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Martin Luther King dream – did you include lockdowns and riots?

He did not resist

Yes, he most certainly did. But you didnt get to see THAT part. That part was brushed aside and ignored by the "woke", and the rioting criminals.
He was not armed.

Not necessary at all to be "armed" in order to run afoul of Police. Only requirement is that you act a DAMN FOOL. 💯

He begged for air!
If he begged for air...that means he was getting air. You cant beg for anything if you arent getting air.
 
Yes, he most certainly did. But you didnt get to see THAT part. That part was brushed aside and ignored by the "woke", and the rioting criminals.


Not necessary at all to be "armed" in order to run afoul of Police. Only requirement is that you act a DAMN FOOL. 💯


If he begged for air...that means he was getting air. You cant beg for anything if you arent getting air.

This has been debunked ad nauseum. George Floyd was murdered. Period.

If you believe otherwise, you're excusing police brutality.
 
Doesn't excuse George Floyd's murder one bit.

It doesnt excuse his murder, because there wasnt any murder. Doesnt remotely fit the legal definition of "murder", and never did.
"Murder" is if I say..."I think I'm going to go find a black man....and kill him." And then I do it. Thats "murder", with malice aforethought.
Then on top of that, they overcharged the guy, and then heaped on more punishment than any other person would have ever got, and he never committed murder to begin with.
All to appease a bunch of CRIMINALS that would have certainly set the nation ablaze if any other outcome had been reached.

Thats bullshit, thats not "justice". Go look at Ferguson. Go look at "George Floyd Square". -shaking my ****ing head-

Is THAT what you want the nation to look like? Thats where its headed. Just enjoy it, remember thats what you wanted for yourself and your family. You'll have "equality", EVERY place will be a shithole. Noice!
 
It doesnt excuse his murder, because there wasnt any murder.

You lie.

Doesnt remotely fit the legal definition of "murder", and never did.

Thankfully a jury did not see it that way. (y)

"Murder" is if I say..."I think I'm going to go find a black man....and kill him." And then I do it. Thats "murder", with malice aforethought.
Then on top of that, they overcharged the guy, and then heaped on more punishment than any other person would have ever got, and he never committed murder to begin with.
All to appease a bunch of CRIMINALS that would have certainly set the nation ablaze if any other outcome had been reached.

Thats bullshit, thats not "justice". Go look at Ferguson. Go look at "George Floyd Square". -shaking my ****ing head-

Is THAT what you want the nation to look like? Thats where its headed. Just enjoy it, remember thats what you wanted for yourself and your family. You'll have "equality", EVERY place will be a shithole. Noice!

Why do you support police brutality, PeacefulWarrior?
 
You lie.



Thankfully a jury did not see it that way. (y)



Why do you support police brutality, PeacefulWarrior?

Sorry, you're just boring me now. (not sorry)🙋‍♂️
 
King was all about civil rights. Which blacks have had for 60 years now.
But equality and civil rights has somehow morphed to: We have the right to attack cops, resist arrest, run over the general public, and riot and loot incessantly. Without any risk of being hurt or having the Police be mean to us.
We have a "right" to have the President of the United States intervene on our behalf if we are justly arrested and imprisoned in a foreign nation after violating their laws against drugs.
I certainly do not have that "right" Tiger. I wouldn't expect it, because I dont feel entitled. I'd never be dumb enough to carry contraband through any airport....but in RUSSIA FFS? That idiot has manure for her brains imo.
I certainly do not see King taking up the mantle for degenerate criminals like Geo Floyd and Rashard Brooks and Mike Brown the way you have Tiger, thats for sure. But then...Dr. King didnt have any White Shame that he would feel a need to mitigate? Heh heh heh. You betcha. ;)
Telling only one side is disingenuous. Police are mean to blacks, If George Floyd were white, do you think he would have died under the knee of Chavin. There are two sides to every story. Malcolm X and Stokely Charmicheal did not agree with MLK's non-violent approach. Do you think justice should be just for white people. No one should die because they passed a counterfit bill. That is the purpose of the constitution. Innocent until proven guilty. Do you think that if Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse would be free if they were not white. Suppose Zimmerman had killed a white boy instead of a black one? Do you think he would be free. What you are doing is what everyone else does. Black people don't get the benefit of the doubt. Do we really know what happened in the Mike Brown case? Why was his dead body allowed to lay there for hours, Why the grand jury instead of a murder trial? You saw how the police tried to cover up the Ahmaud Arbery and Brianna Taylor murders. That is what they are used to doing and usually get away with it. Yes, when people are angry, they sometimes act irrational, theat's human nature. Look at the degenarates would stormed the capital on Jan. 6. As for Britaney Griner, she had very little and it was for medical reasons. Bet you would complain if she were white? Would you have rather it had been Paul Whelan? BTW, how do you feel about Ashli Babbitt.
 
