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Man plotted to kill and eat children, feds say

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(CNN) -- A Boston-area man, who was planning to kidnap children, lock them in a basement dungeon, rape and eat them, should be imprisoned for at least 27 years, federal authorities said in court documents filed this week.
The man, Geoffrey Portway, 40, pleaded guilty in May to distribution and possession of child pornography and solicitation to commit a crime of violence, according to court documents

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His home in Worcester was searched last year and authorities found tens of thousands of computer images and videos of child pornography, 4,500 exchanges of child pornography between Portway and the people he chatted with online. The images included children being cooked and prepared to be eaten, court documents said.

Authorities also found a locked basement, court documents show, that contained a child-sized coffin, a steel cage, a steel topped table, two freezers, disposable scalpels, butchering kits and castration tools.
Online chats, seized by police, showed Portway call his basement a "dungeon" where he intended to "keep kidnapped children while he sexually abused them and as a place to eventually murder and cannibalize the children."

Two other men who chatted with Portway have already been convicted.

One was a puppeteer who, authorities say, plotted with Portway to kidnap children the puppeteer knew from his work at a local Florida church.
Man plotted to kill and eat children, feds say - CNN.com

Sometimes there are stories that just stun me and this is one of them. Another example of a vile person (and the other two convicted already) and what dangers can await children out in the world. Truly sickening if you ask me.
 

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Left unsaid in this story is how this internet chatting lead to federal charges. Are we actually paying federal agents to monitor (participate in?) internet chat rooms? It is no wonder that we "lack resources" to locate and deport illegal aliens if we assign federal LEO's to chat on the internet.
 

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Left unsaid in this story is how this internet chatting lead to federal charges. Are we actually paying federal agents to monitor (participate in?) internet chat rooms? It is no wonder that we "lack resources" to locate and deport illegal aliens if we assign federal LEO's to chat on the internet.
So you would rather the feds not spend time trying to stop monsters like this, but instead keep an eye on Julio at the Home Depot? You're kidding right?
 

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Left unsaid in this story is how this internet chatting lead to federal charges. Are we actually paying federal agents to monitor (participate in?) internet chat rooms? It is no wonder that we "lack resources" to locate and deport illegal aliens if we assign federal LEO's to chat on the internet.
Good point!

It's a shame the feds are wasting precious resources going after law abiding citizens who want to do nothing more than merely capture, torture, kill, roast and eat young children
 

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So you would rather the feds not spend time trying to stop monsters like this, but instead keep an eye on Julio at the Home Depot? You're kidding right?
How many hours per monster identified does this "secret" snooping take? This is news because it is very, very, very rare, not because it happens all of the time. We could ignore all crimes below cannabalism and murder too, yet that makes little sense. Having laws that are not even attempted to be enforced is simply insane. Do you realize that we have 5K ICE field agents, a force the size of the Boston, MA and Baltimore, MD police forces combined that is assigned to patrol the entire USA?
 
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How many hours per monster identified does this "secret" snooping take? This is news because it is very, very, very rare, not because it happens all of the time. We could ignore all crimes below canabalism and murder too, yet that makes little sense. Having laws that are not even attempted to be enforced is simply insane. Do you realize that we have 5K ICE field agents, a force the size of the Boston, MA and Baltimore, MD police forces combined that is assigned to patrol the entire USA?
Yet again, the article doesn't list how many man hours were put into this, so your assumption that it is somehow taking from catching Julio at the Home Depot is just your assumption.

Again, I'd rather the feds do this and catch real monsters especially if they are going across state lines.

I'm sure if your daughter or son was eventually killed by this maniac, you would be happy to know that 10 border crossings were stopped instead right?
 

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How many hours per monster identified does this "secret" snooping take? This is news because it is very, very, very rare, not because it happens all of the time. We could ignore all crimes below canabalism and murder too, yet that makes little sense. Having laws that are not even attempted to be enforced is simply insane. Do you realize that we have 5K ICE field agents, a force the size of the Boston, MA and Baltimore, MD police forces combined that is assigned to patrol the entire USA?
Another good point!

Because walking past an imaginary line causes far more damage than abusing children.
 

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Good point!

It's a shame the feds are wasting precious resources going after law abiding citizens who want to do nothing more than merely capture, torture, kill, roast and eat young children
OK, please show me how many such "monsters" are caught each year and how many federal man hours, per potential cannibal caught, are expended. This seems to be yet more justification for federal internet patrols, a really nice job if you can get it.
 

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OK, please show me how many such "monsters" are caught each year and how many federal man hours, per cannibal caught, are expended. This seems to be yet more justification for federal internet patrols, a really nice job if you can get it.
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OK, please show me how many such "monsters" are caught each year and how many federal man hours, per potential cannibal caught, are expended. This seems to be yet more justification for federal internet patrols, a really nice job if you can get it.
As soon as you show us where that information is readily accessible I will. Until then, I'm quite happy they caught these maniacs and I support them catching other maniacs as well. As soon as some border crosses go into this realm of evil, I support the feds going after them as well. However, border crossings on their own are a lower priority for me than some maniacs actively planning to kidnap, torture, sexually abuse, and then eat children. Sorry, guess my priorities are different than yours.
 

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Yet again, the article doesn't list how many man hours were put into this, so your assumption that it is somehow taking from catching Julio at the Home Depot is just your assumption.

Again, I'd rather the feds do this and catch real monsters especially if they are going across state lines.

