Man claims to have seen the afterlife (1 Viewer)

[Desert Storm]

I thought ALL children, defects and all, were perfect

Where did you read that??

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Where did you read that??

Come on! I know our exchange has been a joke to you, but seriously? You pass yourself off as a Christian and don't believe that God loves all his children, defects and all? I think I just found out by your rebuttal what a fake Christian sounds like.

 

[Revelation]

"Perfect" how? Not all defects are readily apparent. What if said child develops a condition later on, juvenile diabetes as 1 example? We're they born "perfect" or was a "design" flaw already in place?

that's where 'desperate' comes in Gordy. sometimes God is yur only hope and you need a miracle.

i needed one over a year ago, after i saved a loved ones life, and they were in the hospital. a lady from church called and said the Angels will be there tonight.

wow, desperate.

i called the next day to intensive care, and he said that the Angels showed up last nite. he heard them talking and they were around his bed; amazing because he is blind, so God was there.

we prayed and cried to God for days: Desperate


And You’re my only hope
I need a miracle
If I ever needed You it’s right now

Oh God I’m desperate
Down on my knees
Send help from Heaven
Cuz that’s what I need
Redeem this wreckage
Restore my peace
I’m not asking I’m begging
Lord come through for me





This song is actually a prayer/ a desperate cry out to the Lord when you're at the end of your rope. I sang this song from the depths of my soul, with tears and all, and I believe the Lord heard me. My heart has changed toward my husband, and I now have a renewed hope for my marriage and my husband. The Lord hears the fervent effectual prayers of the righteous. 3 months ago (edited) @yahwehisontheway5094

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[Desert Storm]

Come on! I know our exchange has been a joke to you, but seriously? You pass yourself off as a Christian and don't believe that God loves all his children, defects and all? I think I just found out by your rebuttal what a fake Christian sounds like

I'm not a Christian at all. I don't belong to any religion

 

[SoccerCoach]

There is no afterlife just cowards running away from the reality of death. If you experienced anything, it was just a dream/hallucination..

There is and when it reaches out to you it cant be denied. I have had 3 experiences with the afterlife. Its something you must experience yourself. Not just with an NDE but it can touch you in ways that cant be denied. It has saved my life, connected me with parents who died that I never knew, and a brother reached out to me. I have known 2 mediums that were real. One a longtime friend. Our minds are energy and that cant be destroyed. Open your mind it wnnt hurt.

 

[SoccerCoach]

There are rational physiological explanations for NDEs. An experiment can also be performed to validate claims of a NDE.

As a psychologist I can tell you there are no rational explanations for NDEs. Describe the experiment it doesnt exist. NFEs are being studied scientifically and there is mounting evidence that they are real. I have never had one but the afterlife has reached out to me in ways that cant be denied. Have an open mind its a fascinating topic

 

[Michael Cole]

Maybe it isnt.
But that doesnt change the fact its still intelligent creation

Using things known to exist by corporeal beings.

If it takes intelligence to create a watch, therefore much more intelligence to create a watchmaker, imagine how much intelligence is required to create this creator of watchmakers.

 

[SoccerCoach]

Using things known to exist by corporeal beings.

If it takes intelligence to create a watch, therefore much more intelligence to create a watchmaker, imagine how much intelligence is required to create this creator of watchmakers.

Emotions determine how intelligence is applied

 

[Michael Cole]

Emotions determine how intelligence is applied

Which doesn't solve the problem of who created God.

The watchmaker argument is fallacious. We can argue only within the scope of our understanding, and an endless regression of creators is beyond this.

 

[SoccerCoach]

Which doesn't solve the problem of who created God.

The watchmaker argument is fallacious. We can argue only within the scope of our understanding, and an endless regression of creators is beyond this.

Belief or non belief is determined by ones emotional needs. The human brain is hard wired to ponder ideas we cant understand thats how we learn. Its not wrong its just part of human nature.

 

[Michael Cole]

Belief or non belief is determined by ones emotional needs. The human brain is hard wired to ponder ideas we cant understand thats how we learn. Its not wrong its just part of human nature.

Tiptoeing through the tulips this morning?

 

[Gordy327]

As a psychologist I can tell you there are no rational explanations for NDEs.