wo people spoke at a gathering that I attended this morning. One was a nursing student in Atlanta in April 1968. The other was at a gathering of consultants in Washington DC in April 1968. Both were told by well-meaning people to lock themselves in their rooms after the assassination and remain there for about 36 hours. This was “for their safety.“

Was Martin Luther King’s dream that there would be deadly rampages in his honor? Did Martin Luther King dream that “peaceful“ protesters would torch major US cities after George Floyd’s murder, and in other cities create “occupation zones” such as CHAZ and CHOP?

What riots occurred in response to the Holocaust, or Yitzhak Rabin’s assassination?

When Black people see a Black man murdered by officers they pay taxes to hire, train, arm, and certify as law enforcement officials, they should just shut and up dribble.

Got it.
 
Police are mean to blacks

Police are mean to criminals. White, black, or any other color. Get it straight fella.

Your post is 100% drivel. Pure nonsense really. Same tired talking points.
"Nothing bad would ever happen to a White person, only to the poor oppressed blacks." Utter hogwash.
Then you list black people who were hurt by police or some other way, and say "This would never have happened to a White person." Not even worth a response, since you didnt say a single thing of any real substance.

As far as Ashlii Babbitt: that thug should have complied with Police orders. bad things often happen if you do not. 🤷‍♂️
 
:ROFLMAO: 😅🤣😆😁
If you actually believe that, you are WOEFULLY ignorant of the facts of this case my confused friend.
Suggest you bone up on those, then try again.

George Floyd was a CAREER VIOLENT CRIMINAL, and I am not talking about traffic ticket type shit.
George Floyd invaded the homes of completely innocent civilians and terrorized them. George Floyd had a violent history of ASSAULTING POLICE OFFICERS.

He was trying to pass counterfeit money when a business owner called Police on him (felony). TWENTY YEARS IMPRISONMENT possible for using counterfeit money.

When Police came, Big Dumb George decided that he really didnt feel like being arrested that day.
The rest is history.
Bone up on your facts.

He terrorized a young woman in her own home and robbed her. "Never hurt anyone"....MY GOD MAN.
The only "crime" here, imo, is that a police officer is convicted for "murder" and sits in prison on account of this low life. THAT is the real crime here Fearandloathing.
Still no need to choke him to death.
 
When Black people see a Black man murdered by officers they pay taxes to hire, train, arm, and certify as law enforcement officials, they should just shut and up dribble.

Got it.

No need to capitalize "black". Its just an adjective.
Do you capitalize "White"? (I do.) :giggle:
 
Police are mean to criminals. White, black, or any other color. Get it straight fella.

Your post is 100% drivel. Pure nonsense really. Same tired talking points.
"Nothing bad would ever happen to a White person, only to the poor oppressed blacks." Utter hogwash.
Then you list black people who were hurt by police or some other way, and say "This would never have happened to a White person." Not even worth a response, since you didnt say a single thing of any real substance.

As far as Ashlii Babbitt: that thug should have complied with Police orders. bad things often happen if you do not. 🤷‍♂️
In other words, you don't want to debate my facts. You are dead set on looking at it on one side while there are two sides to every story. OK, I will accept your concession
 
Yes, he most certainly did. But you didnt get to see THAT part. That part was brushed aside and ignored by the "woke", and the rioting criminals.

Criminals, which most of the protesters were not.

Not necessary at all to be "armed" in order to run afoul of Police.

That's not a point of contention.

Only requirement is that you act a DAMN FOOL. 💯

People act like fools all the time. If we had it your way, officers could choke every suspected drunk driver to death.

