Massive explosion on Crimea’s Kerch bridge

[EMNofSeattle]

Dugina wasn’t the target she was driving her fathers car waiting for him. Her blood is on her fathers hands.

Even if that is true, Dugin was not a uniformed soldier or any kind of armed combatant and it would be a war crime all the same

 

[phoenyx]

Russia invaded Crimea

That is certainly the narrative that the western mainstream media likes to promulgate. That being said, I and others believe the truth is quite different. An article from a reporter who decided to go ask Crimeans themselves as to what happened during the Crimean referendum that happened prior to Russia's annexation of Crimea, allowing Crimea to rejoin Russia:

Return to Russia: Crimeans Tell the Real Story of the 2014 Referendum and Their Lives Since

Eva Bartlett traveled to Crimea to see how people have fared since their country reunited with Russia and what the referendum was really like

www.mintpressnews.com

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Ask him about “Globohomo”. He shall tell you.

Globohomo is simply a shorthand term for corporate and governmental forces wanting to convert the entire world into replicas of the US/Western Europe. It’s undeniably an ideology, they believe only their form of liberal government and corporate business structures should exist world wide and have no respect for traditional cultures

 

[Ahlevah]

that’s not correct, the Ukranians claim ownership of Crimea, which is a federal subject of Russia

Crimea was part of the Ukrainian SSR during the latter part of the Soviet period. Although considered an autonomous region, Crimea’s most recent status prior to Putin’s illegal referendum and annexation in 2014 was it was integral part of Ukraine. That’s why only a handful of nations, including usual suspects like North Korea, Syria, and Venezuela, recognized the annexation, hence Russia’s claim that it’s Russian territory. Legally and officially at this point, Crimea is Ukrainian.

 

[Fledermaus]

That is certainly the narrative that the western mainstream media likes to promulgate.

It was an invasion.

 

[Schrott]

But probably not the truck. I like the idea right now of multiple remote boats parked close together under the bridge at night (under the lower portion to evade detection) and then detonated when the train passed.

More likely a shaped charge which hit the truck

 

[TomFitz]

Not really. This was a truck bomb attack meaning all the damage was distributed along the road surface of the bridge, and not focused on a weak point. It’s likely repairs to the road deck will take only a couple of days and the supporting structure is largely undamaged.

It may actually be the rail bridge that suffered more damage given the fire that started on a rail car carrying oil

You’re absolutely dreaming if you actually believe that the collapsed bridge deck of a road that large and far out in the water can be repaired in a couple of days. That’s just plain nonsense!

 

[phoenyx]

It was an invasion.

You've certainly stated your belief on this many times, and I'm fairly sure you've seen the same thing said many times, perhaps in your favourite mainstream media. This reminds me of something Hitler once said:

 

[Fledermaus]

You've certainly stated your belief on this many times, and I'm fairly sure you've seen the same thing said many times, perhaps in your favourite mainstream media. This reminds me of something Hitler once said:

Not my belief. The dictionary definition.

 

[ASHES]

More likely a shaped charge which hit the truck

I don't think the blast originated anywhere near the surface of the road. The entire blast wave hit the side of the truck, a shaped charge would be for something smaller like a tank, not a bridge and a train. I think this was just lots and lots of explosives in one place, which was to the right and below the westbound lanes. How they got there is the mystery.

 

[Fledermaus]

You’re absolutely dreaming if you actually believe that the collapsed bridge deck of a road that large and far out in the water can be repaired in a couple of days. That’s just plain nonsense!

But Moscow sez.....

 

[TomFitz]

But Moscow sez.....

Moscow? Or Tucker Carlson? Forget it, they’re the same!

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Your house is a subject of me. Hand over the keys.

If you can talk the Mrs into moving out of East LA I will happily surrender the keys and lease to you.

 

[Higgins86]

Even if that is true, Dugin was not a uniformed soldier or any kind of armed combatant and it would be a war crime all the same

He was an ultra nationalist, political ally to Putin and a huge supporter of the war. For all intents and purposes he is Russias Goebells and his late daughter became a mouthpiece of that ideology.
Your country is at war and it’s a war you started/provoked. Having her drive his car in such times is a massive oversight from him.
I don’t weep for either of them. I weep for the bodies Ukraine keep digging up with every mile of their advance.

 

[phoenyx]

Not my belief. The dictionary definition.

