Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". [W:111]

[Mashmont]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". [W:111]

Did he actually take the marbles out of his mouth when he gave it this time or something?

Lou is a professional broadcaster. He's also 83 years old.

 

[Lursa]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

I've debated and shut down all your arguments, and all your criticisms of the Catholic Church. Every single one of them.

You havent addressed them individually at all. And not successfully refuted a single argument of mine.

"Na huh" is not a counter argument. Lying (like saying PP promotes abortion) is not a counter argument. It is a sin tho.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Lursa]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

God forgives sinners, unless of course they reject God and don't want forgiveness. Any belief counter to that is decidedly NOT a Christian one.

Like I wrote...big deal. It's not like it was the Catholic's idea. You dont get credit for actually standing by God's Word when He has explicitly granted it to us.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Mashmont]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

You havent addressed them individually at all. And not successfully refuted a single argument of mine.

"Na huh" is not a counter argument. Lying (like saying PP promotes abortion) is not a counter argument. It is a sin tho.

Go back through the posts. I've debunked every last one of your lies about the greatest organization in the history of the world, the Roman Catholic Church.

So I assume we are done here. All that's left is for to keep recycling and repeating the same lies just like atheist haters do. Let's see how long it takes.

 

[Lursa]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

Nope. There is no coercion to donate. Ever. No guilt. The only lies are coming from you.

Again, watch Abby Johnson's speech. She mentions specifically the quotes PP forced on her.

I have been to Mass. I have grown up with Catholics. It is you who lie. The guilt and lies are common.


And Abby Johnson was fired by PP. She had an ax to grind. Feel free to provide some real sources.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Lovebug]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". [W:111]

Lou Holtz calls Joe Biden 'Catholic in name only' during RNC speech

“One of the important reasons [President Donald Trump] has my trust is because nobody is but a stronger advocate for the unborn than President Trump,” Holtz said. “The Biden-Harris ticket is the most radically pro-abortion campaign in history. They and other politicians are Catholics in name only and abandon innocent lives. President Trump protects those lives. I trust President Trump.”

Holtz led into his line about trust in Trump by citing his time at Notre Dame and the fact that there’s a statue of him at the school.

Holtz' speech was devastatingly effective. The leftwing media is desperately trying to counter the message by immediately trotting out James Martin leftwing so-called priest to slam Holtz. Martin in the past has been highly critical of Trump, but lets Biden slide on the abortion issue. Left-leaning Notre Dame also distanced itself from Holtz, when they should be defending him, or at least commenting that Biden's abortion stance is reprehensible. But they don't. And that is a disgrace. The media is also pushing the meme that Biden a 'devout Catholic', which is an insult to devout Catholics. When someone actively works against the foundational pillar of one's faith, respect for human life, he not only can't be called 'devout', he can't be called 'practicing', either. So Holtz was right on the money when he said Biden and others (say, Pelosi) are Catholics in name only. They should be denied Holy Communion and threatened with ex-communication, IMHO. And unless they publicly repent, they will be judged very severely in the afterlife, IMHO.

'''Judge not''': priest rejects RNC speaker'''s attack on Biden'''s faith

My prayer is for Democrats who support abortion to renounce that belief. I believe it will happen for some.

Those who refuse to wear masks are Christians in name only

 

[Mashmont]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

Like I wrote...big deal. It's not like it was the Catholic's idea. You dont get credit for actually standing by God's Word when He has explicitly granted it to us.

So this is an explicit bible passage you choose to believe while you reject the ones you don't like?

 

[Mashmont]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

I have been to Mass. I have grown up with Catholics. It is you who lie. The guilt and lies are common.


And Abby Johnson was fired by PP. She had an ax to grind. Feel free to provide some real sources.

You just lied again. Abby Johnson resigned. She wasn't fired. Abby Johnson (activist) - Wikipedia

 

[Lursa]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

Go back through the posts. I've debunked every last one of your lies about the greatest organization in the history of the world, the Roman Catholic Church.

So I assume we are done here. All that's left is for to keep recycling and repeating the same lies just like atheist haters do. Let's see how long it takes.

No you havent. All you've done is written 'na huh.' I've been clear on the riches of the Vatican and all you've said is, 'they cant sell a ceiling' :doh I've pointed out the hypocrisy of your piecemeal sins that indicate 'practicing Catholic' or not. I've been clear that your made up sins against sex and homosexuality are not sins at all under God's Word. All you say is, 'yes they are, it's in the Bible.' A bible written by flawed men. God's Word however is indisputable.

You have failed but in your assimilated follower state, I dont believe you are capable of realizing it. I mostly want others to see the horrific repression and lies of the Catholic cult.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Mashmont]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

No you havent. All you've done is written 'na huh.' I've been clear on the riches of the Vatican and all you've said is, 'they cant sell a ceiling' :doh I've pointed out the hypocrisy of your piecemeal sins that indicate 'practicing Catholic' or not. I've been clear that your made up sins against sex and homosexuality are not sins at all under God's Word. All you say is, 'yes they are, it's in the Bible.' A bible written by flawed men. God's Word however is indisputable.