If he begged for air...that means he was getting air. You cant beg for anything if you arent getting air.

What a ridiculously ignorant (putting it nicely) post. Even if someone's airway isn't 100% blocked, they can still suffer form insufficient oxygen, which can cause someone to lose consciousness. Moreover, the officer involved likely increased the force of the choke so that it eventually blocked the airways completely or nearly so. Compressions can also disrupt the vagus nerve's signals to the heart.
 
wo people spoke at a gathering that I attended this morning. One was a nursing student in Atlanta in April 1968. The other was at a gathering of consultants in Washington DC in April 1968. Both were told by well-meaning people to lock themselves in their rooms after the assassination and remain there for about 36 hours. This was “for their safety.“

Was Martin Luther King’s dream that there would be deadly rampages in his honor? Did Martin Luther King dream that “peaceful“ protesters would torch major US cities after George Floyd’s murder, and in other cities create “occupation zones” such as CHAZ and CHOP?

What riots occurred in response to the Holocaust, or Yitzhak Rabin’s assassination?
Tell us you're a racist without telling us you are a racist.
 
Jan 6th was a violent riot

Most of MLK activity were peaceful protests.
 
You are...seriously asking about riots after the holocaust? Or Rabin's assassination? HUH? That makes absolutely no sense. Are you trying to say that the chosen ones havent been getting all the pity and sympathy to which you feel they are entitled? I'm not understanding your point with that? 80 years and counting of pity party, and constant blind support not enough?
Every continent and nation lost millions of human beings during WWII....why is no one else getting an 80 year pity party? Another thing I do not understand. Well I do understand, much of it comes from media drubbing constantly in the US at least. And also religious mythology of course. 🤮 Anywho....
I'll take the bait, even though probably I should not. It is true that losses were widespread and grievous. But no other group was targeted for elimination. Hitler didn't want to exterminate Russians; he wanted their land. Japan didn't want to exterminate Chinese, though their occupation was brutal. Hitler had ordered museums built to memorialize an extinct group, the Jews. Our synagogue has one of the Torah scrolls readied for that museum. Both before and since there have been intense desires on the part of the general public of many countries. Until Hitler the rulers prevented annihilation. Hitler joined the festivities. This is not an "80 year pity party."

Martin Luther King would straight up VOMIT if he could see this abomination of pro criminal BLM running amok. At least they arent using Kings name as far as I know, but hell they might be. He'd vomit if he could see the way these young criminals are blasting each other in the streets too. It happens everywhere and to everyone, but nothing like it does in this particular demographic for some reason. I still say the single most important factor, BY FAR, is there are a LOT of offspring being born with no fathers. Over 70% actually. Into poverty, in the hood. No real "raising" at all, no instilling of wholesome values. Most of these kids dont really stand a chance at all. Its not so much THEIR fault, its a cycle of poverty, misery, crime and violence. The cycle has to be broken at some point, and it is not even moving in the correct direction at this time imo.
"Blame is better to give...than receive."
No argument here. I would have "liked" your post if this is exclusively what it contained. The "parents" of these children are breeding, not raising, children. To my previous point, the Jews did not destroy anything as a result of the Holocaust. Maybe Rabin's death was a bad example; I should have used Tree of Life as a better example.

President Barack Obama was the best role model we could have ever imagined for really ANYONE, but especially for blacks. Here is what you can accomplish with a LOT of hard work, drive, motivation. And of course some luck and good fortune too.
Great family man, raised his kids well, stayed married, didnt sell crack, didnt go out gang banging or carjacking. (at least I dont think so).
Barack Obama is an inspiring individual, he's one of my heroes really. Broken home. Father wasnt around. Mixed race so he was accepted by NO ONE. But he just used that speaking ability and his charisma. Take note people! White and black! And all others!
This is what you have to do to succeed, if you cant speak English and look like you just crawled out of the bush your options are going to be VERY limited for gainful employment and upward mobility. That message needs to be taken into the black community.
Trouble with Obama is that he didn't make your point, aside from the anti-Semitism. He did not preach to his own people the virtues of hard work and education, and refraining from "sell(ing) crack...gang banging or carjacking."

Its a message of "White people are doing this to you". Thats BS imo.
That apparently is the only message that resonates.

