Live coverage of Kavanaugh Hearing with new witnesses

[American]

Don't hold back your are allowed to cry like Kavanaugh too.

You aren't worth it.

 

[Mr Person]

Do not believe you have read hundreds of criminal trial transcripts, nor read even 1.

There is NO allegation of sex, so your example is irrelevant to anything.

Your message is false. He repeatedly said he is agreeable to whatever the Committee does and specifically in regards to if they call for another FBI report. He was not evasive in the slightest. His response was immediate and the same. The ONLY person who refused and still refuses to participate in investigations is Dr. Ford - and you know it too.

You know NOTHING about criminal law. Even the most simple basics.

For a criminal case:

1. It MUST be proven a crime was committed.
2. It MUST be proven the accused committed it.

Defense can challenge both. That you don't know that most simple of all basics means your claim is not believable in any way.

Well, you had your chance.

Attack others with stupid dishonesty. Have a.....day

:2wave:

 

[Chomsky]

I hope you understand that the women to his left (in the pic) are his wife, friend, and mother in that order holding back tears...

But hey, don't let your seething partisan hate trying to mischaracterize emotions for political gain get in the way of fact.

Not to detract from your statement, but there were audience tears during Dr. Ford's testimony too. This was just a sad experience all-around. I think we all collectively feel deflated.

My hope is this can be an inflection point, but I thought that just recently during John McCain's funeral too.

 

[Acadia]

Interesting. WaPo KNOWS one of them is lying. Will WaPo say who? Of course not because truth does not matter to the WaPo. Otherwise they'd call one of the 2 out, wouldn't they?

I thought it delightful that DiFi found herself on the hot seat for the leaking. She didn't even have the integrity to take responsibility for Ford's express desire to remain anonymous to be honored. She pawned it off and it was pathetic.

eta: "I didn't ask my staff if they leaked it...no...wait...the person whispering in my ear tells me I DID ask...Yes, I did indeed"

omg...

 

[joko104]

They hired a woman to question her. How is that showing her the "utmost respect"?

Her lawyers and the Democrats in Congress - and according to her lawyer Dr. Ford - all were ranting against Republican men questioning her. Now they rant that their demands were complied with.

 

[joko104]

Well, you had your chance.

Attack others with stupid dishonesty. Have a.....day

:2wave:

Your claims about law are absurd. Obviously you recognize you can not defend your prior statement.

 

[Cassandra]

he doesn't have a right to be falsely accused of sexual assault either but that hasn't stopped the liberal left from dragging his name through the mud.
he has a right to be pissed off any guy would be.

it is an attack on him and his family. and she still didn't corroborate her story with anything other than i say so.
when questioned as to why the 3 witnesses she mentioned say it didn't happen she has no clue.

It certainly is not an "attack". Neither you nor I will ever know the truth. K is in the public sphere, now. This is what he signed up for- intense scrutiny. He can be "mad" at his accuser if he wants. Nothing will be proved. He will probably be made a S.C.J. even though he tipped his hand- he is an extreme partisan, nearly unhinged when things don't go his way.

 

[JasperL]

As a side note, I've had friends that clearly blacked out claim they didn't blacked out. They didn't have any holes in their memory, they remembered 100% of the things they remembered.

It's a continuum. The drunker you are the more you'll have memory gaps and the less reliable your memory will be. Hence the next morning afternoon's group rehash where you all try and piece together everything that happened...and the people that drank the least do the best job of filling in the gaps. (Not based on any personal experience of course.)

Yeah, that's obviously all true. And just in general, we forget things, so to claim you remembered everything after a night of heavy drinking is just more gaslighting to anyone who's been really drunk. That's not a "blackout" but your memory while drunk is...imperfect, hazy. Yeah, the band was good, but not sure what songs they played! Etc. He refers to TWO such incidents in his yearbook - "who won anyway?" Obviously a reference to people getting drunk.

 

[trixare4kids]

That is a bald faced lie that McPurjery Kavanaugh kept pushing and you are perpetuating. They said they don't remember... they didn't say it didn't happen.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-letter-836913

Quotes from the article:

"In an email to the Senate Judiciary Committee sent Saturday evening and obtained by POLITICO, Leland Keyser said she does not know Kavanaugh or remember being at a party with him. The committee believed Keyser was one of the unnamed people referred to in a Washington Post story whom Ford remembered attending the high school party. Ford told the Post that she remembered Keyser being at the party."

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Oh please that tactic is getting old. It's customary to open a new investigation when new evidence comes to light especially when it comes to a position such as SCJ. Give it a rest. It's getting dumb and redundant.

Well considering no evidence at all has come to light I fully agree

 

[joko104]

I'm shattered to my core.

:roll:

I do hope you realize I can respond with "do not care if random internet person claims not to believe me for his/her political purposes".






Either you're trying to drag me down into a rabbit hole of derp or you actually do not understand that "There is NO allegation of sex" is not a rejoinder to what I said in its context.





I'm well aware that you reject everything she says. I'm well aware that you are pretending that people not remembering a party and not remembering being told about an assault means it did not in fact happen directly, rather than being circumstantial credibility evidence. I'm well aware that you think Ford did not participate investigations ignoring that polygraph test others have talked about. And, I'm well aware that you think refusing to say "yes" or "no" to repeated questions about whether he'd agree to the FBI continuing investigation is an "immediate and the same" response.

I get it.

Repeating yourself at me and attacking me won't do anything substantive. I haven't made up my mind about the substantive charges. The only thing I've made my mind up about is that the people who want to defend Kavanaugh did so as predicted, and the people who assumed guilt did the same.

