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(CNN) -- Marie Mills held her 77-year-old father, who had collapsed outside in a Washington street. She screamed for help.A passerby rushed across the street to bang on the door of a fire station, knowing that firefighters are trained to provide emergency medical help.
But they wouldn't leave the station.
The same thing happened when two more people tried to summon the firefighters for assistance, Mills says.
"We looked across the street at the fire station. There was a firefighter that was actually standing against the fire apparatus," she told CNN affiliate WJLA. "Everybody started trying to wave him over." But the firefighter said he had to be dispatched first.
Maybe it's a requirement in their union contract...Man dies after firefighters won't cross street to help, daughter says - CNN.com
If this is actually what happened......
Emergency Response can't respond without a "proper 911" call????
They can't walk/run across the street????
Maybe it's a requirement in their union contract...
Maybe it's a requirement in their union contract...
You didn't read the article. The union stated otherwise.
I must have missed that requirement to reply to this thread...
I must have missed that requirement to reply to this thread...
I replied to the original post, not the article itself. As the act of replying is not under a precondition, it seems to me all the comments about my reply are just opinion or intolerance of participation. Since this thread is not about my reply how about getting closer to topic now.
I replied to the original post, not the article itself. As the act of replying is not under a precondition, it seems to me all the comments about my reply are just opinion or intolerance of participation. Since this thread is not about my reply how about getting closer to topic now.
In other words you replied before having the facts, just a knee jerk, ignorant response using the respondent's favorite whipping boy, a sort of trolling stupid crap... :roll:
It was an observation on the typical ignorant response such news stories seem to attract. Not intolerance of ignorance, just a helpful hint to engage the brain BEFORE the fingers wander across the keyboard... :2wave:
A friend tried to call 911 for a man who collapsed outside a strip mall. They asked for the address but he didn't know it (like anyone ever does) he told 911 where the strip mall was, on such and such a street just off of the highway and which store he was in front of but they refused to do anything without an address. Another bystander ran inside and got the address from the manager. A total waste of time but that was their procedure. FYI the friend is a rescue worker and deals with 911 all the time but usually it is 911 that calls him.
Never found out what happened to the man who collapsed.
I replied to the original post, not the article itself. As the act of replying is not under a precondition, it seems to me all the comments about my reply are just opinion or intolerance of participation. Since this thread is not about my reply how about getting closer to topic now.
Seems to me that getting into a flame war with another poster over a comment about unions that you find knee jerkingly distasteful, instead of talking about the topic of the thread is what is ignorant here.
Man dies after firefighters won't cross street to help, daughter says - CNN.com
If this is actually what happened......
Emergency Response can't respond without a "proper 911" call????
They can't walk/run across the street????
Maybe it's a requirement in their union contract...[/QUOTE]
Who has to look at a union contract to know whether it's OK to help another human being?
Would you care to fill us in on that?
I guess unquestioned belief in the "article" and it's author as sole source supreme authority is acceptable ignorance and anything or anyone contradicting this 'settled science' is to be attacked or ridiculed in this thread then. Not, in my opinion, a reasoned and tolerant discussion.
Christ seriously?
No you shouldn't always take everything an article says as truth without doubt, but that doesn't mean an acceptable alternative is to just make stuff up and pretend its true. You have to have... you know... other information that contradicts the information put forward in the article, some other kind of source that says something else, something else to back up your statements.
Maybe it's a requirement in their union contract...[/QUOTE]
Who has to look at a union contract to know whether it's OK to help another human being?
Would you care to fill us in on that?
Unions have silly rules. So do government bureaucracies. Either one of these two things was responsible or some firefighters should lose their jobs.
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