U.S. Congressman Byron Donalds, Thomas Sowell and Clarence Thomas are savaged by the black media for taking another position. Booker Washington's example is ignored.​

 
MLK declared that a riot was “the language of the unheard”, so no, I don’t think he would have been on his fainting couch like you are.
To the extent he said that you are right. No decent people should agree with that.
 
Trouble with Obama is that he didn't make your point, aside from the anti-Semitism.

What "antisemitism" would you be referring to JB? Cant recall any of that.
He did not preach to his own people the virtues of hard work and education, and refraining from "sell(ing) crack...gang banging or carjacking."

He most certainly did. He preached it to EVERYBODY, he didnt specifically say "blacks". But if I recall...when Obama hit the TV with a message of studying hard, staying in school, etc., the Right Wing Nut media lashed out in a rage that President Obama was trying to "indoctrinate" people BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is where you folks are at JB imo, just completely reactionary, against whatever the "enemy" (as you see it) is for. The Right doesnt really even have a platform anymore except "shmoooz the uberwealthy, and hate whatever any Democrat says or proposes."
Thats just not going to get it done JB, thats why your guys shit the bed on November 8th. Now this House majority is going to go right on and keep doing the same crap. Nothing of substance, all about trying to "get even" with folks who didn't kiss the Orange Anus. You'll be less popular in 2024 than you are now is what I see happening.
That apparently is the only message that resonates.

I dont agree with the way some folks refer to blacks such as those you mentioned as "Uncle Toms" etc. I respect any person that educates themselves and makes something of themselves. I can tolerate any political learning that is reason based, so I do not automatically dislike these guys.
Thanks for readin'.
 
If we had it your way, officers could choke every suspected drunk driver to death.

Not at all. We all make a mistake. If a person gets a DUI, and they dont act a DAMN FOOL during teh arrest, they'll be just fine.
But if you act a DAMN FOOL during a DUI arrest, like that Rayshard Brooks IDIOT did....then you might get your ticket punched. See? Its really not that complicated.
In other words, you don't want to debate my facts.

There were no "facts".
Just exactly as I said, you made a LOT of ignorant assumptions and proclamations, declaring that "This would never have happened to a White person!!" Thats utter bullshit, more Whites are killed by Police than blacks actually.
See, you throw out your baseless declarations about what would have not happened if they were White, LOL, but those sure arent "facts".
OK, I will accept your concession

There was no "concession", merely a dismissal of your unfounded and untrue OPINIONS, which you were presenting as "facts". No need to "debate" any of that.
Even if someone's airway isn't 100% blocked, they can still suffer form insufficient oxygen, which can cause someone to lose consciousness.

I think the oxygen to ol Georges brain was cut off a long long time before his ultimate demise, personally Multi. That fella just flat SUCKED when it came to making intelligent decisions.

I'm not going to have to live in this brave new world that you and the likes of BLM want to create for the nation, hell if I survive 2 more decades that would be more than I could hope for I think. Zeus knows its plenty screwed up now, and will be much more so by then, but I'll be checking out of here. I feel bad for the younger people in a lot of different ways, they're going to have a rough time. Global warming, pollution, lots more assholes by then. Lots of problems. They will be the ones that will reap the fruits of the misguided push to make sure that criminals are treated as just another profession. Hey, they've got to make a living too right? Why should THEY have to listen to Police? Police shouldn't be mean to anyone, even societies degenerate violent animals like George Floyd. You'll have that great "accomplishment". Awesome stuff.
I get it: you want a just and equitable society. Who doesnt? Thats great, I think 99% of us want that. But you have the misguided notion that the way you're going to get that is by allowing criminals, including black criminals (there are lots of White criminals too of course, but you dont see those criminals as "oppressed" the same way you see the black criminals), to run roughshod over law enforcement and the general public. Its already happening now. Its going to get WAY worse. Just remember: thats what you wanted.

