bigotry
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

... conservatives by nature stand on the side of power structures that are gradually dissolved through historical selection. Seeing how often cultures have changed over humanity's 100,000+ year history, you would expect them to be on the "wrong side" of history.

The conservatives of yesteryear have at best a vague family resemblance to the conservatives of 2014.

I think you are mistaken. There are far more examples of liberals of yesteryear being a vague resemblance to the "progressives" of today.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

I wont quit if gay marriage is framed as a states rights issue. I will quit over any change to the abortion platform.
Likewise, I'll quit over any changes to the current GOP views on religous freedom.

If beating the democrats means becoming the democrats, then I have no interest in beating them.

I would never support the trash that call themselves democrats today.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

What if gay marriage were reframed as an individual liberty issue?

I don't support X, but will defend your right to X anyway.

That is how i see it. Its ok that huckabee disagrees. I agree with him on many other issues.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

Yes, because even if they do get their clocks cleaned, it will be neo-conservatism, not conservatism that wins. The two are very, very different. Conservatism is about fiscal responsibility. Neo-cons wouldn't know that if it kicked them in the butt. It's about small government, neo-cons never saw a government expansion they didn't like. It's about keeping the government out of the lives of the people, neo-cons are every bit as bad as the liberals when it comes to government intrusion. These people aren't conservatives in any way, shape or form. They're hyper-religious liberals.

Who are these "neocon" boogeymen you rant about? Really, libs call everyone they disagree with either a racist or a neocon.

Its an old ploy and its tired.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

Good let him form his own "Old White Straight People Party".

Is that a racist joke? Joke out of prejudice?

Seems like it... it seems you are assuming he's racist and wants to form a political party that is all old and white.... just because he's old and white.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

Who are these "neocon" boogeymen you rant about? Really, libs call everyone they disagree with either a racist or a neocon.

Its an old ploy and its tired.

No, conservatives playing the race card card is getting old. You guys bring up racism preemptively, all the time.
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

Yes, because even if they do get their clocks cleaned, it will be neo-conservatism, not conservatism that wins. The two are very, very different. Conservatism is about fiscal responsibility. Neo-cons wouldn't know that if it kicked them in the butt. It's about small government, neo-cons never saw a government expansion they didn't like. It's about keeping the government out of the lives of the people, neo-cons are every bit as bad as the liberals when it comes to government intrusion. These people aren't conservatives in any way, shape or form. They're hyper-religious liberals.
People don't vote for neo-conservatism, they vote for conservatism. They get pissed when they find out the person they voted for lied to them. This is the problem the GOP has. They just can't seem to walk it like they talk it and the stupid people that keep falling for it are starting to get wise to their game.
 
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Well it looks like Mike Huckabee is gonna be on the wrong side of history... :mrgreen:[/I]
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He is right though. I don't think the Republican Party can maintain any real people without the backing of the Christian Community. One can argue that power is already waning, (and I don't disagree) but it would go from a slow death to a sudden plummet. I've said in the past before that this nation is ready for a new party, a Libertarian one at that. Honestly, if you take the Church out of the Republican Party, how much difference is there between the a Libertarian and a Republican?
 
Re: Mike Huckabee: I'll quit the GOP if they give in on gay marriage and abortion

The Democrats are about to get their clocks cleaned in the election and you are trying to claim that conservatism doesn't play?

Conservatism plays just fine. The problem is that way too many people who claim to be conservatives fail to actually put that into practice once in office.

Face it though Jack, even if it turns out that "Democrats get their clocks cleaned" in November, do you honestly believe it's because there's a ground swell of support for Republicans? Have you seen the polling on Republicans recently?
 
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He is right though. I don't think the Republican Party can maintain any real people without the backing of the Christian Community. One can argue that power is already waning, (and I don't disagree) but it would go from a slow death to a sudden plummet. I've said in the past before that this nation is ready for a new party, a Libertarian one at that. Honestly, if you take the Church out of the Republican Party, how much difference is there between the a Libertarian and a Republican?
There's this group of people who describe themselves as moderate. Some might buy the "smaller government, lower spending" facade platform but are turned off by the radical evangelical wing that insists on making America some Christian Theocracy.
 
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