The wikipedia definition of invasion is rather ambiguous. According to Wikipedia, an invasion can either be conquering, liberating or re establishing control over a territory:

Invasion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Given this immense ambiguity, I think it's much better to use clearer terms, such as the fact that Crimeans had a referendum wherein the vast majority voted to rejoin Russia and then Russia accepted their request and annexed Crimea. A story similar to that of the Republic of Texas, only the Republic of Texas had not been part of the U.S. prior to the U.S. annexing it.

 

[BitterPill]

What on earth are you babling about? Do you even know the history of the region? The Russian empire took the areas in conflict between 1690s to 1790s. Before that, the areas were under Polish-Lithuanian control for centuries. Before that, it was the Golden Horde and others. Ukraine has never been independent before it emerged from the fall of the USSR.

The people in the Ukraine are a mix of Russia, Polish, Lithuanian, and even Austrian-Hungarian... which also owned part of what is Ukraine today.

So learn a bit of history eh?

You forgot the Tatars who built a ditch across the Isthmus of Perekop to defend against Russian encroachment which will now, ironically, be used to defend Russians from Ukrainian encroachment.

MAGA.

 

[Deuce]

suffice to say Putin has been clear on what constitutes a reason for a nuclear response.
Ignore it , just like ignoring NATO expansion and our part in the Maidan is what got us here
Carry On -what could go wrong?

What does this have to do with a bridge?

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Crimea was part of the Ukrainian SSR during the latter part of the Soviet period. Although considered an autonomous region, Crimea’s most recent status prior to Putin’s illegal referendum and annexation in 2014 was it was integral part of Ukraine. That’s why only a handful of nations, including usual suspects like North Korea, Syria, and Venezuela, recognized the annexation, hence Russia’s claim that it’s Russian territory. Legally and officially at this point, Crimea is Ukrainian.

Thats an immoral claim pushed by the US on the Ukranians behalf.

And hypocritical since the US recognizes Kosovo

 

[EMNofSeattle]

He was an ultra nationalist, political ally to Putin and a huge supporter of the war. For all intents and purposes he is Russias Goebells and his late daughter became a mouthpiece of that ideology.
Your country is at war and it’s a war you started/provoked. Having her drive his car in such times is a massive oversight from him.
I don’t weep for either of them. I weep for the bodies Ukraine keep digging up with every mile of their advance.

Even if all of this is true, the attempt was still a war crime

If Iraqi intelligence boinked Tony Blair you wouldn’t be justifying it with this rhetoric

 

[ASHES]

It does not look like the truck is the origin of the explosion in this video from a different angle either. There is no forward momentum from the after-blast debris, it all crosses perpendicular to the road. You can also see the blast wave wrapping around the back of the truck from its right to left side. Still waiting for Russia to correct.

 

[Rexedgar]

 

[Higgins86]

Even if all of this is true, the attempt was still a war crime

If Iraqi intelligence boinked Tony Blair you wouldn’t be justifying it with this rhetoric

Even if all of this is true, the attempt was still a war crime

If Iraqi intelligence boinked Tony Blair you wouldn’t be justifying it with this rhetoric

After the Chilcot report I’d welcome it

 

[Deuce]

That is certainly the narrative that the western mainstream media likes to promulgate. That being said, I and others believe the truth is quite different. An article from a reporter who decided to go ask Crimeans themselves as to what happened during the Crimean referendum that happened prior to Russia's annexation of Crimea, allowing Crimea to rejoin Russia:

Return to Russia: Crimeans Tell the Real Story of the 2014 Referendum and Their Lives Since

Eva Bartlett traveled to Crimea to see how people have fared since their country reunited with Russia and what the referendum was really like

www.mintpressnews.com

Some people believe the earth is flat. Others are merely pretending to believe it.

Take your propaganda to somewhere it will be better-accepted. Like Stormfront or Free Republic.

 

[Phys251]

It does not look like the truck is the origin of the explosion in this video from a different angle either. There is no forward momentum from the after-blast debris, it all crosses perpendicular to the road. You can also see the blast wave wrapping around the back of the truck from its right to left side. Still waiting for Russia to correct.

That angle really makes it look like there was a boat coming under the bridge. But that is speculation.

 

[ASHES]

That angle really makes it look like there was a boat coming under the bridge. But that is speculation.

I've seen those claims, there's certainly waves under the bridge before the explosion, but I have tried and failed to see a boat. They may or may not be related to the blast.