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Mexico agrees to deploy 10,000 troops to US border in exchange for tariff pause

Paradoxical said:
You should actually read the links you post. If you did you would have found this:

On Wednesday, the Biden administration announced it would build an approximately 20-mile (32km) section of border wall in the area, an announcement that stood in stark contrast to then-candidate Joe Biden's 2020 declaration that he would not build "another foot of wall" as president. He halted construction on his first day in office.

This was a report from your state-run news that he claimed he would do this and not that he did it.

I don't know how someone who is thoroughly owned keeps coming back like Cool Hand Luke thinking he beat the other guy when he is all bloodied and can barely stand up.
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So Biden did continue building Trump's wall, despite your denials. Good lord...

 
trixare4kids said:
I don't think the Democratic Party ever figured that Trump would be legally free to run for the presidency again, and that in fact, led to their demise. Look how lazy they both were until the fourth quarter to pay attention to the polls on immigration being one of the main issues for the electorate. An issue they pretty ignored as being valid to the voters.

After doing nothing constructive for four years the only thing left was for them to do was hurl their toxicity and voter shame.
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What did Trump do during his last term, except play golf, that you would consider a constructive achievement? On theother hand here's what the Biden administration actually did achieve...and outperformed Trump by any metric you care to mention.

apnews.com

Biden's legacy: Far-reaching accomplishments that didn't translate into political support

Historians and political advisers say history will be kinder to President Joe Biden than voters have been.
apnews.com apnews.com

www.bloomberg.com

What Has Biden Accomplished? Look at These 10 Metrics, Not the Polls

Biden has outperformed Trump on a number of fronts, from inequality and green spending to stocks and crime. But not all.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com
 
snakestretcher said:
So Biden did continue building Trump's wall, despite your denials. Good lord...

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At this point, I am beginni9ng to wonder if you are just trolling by coming back with the SAME link you posted before that Biden DID continue to build the wall.

You posted that link before and forgot? I thoroughly rebutted it by telling you that there is NO evidence whatsoever that Biden built even 20additional FEET of wall. I told you that the story and photo was a photo op, and he never had any intention of building any more wall and he said he would only to placate people from his own party imploring him to do something about the invasion.

And people like you, even from other countries like yourself, ate the story up lisle Biden eating ice cream in a nursing home, not bothering to check.
 
Paradoxical said:
At this point, I am beginni9ng to wonder if you are just trolling by coming back with the SAME link you posted before that Biden DID continue to build the wall.

You posted that link before and forgot? I thoroughly rebutted it by telling you that there is NO evidence whatsoever that Biden built even 20additional FEET of wall. I told you that the story and photo was a photo op, and he never had any intention of building any more wall and he said he would only to placate people from his own party imploring him to do something about the invasion.

And people like you, even from other countries like yourself, ate the story up lisle Biden eating ice cream in a nursing home, not bothering to check.
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Your opinion is noted-and rejected. You might explain how it is that every news report of Biden continuing Trump's wall, is wrong. You can invent whatever excuses your imagination can conjure up, but you'll still be wrong. You're always wrong; your posting history is clear evidence. Remind us, how many Covid deaths did you confidently predict?

www.bbc.co.uk

President Biden expands Mexican border wall - but can it stop crossings?

Experts say it is unlikely the barrier will have any long-term impact on migration flows.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
snakestretcher said:
Your opinion is noted-and rejected. You might explain how it is that every news report of Biden continuing Trump's wall, is wrong. You can invent whatever excuses your imagination can conjure up, but you'll still be wrong. You're always wrong; your posting history is clear evidence. Remind us, how many Covid deaths did you confidently predict?

www.bbc.co.uk

President Biden expands Mexican border wall - but can it stop crossings?

Experts say it is unlikely the barrier will have any long-term impact on migration flows.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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You and I are done. You also posted that link before as well. With all the fanfare, he did NOT build any additional wall. This repeated posting that he claimed he WOULD build more even though he did not is far too outlandish for me to continue with.

I live here in the United States, snakestretcher and have been to the border. I live in a state bordering it. You live in Europe. Like so many other topics here, you don't know what you're talking about.

NO ADDITIONAL WALL WAS BUILT BY BIDEN.
 
Paradoxical said:
You and I are done. You also posted that link before as well. With all the fanfare, he did NOT build any additional wall. This repeated posting that he claimed he WOULD build more even though he did not is far too outlandish for me to continue with.

I live here in the United States, snakestretcher and have been to the border. I live in a state bordering it. You live in Europe. Like so many other topics here, you don't know what you're talking about.

NO ADDITIONAL WALL WAS BUILT BY BIDEN.
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No mate, you're done. You lost. See you in my mirrors.

www.newsweek.com

Border wall map reveals what Joe Biden is building compared to Trump

On Thursday, Biden signed off on constructing 20 miles of new barriers in the Rio Grande Valley, saying the money had been appropriated before he took office.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com

 
Tigerace117 said:
Repeating the same drivel over and over because you lack the spine to acknowledge the facts doesn’t change them.
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Reality hasn’t changed. You are unable to prove he lied.
 
rahl said:
Reality hasn’t changed. You are unable to prove he lied.
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Except I’ve already done so....repeatedly.

The evidence contradicts his story in numerous different ways, as already laid out throughout the thread.

He lied. Blatantly.
 
rahl said:
You tried to cite wiki, and got laughed at.

