Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman [W:273, 345]

[Philly Dilly]

This as a result of the natural design which established the physiological standard regarding human sexuality. In the first place.

Wherein Nature provided two distinct, but complimenting genders, each respectively design to join with the other, not only physically, but emotionally; which defines marriage through that default standard. Providing that; as noted in the title of this thread: Marriage is the joining of two distinct bodies, into one sustainable body... which is essential to the propagation of the species and as the nucleus, is essential to the viability of nothing less than civilization itself.

Even if this natural morality does not govern our secular law. That means our law against human nature

 

[Redress]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

This as a result of the natural design which established the physiological standard regarding human sexuality. In the first place.

Wherein Nature provided two distinct, but complimenting genders, each respectively design to join with the other, not only physically, but emotionally; which defines marriage through that default standard. Providing that; as noted in the title of this thread: Marriage is the joining of two distinct bodies, into one sustainable body... which is essential to the propagation of the species and as the nucleus, is essential to the viability of nothing less than civilization itself.

Even if this natural morality does not govern our secular law. That means our law against human nature

Marriage is not a "natural" institution, it is an artificial manmade construct. So much for that oh so original argument...

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

This as a result of the natural design which established the physiological standard regarding human sexuality. In the first place.

Wherein Nature provided two distinct, but complimenting genders, each respectively design to join with the other, not only physically, but emotionally; which defines marriage through that default standard. Providing that; as noted in the title of this thread: Marriage is the joining of two distinct bodies, into one sustainable body... which is essential to the propagation of the species and as the nucleus, is essential to the viability of nothing less than civilization itself.

Even if this natural morality does not govern our secular law. That means our law against human nature

Redress already pointed out that marriage is not natural. Animals do not get married. It's something we invented, and as such we can change it. The bible defines marriage as polygamy, rapist & rape-victim, soldier and war-bride, and many other abhorrent definitions that we no longer accept. 99.9% of human creations are unnatural. The computer you're using right now to embarrass yourself is not natural. Homosexuality on the other hand is extremely natural, as it can be found in most species of animals.

In short, you're welcome to whatever silly opinion you have, but nobody cares what your imaginary friend has to say on the matter, and you don't have a right to force your views or religion on anyone else.

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

This as a result of the natural design which established the physiological standard regarding human sexuality. In the first place.

Wherein Nature provided two distinct, but complimenting genders, each respectively design to join with the other, not only physically, but emotionally; which defines marriage through that default standard. Providing that; as noted in the title of this thread: Marriage is the joining of two distinct bodies, into one sustainable body... which is essential to the propagation of the species and as the nucleus, is essential to the viability of nothing less than civilization itself.

So gays being in a relationship is fine, but once they have a document from the government, it's the end of civilisation?

 

[WCH]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

"those whom God hath joined together let no man put asunder"

If one wants to look at animals as an example some species mate for life. How
natural is that?

 

[WCH]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

Redress already pointed out that marriage is not natural. Animals do not get married. It's something we invented, and as such we can change it. The bible defines marriage as polygamy, rapist & rape-victim, soldier and war-bride, and many other abhorrent definitions that we no longer accept. 99.9% of human creations are unnatural. The computer you're using right now to embarrass yourself is not natural. Homosexuality on the other hand is extremely natural, as it can be found in most species of animals.

In short, you're welcome to whatever silly opinion you have, but nobody cares what your imaginary friend has to say on the matter, and you don't have a right to force your views or religion on anyone else.

You obviously need some study time.

What is marriage, according to the Bible? | TGC

 

[Stopandthink]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

Redress already pointed out that marriage is not natural. Animals do not get married. It's something we invented, and as such we can change it. The bible defines marriage as polygamy, rapist & rape-victim, soldier and war-bride, and many other abhorrent definitions that we no longer accept. 99.9% of human creations are unnatural. The computer you're using right now to embarrass yourself is not natural. Homosexuality on the other hand is extremely natural, as it can be found in most species of animals.

In short, you're welcome to whatever silly opinion you have, but nobody cares what your imaginary friend has to say on the matter, and you don't have a right to force your views or religion on anyone else.

Polygamy and rape is very natural also

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

This as a result of the natural design which established the physiological standard regarding human sexuality. In the first place.

