Right, but a psychiatrist spent 4-6 years in University studying the topic.
You missed the point.
You too are arguing from a position of ignorance
Yes and do they affirm the things one "sees" in an NDE as being actually real as opposed to a hallucination or dreams?
Since you dont know anything about me or my level of education, you're hardly in a position to comment on it.
Asystole is clinical death. Brain death is biological death. Thats medical science fact! Defibrillators do not change that. They are a tool used to improve chances of resuscitation before brain death occurs.
The average psychiatrist doesnt study NDE's, so they would know nothing about it, just as you know nothing about it
I can comment on your level of education regarding NDE's, and its clear you are highly uneducated
This isnt my field of expertise so im not just gonna knock it. As far as it being proof of an afterlife i remain skeptical though as that would require a soul which is not something i think we have. I think dreams make us think we are astral projecting and it can feel very real just like dreams can feel very real (though mine are usually really disjointed hoo boy).
Nothing wrong with being skeptical
Im not the one claiming NDEs are more than they are or ignoring rational explanations for them.
But you're an expert because you "experienced" it, right? Never mind that "experience" is subjective and the weakest form of evidence with the strongest bias.
Which is why everything should be questioned, even experience.
There are millions of people who have experienced the same.Im not the one claiming NDEs are more than they are or ignoring rational explanations for them.
But you're an expert because you "experienced" it, right? Never mind that "experience" is subjective and the weakest form of evidence with the strongest bias.
You're not questioning it though, you're discounting it based on zero research
There's no research to support it. I question the claims made without supporting evidence to affirm them. Otherwise, it's little more than one's feelings.
Nope. Thats an argumentum ad populum fallacy. It's still subjective and anecdotal. The weakest form of "evidence."
And this is why your opinion cannot be taken seriously. There is tons of research done on NDE's.
iands.org
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
digital.library.unt.edu
digital.library.unt.edu
www.frontiersin.org
Perhaps you should understand what I am saying: there is nothing to support NDEs being real. If someone claims to have a NDE and saw angels, heaven, or whatever, there's nothing to support such assertions or that the objects of an NDE are actually real. I have said NDEs have rational explanations for their cause and that such visions/hallucinations seem real. The proverbial mind playing tricks on you.And this is why your opinion cannot be taken seriously. There is tons of research done on NDE's.
There's even a special research centre devoted to studying the phenomenon:
The International Association for Near-Death Studies (IANDS)
The International Association for Near-Death Studies (IANDS) is a non-profit working to advance global understanding of near-death experiences.
And here are some of the peer-reviewed research papers:
Long-term transformational effects of near-death experiences - PubMed
The results support the notion that NDEs lead to a profound spiritual awakening and a reorientation towards life distinct from changes following LTEs without NDEs.
AWAreness during REsuscitation - II: A multi-center study of consciousness and awareness in cardiac arrest - PubMed
Consciousness. awareness and cognitive processes may occur during CA. The emergence of normal EEG may reflect a resumption of a network-level of cognitive activity, and a biomarker of consciousness, lucidity and RED (authentic "near-death" experiences).
"He should stay in the grave": Cultural Patterns in the Interpretation of Near-Death Experiences in African Traditional Religions
Abstract: A wide-ranging survey of ethnographic, explorer, and missionary literature demonstrates that although historical accounts of near-death experiences (NDEs) are attested in indigenous African societies, they are comparatively rare. Correspondingly, there is also a scarcity of...
“The Sun told me I would be restored to life”: Native American Near- Death Experiences, Shamanism, and Religious Revitalization Movements
This article discusses near-death experiences as a central theme of Native American afterlife beliefs, and Native Americans' response to Christian missionaries. It argues that NDEs and socio-political factors can explain Native American religious revitalization movements and beliefs in general.
Frontiers | Near-death experiences in non-life-threatening events and coma of different etiologies
Background: Near death experiences (NDEs) are increasingly being reported as a clearly identifiable physiological and psychological reality of clinical signi...
Now, before we continue this debate. Will you admit you were wrong when you said there's "no research to support it"??
Because if you cannot admit you were wrong, then I'm done debating with you
No, you said there was no research done on the topic, which is completely false.
Clearly you don't comprehend what I was saying or ate just being obtuse about it. I've already explained ad nauseum at this point and now you're grasping.
LOL......when it comes to this subject you have no idea what you're talking about
Like the one who had what amounts to an hallucination on a medication induced drug trip dhring brain hypoxia. Too funny indeed.LOL......when it comes to this subject you have no idea what you're talking about
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
journals.lww.com
doi.org
If you had any real evidence of an afterlife you would be very famous. But you are not famous.
How would you know? Have you ever died?
Not exactly. Your claim lacks knowledge of my clinical background to make such an assumption.
Millions of people believe in all kinds of nonsense. Magic, Gods, UFO's being visiting aliens, an afterlife.......
Indeed. And some seem to think whatever they saw in that experience were actually real. Yet there remains no evidence to substantiate them. Just claims of seeing or hearing things. Just like when one sees aliens, UFOs, Elvis and such as you pointed out.