:shrug:

You gave the example of "I did not have sex with her and it wasn't rape if I did" - when that has no relevancy to this whatsoever.

A lawyer arguing "my client did not go into the bedroom with her, but even if he had by her own statements it was not sexual assault" is 100% legitimate.

That is obvious. Now you try to make it like you are being picked on for pointing out what you wrote makes no sense and contradicts your claimed expertise as nonsense.

 

[Mr Person]

Your claims about law are absurd. Obviously you recognize you can not defend your prior statement.

ok joko

:coffeepap

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Yeah, that's obviously all true. And just in general, we forget things, so to claim you remembered everything after a night of heavy drinking is just more gaslighting to anyone who's been really drunk. That's not a "blackout" but your memory while drunk is...imperfect, hazy. Yeah, the band was good, but not sure what songs they played! Etc. He refers to TWO such incidents in his yearbook - "who won anyway?" Obviously a reference to people getting drunk.

Your subjective opinion is irrelevant

 

[Chomsky]

I am watching some clips of Kavanaugh's reactions, and I don't like him. First, he only went on Fox News and talked to Trumpers. Secondly, these hearings are in front of all of America, and he is totally playing into the Trump, right wing, style of talking points on this, and acting like he is being victimized by a conspiracy. His anger doesn't connect with me. He doesn't have any concern for Ford, and she seems believable. He doesn't say anything about rape, sexual assault, etc. He is only concerned for his own butt, and acts like he is entitled to the supreme court.

I agree. But just like Trump, he was playing to Trump's base because they hold the power. You are right, in that you & I don't matter to them. Which is an outrageous statement to make about an SC judge.

 

[JackA]

The only way Kavanaugh gets confirmed is if all Republican senators, save one at most, decide that an accomplished woman has mistaken for 36 years the identities of both men who assaulted her even though she knew them.

He'll probably be confirmed.

 

[bubbabgone]

I took off today to watch this. How sick is that?

My reactions ... as if anyone cares but isn't that what we're here for?

Blasey's opening remarks were very good and persuasive.
What followed was a tad troubling and not very good for her.
At times she came off as kind of flaky for a 50+ year old.
What does "exculpatory" mean? Good grief.
I think she might have problems.

As for Kavanaugh ... yikes ... he had an AA12 aimed right at the Feinstein gang.
Very effective.
But after the first 2 sessions they must've told him to dial it back cuz he did.
And he definitely didn't directly respond to the Dems questions on-point as soon as he should have.

On balance it was at least a tie if not a + for Kavanaugh because he both defended himself and called out the Democratics.

 

[justabubba]

having the three other people who aren't a party saying it didn't happen is a major kick in the crotch for her claims.

one of those three being mark judge ... the fellow the republicans want to keep hidden from any questioning

the wingman's reluctance to come out of hiding to defend his buddy kavanaugh is another such kick in the nuts

 

[joko104]

I am pretty p/off how badly the Senate Democrats made our country look today. Truly a disgrace the way they attempted to smear such a distinguished Kavanaugh, who up until this last week, had nothing less than an impeccable resume. I am wondering what they will try to do next to stop the vote. I put nothing past them.

... I was happy to see the Republicans keep their word and show the utmost respect for Mrs. Ford. Don't anyone EVER try to tell me that they don't respect women again.

And the Democrats showed little to no respect for Justice Kavanaugh, though the KNOWN human right presumption of innocence what his. We saw the Democratic Party's hatred of human rights that get in their way today, didn't we?

THE PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE is one of THE most core human rights recognized universally, not just in the USA. The Democratic Party is openly spitting on that fundamental human right.

 

[Chomsky]

Yeah, that's obviously all true. And just in general, we forget things, so to claim you remembered everything after a night of heavy drinking is just more gaslighting to anyone who's been really drunk. That's not a "blackout" but your memory while drunk is...imperfect, hazy. Yeah, the band was good, but not sure what songs they played! Etc. He refers to TWO such incidents in his yearbook - "who won anyway?" Obviously a reference to people getting drunk.

"There was a band? Really?"

:2razz:

 

[EnigmaO01]

hahhahahhaha WHAT EVIDENCE?

O.K. evidence wasn't the word I wanted. It was allegation.

 

[polgara]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brett-kavanaugh-foreclosure-accuser-parents/

Greetings, Geoist. :2wave:

Very happy to know that what I had read somewhere else was factual! Thanks for the link! :thumbs:

 

[EnigmaO01]

I hope you understand that the women to his left (in the pic) are his wife, friend, and mother in that order holding back tears...

But hey, don't let your seething partisan hate trying to mischaracterize emotions for political gain get in the way of fact.

Nobody's crying in that photo. They are sneering except for his wife that looks sad. Maybe she knows more than anyone else that there is probably some truth to the allegations?

 

[ludin]

If you don't recognize his lies there is no hope for you...

So you can't point out what lies he told got it that is exactly what we thought and frankly there
is no point in responding to you anymore.

He lied

what did he lies about please be specific.

if you don't know what the lies where that is on you.

pathetic. you made an accusation you can't support so you don't have an accusation.
thanks.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

The only way Kavanaugh gets confirmed is if all Republican senators, save one at most, decide that an accomplished woman has mistaken for 36 years the identities of both men who assaulted her even though she knew them.


He'll probably be confirmed.

Actually she’s testified she didn’t really know him at all, and there is zero, and I mean zero documented evidence she named Brett Kavanaugh as an attacker before his nomination. Her husband cannot be trusted, what’s he gonna say “don’t believe my wife at all” ? Yeah ok

 

[Taylor]

I took off today to watch this. How sick is that?

I'm very curious to see the nielson ratings on this.