The fact is, if George Floyd would have been White, you would have never heard of him. And you shouldn't have ever heard of him really IMO. If he was White it would have just been a moron that made too many bad life choices and his number finally came up. Nobody would care, Whites sure as hell would not have started nationwide rioting over a turd like that. Dont misunderstand me: if Floyd had merely cooperated, been cuffed, and got into the car the way he should've, I would be fine with that. Thats what he should have done. I dont enjoy seeing anyone hurt. But he didnt do that, and he got "extra attention" because he was a moron. Morons get extra attention Multi. Thats how it is. They demand extra attention. George LIVED for victimizing innocent people. And he was NO innocent victim. You got it EXACTLY backward imo. Good job.
 
Not at all. We all make a mistake. If a person gets a DUI, and they dont act a DAMN FOOL during teh arrest, they'll be just fine.
But if you act a DAMN FOOL during a DUI arrest, like that Rayshard Brooks IDIOT did....then you might get your ticket punched. See? Its really not that complicated.


There were no "facts".
Just exactly as I said, you made a LOT of ignorant assumptions and proclamations, declaring that "This would never have happened to a White person!!" Thats utter bullshit, more Whites are killed by Police than blacks actually.
See, you throw out your baseless declarations about what would have not happened if they were White, LOL, but those sure arent "facts".


There was no "concession", merely a dismissal of your unfounded and untrue OPINIONS, which you were presenting as "facts". No need to "debate" any of that.


I think the oxygen to ol Georges brain was cut off a long long time before his ultimate demise, personally Multi. That fella just flat SUCKED when it came to making intelligent decisions.

I'm not going to have to live in this brave new world that you and the likes of BLM want to create for the nation, hell if I survive 2 more decades that would be more than I could hope for I think. Zeus knows its plenty screwed up now, and will be much more so by then, but I'll be checking out of here. I feel bad for the younger people in a lot of different ways, they're going to have a rough time. Global warming, pollution, lots more assholes by then. Lots of problems. They will be the ones that will reap the fruits of the misguided push to make sure that criminals are treated as just another profession. Hey, they've got to make a living too right? Why should THEY have to listen to Police? Police shouldn't be mean to anyone, even societies degenerate violent animals like George Floyd. You'll have that great "accomplishment". Awesome stuff.
I get it: you want a just and equitable society. Who doesnt? Thats great, I think 99% of us want that. But you have the misguided notion that the way you're going to get that is by allowing criminals, including black criminals (there are lots of White criminals too of course, but you dont see those criminals as "oppressed" the same way you see the black criminals), to run roughshod over law enforcement and the general public. Its already happening now. Its going to get WAY worse. Just remember: thats what you wanted.

The fact is, if George Floyd would have been White, you would have never heard of him. And you shouldn't have ever heard of him really IMO. If he was White it would have just been a moron that made too many bad life choices and his number finally came up. Nobody would care, Whites sure as hell would not have started nationwide rioting over a turd like that. Dont misunderstand me: if Floyd had merely cooperated, been cuffed, and got into the car the way he should've, I would be fine with that. Thats what he should have done. I dont enjoy seeing anyone hurt. But he didnt do that, and he got "extra attention" because he was a moron. Morons get extra attention Multi. Thats how it is. They demand extra attention. George LIVED for victimizing innocent people. And he was NO innocent victim. You got it EXACTLY backward imo. Good job.

I'm afeard of the Blacks.

We get it.
 
I'm afeard of the Blacks.

We get it.


If that makes you feel good, go for it I dont give a crap.
I wont kiss the ass of White criminals either.
The further erosion of decent, sane, and fairly safe society is what concerns me. Not real tough to read the writing on the wall at this point, IMO its pretty much beyond repair and people getting loonier and DUMBER by the day. And those fatherless and neglected kids just continue to come. Hey, it is what it is Multi.
Thank you for your very well reasoned and intelligent reply. :rolleyes:
 
wo people spoke at a gathering that I attended this morning. One was a nursing student in Atlanta in April 1968. The other was at a gathering of consultants in Washington DC in April 1968. Both were told by well-meaning people to lock themselves in their rooms after the assassination and remain there for about 36 hours. This was “for their safety.“

Was Martin Luther King’s dream that there would be deadly rampages in his honor? Did Martin Luther King dream that “peaceful“ protesters would torch major US cities after George Floyd’s murder, and in other cities create “occupation zones” such as CHAZ and CHOP?

What riots occurred in response to the Holocaust, or Yitzhak Rabin’s assassination?
100% conflation/deflection. 0% point.
 
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