Manchin's voting rights bill

[poweRob]

So here's the low down. There were a couple voting rights bills in the works and Manchin said he wouldn't vote for them. Strong voting bills. So his compromise was to take one of the bills, gut it the way he likes it because he said we need to "compromise" with republicans and he could get 10 republicans on board to get it past the filibuster and on the floor for debate. The results on his bill... not a damn single republican. Not one. Time to kill the filibuster. Well past time.

All eyes on Manchin after Republicans again block voting rights legislation​

Democrats’ months-long drive for muscular new federal voting rights legislation hit a new roadblock Wednesday, with options for progress dwindling as Senate Republicans remained united in blocking debate on the issue.​

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Outwardly, key lawmakers and advocates have continued to elevate the political stakes, calling federal legislation essential to protecting American democracy from the efforts of Republican state legislatures and election officials to restrict voting access following former president Donald Trump’s false claims of rampant fraud in the 2020 presidential election.​

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“If there’s anything worthy of the Senate’s attention, if there’s any issue that merits debate on this floor, it’s protecting our democracy from the forces that are trying to unravel it from the inside out,” Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday.​

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Manchin made it seem like he's just trying to find "common ground" and "bipartisanship". He's just making excuses. Well, he's all out of excuses now. Time for him to spin some new lies.

 

[bongsaway]

So here's the low down. There were a couple voting rights bills in the works and Manchin said he wouldn't vote for them. Strong voting bills. So his compromise was to take one of the bills, gut it the way he likes it because he said we need to "compromise" with republicans and he could get 10 republicans on board to get it past the filibuster and on the floor for debate. The results on his bill... not a damn single republican. Not one. Time to kill the filibuster. Well past time.

All eyes on Manchin after Republicans again block voting rights legislation​

Democrats’ months-long drive for muscular new federal voting rights legislation hit a new roadblock Wednesday, with options for progress dwindling as Senate Republicans remained united in blocking debate on the issue.​

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Outwardly, key lawmakers and advocates have continued to elevate the political stakes, calling federal legislation essential to protecting American democracy from the efforts of Republican state legislatures and election officials to restrict voting access following former president Donald Trump’s false claims of rampant fraud in the 2020 presidential election.​

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“If there’s anything worthy of the Senate’s attention, if there’s any issue that merits debate on this floor, it’s protecting our democracy from the forces that are trying to unravel it from the inside out,” Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday.​

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Manchin made it seem like he's just trying to find "common ground" and "bipartisanship". He's just making excuses. Well, he's all out of excuses now. Time for him to spin some new lies.

The R's have blocked even talking about the issue of voting rights.
Common ground and bipartisanship with the republicans? Who is kidding who mr. manchin? I am really starting to think all you are doing is protecting your own interests above the interests of your constituents.

 

[Integrityrespec]

So here's the low down. There were a couple voting rights bills in the works and Manchin said he wouldn't vote for them. Strong voting bills. So his compromise was to take one of the bills, gut it the way he likes it because he said we need to "compromise" with republicans and he could get 10 republicans on board to get it past the filibuster and on the floor for debate. The results on his bill... not a damn single republican. Not one. Time to kill the filibuster. Well past time.

All eyes on Manchin after Republicans again block voting rights legislation​

Democrats’ months-long drive for muscular new federal voting rights legislation hit a new roadblock Wednesday, with options for progress dwindling as Senate Republicans remained united in blocking debate on the issue.​

​

Outwardly, key lawmakers and advocates have continued to elevate the political stakes, calling federal legislation essential to protecting American democracy from the efforts of Republican state legislatures and election officials to restrict voting access following former president Donald Trump’s false claims of rampant fraud in the 2020 presidential election.​

​

“If there’s anything worthy of the Senate’s attention, if there’s any issue that merits debate on this floor, it’s protecting our democracy from the forces that are trying to unravel it from the inside out,” Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday.​

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Manchin made it seem like he's just trying to find "common ground" and "bipartisanship". He's just making excuses. Well, he's all out of excuses now. Time for him to spin some new lies.

Have you read the voting rights bills? I suspect there are plenty of things in the bill that give Manchin reason to not vote as a democrat clone.

 

[Blue Dog]

The filibuster is nothing less than an obstructionist tool for the party in the minority. Elections are supposed to have consequences..

 

[phoenix2020]

I've no issue with him making the effort to try and push a compromise bill - that is good governance in my book. Props to him for trying with a specific proposal which is worlds better than Sinema's "I don't like this but I'm not going to tell you why nor suggest an alternative" do-nothings. Now that his GOP colleagues have made it clear they're not interested in any voting rights legislation, Manchin should have the support of many independents in pushing a bill forward even if it is more left-leaning than otherwise would have been desirable since (a) they tried and (b) the GOP has not proposed any legislation beyond tax cuts and restrictions to abortion anyway.

 

[Integrityrespec]

I've no issue with him making the effort to try and push a compromise bill - that is good governance in my book. Props to him for trying with a specific proposal which is worlds better than Sinema's "I don't like this but I'm not going to tell you why nor suggest an alternative" do-nothings. Now that his GOP colleagues have made it clear they're not interested in any voting rights legislation, Manchin should have the support of many independents in pushing a bill forward even if it is more left-leaning than otherwise would have been desirable since (a) they tried and (b) the GOP has not proposed any legislation beyond tax cuts and restrictions to abortion anyway.