Wherein Nature provided two distinct, but complimenting genders, each respectively design to join with the other, not only physically, but emotionally; which defines marriage through that default standard. Providing that; as noted in the title of this thread: Marriage is the joining of two distinct bodies, into one sustainable body... which is essential to the propagation of the species and as the nucleus, is essential to the viability of nothing less than civilization itself.

Even if this natural morality does not govern our secular law. That means our law against human nature

For future reference the appeal to nature is a well-worn, hand-tooled, time-honored, and classic logical fallacy.

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=logical fallacies nature

 

[distraff]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

This as a result of the natural design which established the physiological standard regarding human sexuality. In the first place.

Wherein Nature provided two distinct, but complimenting genders, each respectively design to join with the other, not only physically, but emotionally; which defines marriage through that default standard. Providing that; as noted in the title of this thread: Marriage is the joining of two distinct bodies, into one sustainable body... which is essential to the propagation of the species and as the nucleus, is essential to the viability of nothing less than civilization itself.

Even if this natural morality does not govern our secular law. That means our law against human nature

What you are talking about is reproduction. Reproduction does require a man and a woman and is required for civilization to survive. Marriage is not the same as reproduction.

 

[NonConformer]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

Well the issue is: what is GOVERNMENT'S role in this thing called "marriage"? Should government endorse same-sex marriage, or should government only endorse opposite-sex marriage?

How about: let's get the government OUT of the marriage business. "Marriage" is all about love, sex, and romance, and I don't see anything in the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the history books, or the Bible saying that's a governmental responsibility.

If two (or more) people want to sign a contract covering things like inheritance, medical decisions, etc, that's fine, and yes the judicial branch of government will enforce that contract. But please keep the word "marriage" out of it, and we all can avoid these useless conflicts.

 

[HowardBThiname]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

You obviously need some study time.

What is marriage, according to the Bible? | TGC

What the heck? Abraham and Sarah were childless into old age and Sarah sent her maid so Abraham could impregnate her. That's the father of your religion who couldn't keep his dick under his garments. Jacob married Leah and Rachel, both, sisters, and Rachel sent her maid for Jacob to impregnate as well.

Maybe you need a little study - because the bible is full of marriage not just meaning one man and one woman.

 

[Philly Dilly]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

So gays being in a relationship is fine, but once they have a document from the government, it's the end of civilisation?

not fine

 

[KLATTU]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

The Bible is not the law of the land. IF you are a citizen of this country , the law of the land is what matters, not the Bible. If you wan to live by the Bible, fine, don't get married to somebody of the same sex.
Nobody is compelling you to do that

 

[Hicup]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

Marriage is not a "natural" institution, it is an artificial manmade construct. So much for that oh so original argument...

When one uses the standard that everything is natural, or normal, then nothing is.


Tim-

 

[WCH]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

What the heck? Abraham and Sarah were childless into old age and Sarah sent her maid so Abraham could impregnate her. That's the father of your religion who couldn't keep his dick under his garments. Jacob married Leah and Rachel, both, sisters, and Rachel sent her maid for Jacob to impregnate as well.

Maybe you need a little study - because the bible is full of marriage not just meaning one man and one woman.

God made Sara fertiile.

That was about survival of the bloodline not being promiscuous.

 

[GunFora]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

I agree with the thread title. "Gay marriage" is an oxymoron. There is no such thing. I see no reason to redefine the word "marriage" to appease a tiny percentage of the population.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

This as a result of the natural design which established the physiological standard regarding human sexuality. In the first place.

Wherein Nature provided two distinct, but complimenting genders, each respectively design to join with the other, not only physically, but emotionally; which defines marriage through that default standard. Providing that; as noted in the title of this thread: Marriage is the joining of two distinct bodies, into one sustainable body... which is essential to the propagation of the species and as the nucleus, is essential to the viability of nothing less than civilization itself.

Even if this natural morality does not govern our secular law. That means our law against human nature

Legal marriage has nothing to do with natural design, propagation of the species nor is legal marriage of same sex couples against human nature . . . 2 huge fails that makes the entire post fail. LMAO
facts win again.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

Well the issue is: what is GOVERNMENT'S role in this thing called "marriage"? Should government endorse same-sex marriage, or should government only endorse opposite-sex marriage?

How about: let's get the government OUT of the marriage business. "Marriage" is all about love, sex, and romance, and I don't see anything in the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the history books, or the Bible saying that's a governmental responsibility.