Physiological processes is not a ratioal explanation?

Describe the experiment it doesnt exist.

Simple. Some claim to experience floating over others or themelves during an NDE event. All that needs to bed one is have a word or phrase written in a loction hidden from the bed point of view, but visible from a higher vantage point. A patient would ot be told about it and if the experience an NDE, they can see the word/phrase and repeat what it is as a means of validating the NDE.

NFEs are being studied scientifically and there is mounting evidence that they are real.

They are "real" in the sense that they are the product of the mind in duress due to trauma, hypoxia, medication indced, ect. Kind of like a hallucination.

I have never had one but the afterlife has reached out to me in ways that cant be denied. Have an open mind its a fascinating topic

WHat ways would those be? I'm open to evidence. Not empty claims.

Belief or non belief is determined by ones emotional needs.

Belief is emotional and people are irrational. Non-belief is rational.

The human brain is hard wired to ponder ideas we cant understand thats how we learn. Its not wrong its just part of human nature.

Yes, we are quite the silly species. We'll come up with quite the stories or imagination to explain things we do not understand.

Emotions determine how intelligence is applied

More like emotions determine how rational or irrational we react.

 

[SoccerCoach]

Yes, we are quite the silly species. We'll come up with quite the stories or imagination to explain things we do not understand.
Thats what atheism is

 

[bomberfox]

I'll grant you that. but when a child is born without any birth defects, then that human is born perfect.
Therefore that particular human is of perfect, intelligent design

I mean they are still born with the potential to choke on food, cant hear or smell as well as other animals etc.

 

[bomberfox]

Yes, we are quite the silly species. We'll come up with quite the stories or imagination to explain things we do not understand.
Thats what atheism is

You guys love to copy others then just replace the wording.

 

[OrphanSlug]

I am impressed this thread is still going. But "seeing the afterlife" is easy to prove, take enough Ketamine or even Scopolamine, and you'll see every afterlife described by every religion.

 

[Gordy327]

Yes, we are quite the silly species. We'll come up with quite the stories or imagination to explain things we do not understand.
Thats what atheism is

Who's making up stories about gods and such to explain things they do not understand, theists or atheists?

There is and when it reaches out to you it cant be denied. I have had 3 experiences with the afterlife. Its something you must experience yourself. Not just with an NDE but it can touch you in ways that cant be denied.

As a "psychologist," surely you know personal experiences are subjective and anecdotal and not actual evidence for anything, right?

It has saved my life, connected me with parents who died that I never knew, and a brother reached out to me. I have known 2 mediums that were real.

Funny how no "medium" has ever been verified to be real.

 

[SoccerCoach]

Who's making up stories about gods and such to explain things they do not understand, theists or atheists?

As a "psychologist," surely you know personal experiences are subjective and anecdotal and not actual evidence for anything, right?

Funny how no "medium" has ever been verified to be real.

Not true I have known 2 that are real.

 

[SoccerCoach]

I am impressed this thread is still going. But "seeing the afterlife" is easy to prove, take enough Ketamine or even Scopolamine, and you'll see every afterlife described by every religion.

The concept intimidates atheists which makes no sense because it isn t about God its simply the natural order of life.

 

[Gordy327]

Not true I have known 2 that are real.

Real, how? Its one thing to have an hallucination and quite another to claim said hallucination is actually a "real" thing.

 

[Gordy327]

The concept intimidates atheists which makes no sense because it isn t about God its simply the natural order of life.

I doubt atheists would find it intimidating. Silly is more like it.

 

[OrphanSlug]

The concept intimidates atheists which makes no sense because it isn t about God its simply the natural order of life.

I do think I've ever known an atheist who is intimidated by understanding the results of taking certain medicines.

 

[Gordy327]

I do think I've ever known an atheist who is intimidated by understanding the results of taking certain medicines.

It's more likely theists who would call medical care a "miracle."

 

[Desert Storm]

Atheists who claim this is all nonsense sure seem to be posting a lot in this thread

 

[Gordy327]

Atheists who claim this is all nonsense sure seem to be posting a lot in this thread

I suppose atheists tend to call out nonsensical BS when it's encountered. Discussion forums are funny like that.