The system is set to promote compromise and good governance, not one party rule.

 

[phoenix2020]

The system is set to promote compromise and good governance, not one party rule.

Agreed fully. Here's hoping that with time, the GOP eventually decides to agree because I'm sure there are some people in the GOP with great ideas waiting to be heard. They're just buried by politicians in the party who are interested only in absolute power and zero-sum politics aka "I can't win unless you lose" thinking. So long as the GOP practices zero-sum, only-our-party governance, the system will be ineffective--or the population and government will continue drifting leftward as more and more people get tired of a party that obstructs everything and proposes little.

 

[ttwtt78640]

The filibuster is nothing less than an obstructionist tool for the party in the minority. Elections are supposed to have consequences..

Major federal policy changes are supposed to have better than mere VP tie breaker support in the US Senate. There are more republicants in the US Senate than demorats.

 

[Bullseye]

So here's the low down. There were a couple voting rights bills in the works and Manchin said he wouldn't vote for them. Strong voting bills. So his compromise was to take one of the bills, gut it the way he likes it because he said we need to "compromise" with republicans and he could get 10 republicans on board to get it past the filibuster and on the floor for debate. The results on his bill... not a damn single republican. Not one. Time to kill the filibuster. Well past time.

All eyes on Manchin after Republicans again block voting rights legislation​

Democrats’ months-long drive for muscular new federal voting rights legislation hit a new roadblock Wednesday, with options for progress dwindling as Senate Republicans remained united in blocking debate on the issue.​

​

Outwardly, key lawmakers and advocates have continued to elevate the political stakes, calling federal legislation essential to protecting American democracy from the efforts of Republican state legislatures and election officials to restrict voting access following former president Donald Trump’s false claims of rampant fraud in the 2020 presidential election.​

​

“If there’s anything worthy of the Senate’s attention, if there’s any issue that merits debate on this floor, it’s protecting our democracy from the forces that are trying to unravel it from the inside out,” Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday.​

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Manchin made it seem like he's just trying to find "common ground" and "bipartisanship". He's just making excuses. Well, he's all out of excuses now. Time for him to spin some new lies.

"strong voting bill" and Congress ae mutually exclusive entities. Constitution puts election responsibilities on the states.

 

[ttwtt78640]

"strong voting bill" and Congress ae mutually exclusive entities. Constitution puts election responsibilities on the states.

Yep, but allows congress to override them should they choose to do so. It also specifically gave that power only to the state’s legislatures, but the SCOTUS refused to address that ‘originalist’ language since apparently everyone lacks ‘standing’ to have that addressed.

 

[Old 'N Chill]

Who is kidding who mr. manchin? I am really starting to think all you are doing is protecting your own interests above the interests of your constituents.

Putting himself over country and party, seem to be the trend lately with republicans, and obviously some democrats too. Sickening really, won't even discuss voting rights in America and preserving our democracy.

 

[poweRob]

Have you read the voting rights bills? I suspect there are plenty of things in the bill that give Manchin reason to not vote as a democrat clone.

The transparency of dark money donors.

 

[poweRob]

The R's have blocked even talking about the issue of voting rights.
Common ground and bipartisanship with the republicans? Who is kidding who mr. manchin? I am really starting to think all you are doing is protecting your own interests above the interests of your constituents.

You can't ever expect to reach a compromise or "Common Ground" with intentionally contrarian trolls. Like I said before, Republicans don't know where they stand on anytihng until a liberal speaks first.

 

[CaughtInThe]

The R's have blocked even talking about the issue of voting rights.

Yep

That's critical for them.

 

[bongsaway]

You can't ever expect to reach a compromise or "Common Ground" with intentionally contrarian trolls. Like I said before, Republicans don't know where they stand on anytihng until a liberal speaks first.

The gop showed us that when obama was president. Their leadership has been conditioning the base for decades to hate the dems and government since Nixon and reagan only made it worse. I have this idea of politics in washington. When the dems are in control, they get to the trough first, but they give back half of what they steal. When the R's are in control, they get to the trough first and keep everything they steal. Republicans don't govern, they rule when they are in power. They don't care what their base of the country wants, they are out for the elite with money.

Just saying no does not help to govern in america.

 

[Blue Dog]

This is the Republican stratagem. Why would the GOP compromise on ANY legislation that benefits the Biden Administration?

Rhetorical question…

 

[ttwtt78640]

This is the Republican stratagem. Why would the GOP compromise on ANY legislation that benefits the Biden Administration?

Rhetorical question…

Why would someone representing a state decide to vote to allow the federal government override their state’s voting laws? Those who lean conservative (are supposed to) favor state’s rights. Manchin represents a fairly conservative state.

 

[Blue Dog]

Why would someone representing a state decide to vote to allow the federal government override their state’s voting laws? Those who lean conservative (are supposed to) favor state’s rights. Manchin represents a fairly conservative state.

No argument from me, but it doesn’t change the point being made.

 

[BikesAreLife]

He knows there will not be 10 GOP votes but its good to get their obstruction on the record against his proposal. Its more ammo for filibuster reform.

 

[SoCal]

The system is set to promote compromise and good governance, not one party rule.

Read some history, the system was not set to use a filibuster to impede compromise and stop good governance...

 

[HangLow]

 

[ttwtt78640]

N le

The lesson that Manchin should have learned is many states do not wish to cede their power to make election laws to the federal government.