You have failed but in your assimilated follower state, I dont believe you are capable of realizing it. I mostly want others to see the horrific repression and lies of the Catholic cult.

Here we go. That didn't take long. You just recycle the same lies. I'm just enabling you by responding.

 

[year2late]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

I've explained this three times. Practicing Catholics who sin do so mainly with slip-ups. Their sins are perhaps, becoming angry and hurting someone's feelings, or sleeping in and missing Mass, or engaging in a little gossip. These aren't the people doing heinous sins like abortion, murder, armed robbery, etc. Those who do those things aren't even trying. They aren't practicing.

All sins are equal in that that they separate us from God.

We will all be judged when we pass on.

You can proclaim someone is not Catholic all you want....does not make it true.

Catholicism: Excommunication and Other Penalties - dummies

Being excommunicated from the Catholic Church is widely misunderstood: It doesn’t mean that you’re banned from church and stripped of your Catholicism. Rather, excommunication is a strong, remedial penalty meted out with the hope that it’ll wake you up and move you to true repentance — and back into full communion with the faithful. In short, it’s reversible.

 

[Lursa]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

You just lied again. Abby Johnson resigned. She wasn't fired. Abby Johnson (activist) - Wikipedia

Because she was getting fired. She was a misguided bitter woman.

And apparently ONE bitter person is all you have to support your claim? PP has loads of websites and brochures and information. Surely if they promoted abortion...you could show me where? They dont advertise it, do they? :roll:

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Mashmont]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

Because she was getting fired. She was a misguided bitter woman.

And apparently ONE bitter person is all you have to support your claim? PP has loads of websites and brochures and information. Surely if they promoted abortion...you could show me where? They dont advertise it, do they? :roll:

Ouch. Did someone just move the goalposts after getting proven wrong?

 

[Mashmont]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

All sins are equal in that that they separate us from God.

We will all be judged when we pass on.

You can proclaim someone is not Catholic all you want....does not make it true.

Catholicism: Excommunication and Other Penalties - dummies

If people reject Catholic teaching. Voila. They aren't practicing Catholics. Why is this such a surprise to you?

 

[Lursa]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

So this is an explicit bible passage you choose to believe while you reject the ones you don't like?

God's Word is unchanging. You reject several. I named some earlier. There arent even any popes mentioned in the Bible...your cult made them up, arrogantly placing a man between His people and Himself.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Mashmont]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

God's Word is unchanging. You reject several. I named some earlier. There arent even any popes mentioned in the Bible...your cult made them up, arrogantly placing a man between His people and Himself.

What do you have to do with God's Word? You said it was invalid, as the bible was written by mortal men.

 

[Lursa]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

Here we go. That didn't take long. You just recycle the same lies. I'm just enabling you by responding.

The truth doesnt change. I can only write it so many ways.

And you still cannot refute it. :2bow:

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Mashmont]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

The truth doesnt change. I can only write it so many ways.

And you still cannot refute it. :2bow:

You don't believe in the truth. What are you talking about. You believe atheist lies.

 

[Lursa]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

What do you have to do with God's Word? You said it was invalid, as the bible was written by mortal men.

God's Word has never changed, I have nothing to do with it, except to recognize it and accept it into my heart. Peace, compassion, forgiveness, brotherly love.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[year2late]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

If people reject Catholic teaching. Voila. They aren't practicing Catholics. Why is this such a surprise to you?

I am curious, does the Catholic Church accept that Catholic Priests raped children?

 

[Lursa]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

You don't believe in the truth. What are you talking about. You believe atheist lies.

Ah, a retread. You are out of arguments? Well, you havent really argued anything. You just regurgitate your cult's dogma.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Mashmont]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

God's Word has never changed, I have nothing to do with it, except to recognize it and accept it into my heart. Peace, compassion, forgiveness, brotherly love.

What a shame you don't believe in God's word. Especially in your hatred of Catholics.

 

[Lursa]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

Ouch. Did someone just move the goalposts after getting proven wrong?

She was getting fired. Not much difference there. And where are your other sources? I asked for more than the biased word of a bitter ex-employee.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Mashmont]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

Ah, a retread. You are out of arguments? Well, you havent really argued anything. You just regurgitate your cult's dogma.

Ah a retread. Preaching hatred of Catholic once again. What was it you say about brotherly love?

 

[Mashmont]

Re: Lou Holtz' Speech: "Biden and Others Who Support Abortion Are Catholics In Name Only". Spot On

She was getting fired. Not much difference there. And where are your other sources? I asked for more than the biased word of a bitter ex-employee.

I already provided a neutral source. lol. Now you want more sources while you provide NONE.