If two (or more) people want to sign a contract covering things like inheritance, medical decisions, etc, that's fine, and yes the judicial branch of government will enforce that contract. But please keep the word "marriage" out of it, and we all can avoid these useless conflicts.

there is no REAL conflict . . the ones that have it are making it up . . actually your post above makes some things up or at least says things or wants things that are already the way it is
government doesnt endorse any marriage, it simply protects peoples rights (ie the contract)
Legal marriage is a contract so that is already done and you need government involved in contracts

if a person wants religious or spiritual marriage they are 100% free to have one and that already has nothing to do with the government

so like i said, there is no conflict unless one is made up

 

[roughdraft274]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

You obviously need some study time.

What is marriage, according to the Bible? | TGC

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 - If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Keep telling us about how sacred marriage was in the bible. :roll:

 

[Deuce]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

Well the issue is: what is GOVERNMENT'S role in this thing called "marriage"? Should government endorse same-sex marriage, or should government only endorse opposite-sex marriage?

How about: let's get the government OUT of the marriage business. "Marriage" is all about love, sex, and romance, and I don't see anything in the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the history books, or the Bible saying that's a governmental responsibility.

If two (or more) people want to sign a contract covering things like inheritance, medical decisions, etc, that's fine, and yes the judicial branch of government will enforce that contract. But please keep the word "marriage" out of it, and we all can avoid these useless conflicts.

There's no reason to alter the system. You want all the same contracts available, why do you care about the name? We have a contract that handles all those standard inheritance, child custody, or medical issues already, and that contract is already enforced by the judicial branch. It's called a marriage contract.

 

[HowardBThiname]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

God made Sara fertiile.

That was about survival of the bloodline not being promiscuous.

Bologna.

Abraham made Sarah claim to be his sister to save his own sorry skin when they went to Egypt, because she was pretty and he thought the Egyptians would kill him to get his wife. Sarah had to lie and marry the Pharoah. So, there you have Abraham, the father of your religion, basically prostituting his own wife.

Bottom line - marriage was not strictly one man and one woman back then. There is no biblical defense of claiming it should be so today.

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

not fine

Well it can't be that bad if it's not going to cause the end of civilisation without government approval.

Can you describe for me, in detail, with supporting evidence, the exact process that destroys civilisation once the government allows people of the same sex to enter into a contract about kinship and inheritance?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

This as a result of the natural design which established the physiological standard regarding human sexuality. In the first place.

Wherein Nature provided two distinct, but complimenting genders, each respectively design to join with the other, not only physically, but emotionally; which defines marriage through that default standard. Providing that; as noted in the title of this thread: Marriage is the joining of two distinct bodies, into one sustainable body... which is essential to the propagation of the species and as the nucleus, is essential to the viability of nothing less than civilization itself.

Even if this natural morality does not govern our secular law. That means our law against human nature

You do realize, don't you, that pointing out the plain, obvious truth about male, female, the difference between them, and the relationship between them, brands you as a hateful, homophobic/transphobic bigot, no better than a cross-burning, nigger-lynching Klansman, right? At least a few other participants will even inform you that you are directly responsible for violence and suicide against those who are “different”.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

Redress already pointed out that marriage is not natural. Animals do not get married. It's something we invented, and as such we can change it. The bible defines marriage as polygamy, rapist & rape-victim, soldier and war-bride, and many other abhorrent definitions that we no longer accept

I'll point out that every form that marriage is depicted in the Bible—including forms that we now consider unacceptable—is between a man and a woman. There is not anywhere in the Bible, any instance of a “marriage” between two men or between two women, and nothing that even hints at that as a reasonable concept. The Bible is very clear about sexual intimacy between two of the same sex being abominable and unacceptable.

 

[beefheart]

Re: Marriage Is the Joining of One Man and One Woman

This as a result of the natural design which established the physiological standard regarding human sexuality. In the first place.

Wherein Nature provided two distinct, but complimenting genders, each respectively design to join with the other, not only physically, but emotionally; which defines marriage through that default standard. Providing that; as noted in the title of this thread: Marriage is the joining of two distinct bodies, into one sustainable body... which is essential to the propagation of the species and as the nucleus, is essential to the viability of nothing less than civilization itself.

Even if this natural morality does not govern our secular law. That means our law against human nature

No it isn't, get over it.