I'm sure if your daughter or son was eventually killed by this maniac, you would be happy to know that 10 border crossings were stopped instead right?
The "victim" count for this "monster" stands at zero, the potential victim count is naturally unlimited. This sounds a lot like the yellowcake sting that "saved America from a terrorist plot" that actually never existed until created on the internet by our agents. This is much like the gun control logic, we must get rid of all guns to keep 2% of the population, known to be dangerous yet allowed to walk freely among us, from having "easy access" to guns.
 

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The "victim" count for this "monster" stands at zero, the potential victim count is naturally unlimited. This sounds a lot like the yellowcake sting that "saved America from a terrorist plot" that actually never existed until created on the internet by our agents. This is much like the gun control logic, we must get rid of all guns to keep 2% of the population, known to be dangerous yet allowed to walk freely among us, from having "easy access" to guns.
Another good point!

The feds should not have acted until after the law abiding citizen had the chance to actually eat the children...

...and the time to digest them
 

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Another good point!

Because walking past an imaginary line causes far more damage than abusing children.
No illegal aliens commit crimes agianst children? Why have any border patrol or ICE agents at all? Let's convert them to chatroom monitors immediately. Child porn is the real threat to the U.S. the rest of DHS is dealing with minor stuff.
 

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No illegal aliens commit crimes agianst children? Why have any border patrol or ICE agents at all? Let's convert them to chatroom monitors immediately. Child porn is the real threat to the U.S. the rest of DHS is dealing with minor stuff.
How many undocumented residents have eaten children? Please post the #'s
 

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This story makes me sick to my stomach. Thank God this monster was caught before any children were killed, that we know so far. Can't make everyone happy I guess, either you are proactive and people bitch or it happens and people bitch.
 

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OK, please show me how many such "monsters" are caught each year and how many federal man hours, per potential cannibal caught, are expended. This seems to be yet more justification for federal internet patrols, a really nice job if you can get it.
Its probably computers doing the searching, with humans checking "hits".

Worse than people in many ways, but probably not a manpower drain.
 

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OK, please show me how many such "monsters" are caught each year and how many federal man hours, per potential cannibal caught, are expended. This seems to be yet more justification for federal internet patrols, a really nice job if you can get it.
There are task forces on every law enforcement level going after pedophiles on the internet. I'm sure that's how these idiots were uncovered.
 

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Another good point!

The feds should not have acted until after the law abiding citizen had the chance to actually eat the children...

...and the time to digest them
That is exactly the argumet of NextEra for border jumprers, just leave them be until they actually do something "really" bad. It is definitely easier to sit and patrol the internet than to do many other LEO tasks, but I still question the return on investment of this technique.
 

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A republican, no doubt. I hear they eat children.
 

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The "victim" count for this "monster" stands at zero, the potential victim count is naturally unlimited. This sounds a lot like the yellowcake sting that "saved America from a terrorist plot" that actually never existed until created on the internet by our agents. This is much like the gun control logic, we must get rid of all guns to keep 2% of the population, known to be dangerous yet allowed to walk freely among us, from having "easy access" to guns.
2 people have already been convicted so this is a little more than "yellow cake". Sorry, but again, my priorities are different than yours. You would rather them watch border crossings than catching maniacs like this.
 

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Naw liberals do too but only if they've been fed organic gluten free diets in a free range house.
Ha. I knew it. The hypocrisy of it all....BTW, how does one go about having a free range house? Is it like a motor home, or what?
 

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How many undocumented residents have eaten children? Please post the #'s
Considering that your example "monster" as eaten exactly zero children, you have provided none yet either.

Crime committed by illegal aliens is not rare.

The Federal Bureau of Prisons reports that 26.4 percent of inmates in federal prisons are non-U.S. citizens. Non-citizens are 8.6 percent of the nation’s adult population. However, federal prisons are not representative of prisons generally or local jails.
Immigration and Crime: Assessing a Conflicted Issue | Center for Immigration Studies

Statistical studies regarding illegal aliens and criminal activity are few and far between. But in a 2007 Government Accountability Office study of a sample population of 55,322 illegal aliens, analysts discovered that:

* They were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about 8 arrests per illegal alien. Nearly all had more than one arrest. Thirty-eight percent (about 21,000) had between 2 and 5 arrests, 32 percent (about 18,000) had between 6 and 10 arrests, and 26 percent (about 15,000) had 11 or more arrests. Most of the arrests occurred after 1990.


* They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses, averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien. One arrest incident may include multiple offenses, a fact that explains why there are nearly one and half times more offenses than arrests.

* Almost all of these illegal aliens were arrested for more than 1 offense. Slightly more than half of the 55,322 illegal aliens had between 2 and 10 offenses. About 45 percent of all offenses were drug or immigration offenses. About 15 percent were property-related offenses such as burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, and property damage. About 12 percent were for violent offenses such as murder, robbery, assault, and sex-related crimes. The balance was for such other offenses as traffic violations, including driving under the influence; fraud--including forgery and counterfeiting; weapons violations; and obstruction of justice.
Illegal Aliens and Crime: Statistics not on Obama's side - National public safety | Examiner.com

The numbers are alarming.In Los Angeles, over 95% of arrest warrants issued for the crime of murder are for illegal aliens. At least 83% of arrest warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens. The number climbs to 86% for Albuquerque. The most wanted lists for each of these cities is comprised of at least 75% illegal aliens.
LiveLeak.com - Crime Statistics regarding illegal aliens in America by FBI- quick read (comments)
 
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