So you can’t prove he lied. Thank you.
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Multiple other articles have been provided proving everything wiki stated, so that argument doesn’t work....not that it ever did 😂

Spamming the same blind denials because you lack the spine to face the fact he lied can’t change the facts.
 
snakestretcher said:
Source?
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The source is the poster who cited it and I was responding to, which he/she cited as their source:

www.factcheck.org

Trump’s Misleading Chart on Illegal Immigration - FactCheck.org

During a speech in Green Bay, Wisconsin, former President Donald Trump pointed to a chart on apprehensions of people trying to enter the U.S. illegally at the southwest border. "See the arrow on the bottom? That was my last week in office," he said. "That was the lowest number in history." But...
www.factcheck.org www.factcheck.org
 
Tigerace117 said:
Multiple other articles have been provided proving everything wiki stated, so that argument doesn’t work....not that it ever did 😂
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Nope. Wiki articles and hearsay.
Tigerace117 said:
Spamming the same blind denials because you lack the spine to face the fact he lied can’t change the facts.
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So you can’t prove he lied. Thank you.
 
Paradoxical said:
It was NOT built.
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In 2020, Biden opposed the wall and asserted: “A wall is not a serious deterrent for sophisticated criminal organizations that employ border tunnels, semi-submersible vessels, and aerial technology to overcome physical barriers at the border — or even for individuals with a reciprocating saw.” And he promised that "not another foot of wall would be constructed" under his watch—the president, sitting in the Oval Office on Thursday, responded with a flat: "No.""

None the less, Congress approved an additional funding of $1.375 billion “for the construction of [a] barrier system along the southwest border” in both the appropriations bills for FY 2020 and for FY 2021.

On the day he took office, 1/20/2021 Biden proclaimed the shelving of Southwest border barrier construction (including walls) even though the funds had been appropriated for that project. On January 27, construction stopped and vast amounts of material (eg thousands of wall panels) were left in the desert.

In March of 2021 Republican senators asked the GAO to render an opinion on the legality of Biden's order to halt spending for construction, it being the same as an "impoundment of funds" in violation of the Impoundment Control Act (ICA).

Three months later the GAO rescued Biden saying it was not a violation of the ICA because the DHS had not yet complied with the environmental requisites so while appropriated they were not technically obligated, using the debatable reasoning that it was just being "delayed" not stopped.

The next two years saw miles of fencing panels stacked seven feet high, electrical boxes, etc. littering the desert in vast quantities... as Biden intended.

Then in July 2022 administration announced it would resume — on a very limited basis — border infrastructure projects to plug “gaps” in the unfinished wall in a small and specific area, Yuma, Ariz. ... one motivation being to assist the 2022 reelection of Arizonia Senator Mark Kelley. (It is unclear how much, if any, of the gaps were plugged.).

But the border became a huge a political liability in the fall of 2023, The administration was sued by Texas, and in August of 2023 Biden lost in Federal Court - the ruling mandating that Biden's failure to spend the appropriated funds was illegal, contrary to Biden's GAO inventive reasoning.

Rather than appeal, Biden gave in and waived 26 different federal laws to plug similar gaps along the border in Texas’s Rio Grande Valley - a power he always had since 2020 but had refused to use. This would, apparently, consist of a miniscule 20 miles of added walls and/or barriers. (It is also unclear if, or how much, of that 20 miles were plugged).

Getting blowback from his own party, the Biden administration pleaded that that the money for the wall had been appropriated in 2019 before he took office, and its appropriation required the funding to be used and construction completed in 2023. Biden said he attempted to get the funding redirected, but Congress refused. In short, he tried to distance himself from the GAO opinion and his failure to appeal the August ruling.

"The money was appropriated for the border wall," Biden said. "I can't stop that." ( Yet he had stopped that for most of his administration).

However, because Congress could see he had no intention to complete the wall or to do more than fill gaps the 2024 Defense Appropriation Act required Biden to submit a plan of disposal of surplus, its purpose being to force the administration to restart the wall project in whole or if he refused to do so at least provide material to Texas.

After Texas and California got what they wanted, 40 percent was still left and 252 sq. feet of wall was sold for as little as 5 dollar each.

There are indisputable nuggets in the chronology:

1. Biden was against most or all of the wall in his Presidency. He successfully blocked its continuation for most of that time period, and intentionally made negligible progress toward the 500 plus mile goal.

2. Biden didn't sell off material and give-away prices to block wall construction, he first blocked the wall construction and then circumvented the 2024 intent to force him to build the wall, subsequently selling off material he knew he wouldn't want after his mostly successful roadblock.

3. The squabble over the characterizations of his actions are irrelevant. He did not "continue" the project for most or all of his Presidency. And when he claimed he was going to plug some small gaps, it was under the duress of elections, public preesure, and court orders.
 
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PS - I am unable to find any news items on what, if any, construction actually occurred in the Yuma "gaps" and the Rio Grande Valley "gaps". There are lots of stories on what he claimed he would do, almost nothing on what he actually did, afterwords if anything.
 
rahl said:
Nope. Wiki articles and hearsay.

So you can’t prove he lied. Thank you.
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Nope, the accounts of the Afghan villager who saved him and the people who actually were there….and found no signs of the dozens of dead Taliban fighters Luttrell claims the team killed.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Nope, the accounts of the Afghan villager who saved him and the people who actually were there….and found no signs of the dozens of dead Taliban fighters Luttrell claims the team killed.
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So you can’t prove he lied. Thank you.
 
rahl said:
You tried to cite wiki and got laughed at.

So you can’t prove he lied. Thank you.
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You squealing in fear and ignoring the multiple other sources provided makes the claim worthless.

You lacking the spine to face up to the presented facts can’t make them go away.
 
Tigerace117 said:
You squealing in fear and ignoring the multiple other sources provided makes the claim worthless.

You lacking the spine to face up to the presented facts can’t make them go away.
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So you can’t prove he lied. Thank you
 
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